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Thunak
05-05-2004, 09:07 AM
This week's update focuses on sinking ships. Silent Hunter III's damage system relies on the detailed modelling of ships and physics: destructible internal structures and equipment influence the behaviour of damaged ships and how they sink. For example, a vessel hit in the bow will go down bow first; a hit to the ammo store will set off multiple secondary explosions.


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<td>http://www.silent-hunteriii.com/ss/capsized_merchant_comp_s_s.jpg (http://www.silent-hunteriii.com/uk/gallery_screens.php)</td>
<td>http://www.silent-hunteriii.com/ss/tanker_broken_back_comp_s.jpg (http://www.silent-hunteriii.com/uk/gallery_screens.php)</td>
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View the screenshots (http://www.silent-hunteriii.com/uk/gallery_screens.php)

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Edit: bad link http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

[This message was edited by Thunak on Wed May 05 2004 at 09:32 AM.]

Thunak
05-05-2004, 09:07 AM
This week's update focuses on sinking ships. Silent Hunter III's damage system relies on the detailed modelling of ships and physics: destructible internal structures and equipment influence the behaviour of damaged ships and how they sink. For example, a vessel hit in the bow will go down bow first; a hit to the ammo store will set off multiple secondary explosions.


<div align="center"><table border="0" align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="5">
<tr>
<td>http://www.silent-hunteriii.com/ss/capsized_merchant_comp_s_s.jpg (http://www.silent-hunteriii.com/uk/gallery_screens.php)</td>
<td>http://www.silent-hunteriii.com/ss/tanker_broken_back_comp_s.jpg (http://www.silent-hunteriii.com/uk/gallery_screens.php)</td>
</tr>
</table>

View the screenshots (http://www.silent-hunteriii.com/uk/gallery_screens.php)

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Edit: bad link http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

[This message was edited by Thunak on Wed May 05 2004 at 09:32 AM.]

Willey
05-05-2004, 09:24 AM
Great stuff! Really amazing.....

I love this one (the deck gun http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif):

http://www.silent-hunteriii.com/ss/setting_by_the_stern_comp.jpg

PS: Would be good if you wrote the date above the screens when they got added.

Kejotikk
05-05-2004, 10:15 AM
Wohoo! Finally you can break the back of a ship again which haven't been in a subsim since the days of AOD! This game is starting to look better and better.

radsov
05-05-2004, 10:18 AM
These are looking great. Breaking into more than one piece is looking good to. I wonder if we submerged under the surface as it went down the two parts might drift apart as they go down ? Will Gun turrets fall off if a battleship turns over before sinking, that would be a really nice effect for those that like to watch them go down from a 3rd person perspective.

alarmer
05-05-2004, 12:11 PM
Really great stuff develpment team!!

I think too few companies understand now days how important stuff like weekly updates and screen shots can be!

Keep it up, this SHIII is starting to look really great.

ps. My favorite was the tankers back bone crunching, havent seen that in a while http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

ulfr1066
05-05-2004, 01:21 PM
Excellent damage models! It has been a while since a sim bothered to come up with such detailed damage models and never have they been displayed with such near photorealism!

SailorSteve
05-05-2004, 05:18 PM
I think I'm falling in love.

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Drym
05-05-2004, 05:40 PM
Looks amazing! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Will there be (burning) oilslicks I wonder?

Shan_Hackett
05-05-2004, 05:53 PM
Oilslicks, is a bit of a Hollywood myth.

Most Merchant vessels, were "Coal" powered, and the oli lubricants for the engine(s) were sealed, and usualy in an internal compartment.

With exception, of course to tankers...

On the other hand, warships, were primarily diesel powered, but again, destroyers were thin skinned (no additional armor plating on hull) and when struck by torpedos, the damage inflicted, was usualy fatal, and in most recorded incidents, the vessels in question, often sank within 5 minutes, only leaving flailing survivors, in a debris field of floatable materials.

Drym
05-05-2004, 06:14 PM
You are correct; it shouldn't be overdone or it will be "Hollywood" as you say.

You are also correct in that tankers would release slicks as would other oil fired ships. There are numerous WW2 photos of sailors being rescued covered with oil. There are also numerous accounts of sailors being burned alive by flaming oil.

And yes, a debris field of flotsam and jetsam would also be nice http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

robsalguz
05-05-2004, 06:21 PM
Yes! this look great! I am looking forward to see amazing and more realisting sinkings.

Also I agree with the tin can destroyers. They were not heavy armored as they were sacrifying armor for speed and maneubrability.

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CB..
05-05-2004, 07:27 PM
http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/11.gif now were talking ..this one thing in itself (ie the differing modes of damage and sinkings) makes even sinking a lone merchant an interesting event....makes a world of difference the odd dynamic in game calculation..makes targeting the topredos doubly interesting as well ..worth the time to aim for different parts of the ships..great stuff worth it's weight in gold..love the slowly expanding impression of how the sky and weather will look as well..that's important as we'll sure be spending a lot of time looking at that and not much else!!! no seriously tho nothing beats a nicely modeled sunset in a game..looks nice..

SailorSteve
05-05-2004, 09:34 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Shan_Hackett:
Oilslicks, is a bit of a Hollywood myth.

Most Merchant vessels, were "Coal" powered, and the oli lubricants for the engine(s) were sealed, and usualy in an internal compartment.

With exception, of course to tankers...

On the other hand, warships, were primarily diesel powered, but again, destroyers were thin skinned (no additional armor plating on hull) and when struck by torpedos, the damage inflicted, was usualy fatal, and in most recorded incidents, the vessels in question, often sank within 5 minutes, only leaving flailing survivors, in a debris field of floatable materials.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Not true. Some merchants were still coal powered, but all the hundreds of purpose-built ships, the liberties and victories, were oil-fired.

The only large warships to be diesel powered were the three Deutchland class armored cruisers-the so-called "pocket battleships". All the rest were driven by oil-fired steam turbines. When U-81 torpedoed and sank Ark Royal she escaped the pursuing escorts by running under the burning oil.

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Always keep you clothes and your weapons where you can find them in the dark.

Shan_Hackett
05-06-2004, 04:33 AM
Purpose built "Liberties" and "Victories" weren't in general circulation until late in the war. late '43/44 - unable to recall accurately. While the U-Boats/ surface raiders, and to a limited exstent aircraft, inflicted massive tolls on Merchant shipping. Tenders, sloops, and a whole miriad of pre 1920's vessels were still sailing well into 1944.

While i was incorrect on the Oli-fire burners, and diesels, the fact does not change, that oil slicks were not common place. Not to say slicks didnt accure, just not as often as "Popular" belief would otherwise suggest.
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Shan_Hackett
05-06-2004, 05:00 AM
Ammendment to Liberty ships.

The 1st Liberties were laid down in September 1941 - Completed March 1942 - delivered December 1942. But that only constitutes only a handful of vessels deployed into active service. Most were laid down January 1942 through January 1945.
With dibs and drabs being completed and delivered in the same manner.

Kapitan_Nereus
05-06-2004, 06:25 AM
So very long since ships broke apart http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
AT LAST!!! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

hey, the shot of the capsized ship, look at the hull midships, is that visable external damage!!?!?!?! :O

I'm very close to pre-ordering this, lol
Once the words, "true (AOD style) Dynamic Campaign" appear officially, i'm sold http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif lol

"The Hunt is on..."

jagtigermk2
05-06-2004, 06:55 AM
All we need now are the ships crew members http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

arzaal
05-07-2004, 02:35 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SailorSteve:
I think I'm falling in love.
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Me too http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
This look so good, it's like a dream coming to life for me. I mean I've been dreamin of submarines since I was a child, and this is the most realistic things I have seen so far. When can we drive the Bismark too? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

RHYLASS
05-07-2004, 08:45 AM
Hey!
Is that a subsim or what? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/53.gif
It just looks that way!
Congrats, I love it.

Cheers
Dietger

Revolver Held
05-08-2004, 08:31 AM
O yeah Great