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Eat_My_Shortz
08-06-2004, 11:11 AM
Is anyone else blown away by this new content?
http://www.mystrevelation.com/

Nobody seems to have noticed!
Theres a whole lot of cool new stuff. If you solve the 3 puzzles you can even watch 3 making-of videos!

And you get to hear the 4 major characters talk.

Also check out www.mysterium.ch (http://www.mysterium.ch) - they have screenshots of the demo.

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To own POTS. That is the difference between knowing the path... and walking the path.

Eat_My_Shortz
08-06-2004, 11:11 AM
Is anyone else blown away by this new content?
http://www.mystrevelation.com/

Nobody seems to have noticed!
Theres a whole lot of cool new stuff. If you solve the 3 puzzles you can even watch 3 making-of videos!

And you get to hear the 4 major characters talk.

Also check out www.mysterium.ch (http://www.mysterium.ch) - they have screenshots of the demo.

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To own POTS. That is the difference between knowing the path... and walking the path.

LaReh
08-06-2004, 11:32 AM
Great website with abundant content. People who want to avoid all spoilage are discouraged from perusing it, but for maniacs like me who want to see EVERYTHING.....it's a winner!
Great job Ubi! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/11.gif

Srikandi
08-06-2004, 04:06 PM
Yeah, an excellent site -- I got about an hour of entertainment out of it, which isn't bad for free http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

There's a thread in the Spoilers section, for anybody who wants to actually discuss content http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Sri's Relto (http://members.cox.net/srikandi/Uru/)

[This message was edited by Srikandi on Fri August 06 2004 at 03:19 PM.]

D-ir
08-06-2004, 05:25 PM
I just finished exploring the site and I would have pre-ordered "MYST IV, Revelation" already like I did "Path of the Shell" except for one concern: I don't want to be penalized for my pre-order by missing the opportunity to buy the "Collector Edition" (http://shop.ubi.com/Prod_ExtDesc.asp?catalogid=132&id=20) like the one offered in the U.K. and which includes a nifty set of MYST Playcards:

Myst IV: Revelation Collector
PC
âŁ34.99
available : 30/09/2004

Summary
Myst IV: Revelation Collector includes:
-Original Game soundtracks
-Making Of
-a set of Myst Playcards

http://shop.ubi.com/prod/Packs/imgs_UK/Normal/myst4collector.jpg

Is the U.S. Version complete, including the MYST Playcards?

Eat_My_Shortz
08-06-2004, 08:56 PM
Yeah I think I might go for the collectors' edition. Love that soundtrack, and making of.
Whats a play card?

Sri - oops yeah probly should have checked the spoiler section first. Although this thread doesnt really have any spoilers, only links to them.

If you wanna discuss the website, do it on the spoiler section!

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Ni Cahlas the Young
08-07-2004, 03:03 AM
Woooooooooooooooow!!!
That is ONE hell of a preview. Imagine how big this game's going to be if this is only a small peek into it. Man, this is great.

Mysthints
08-07-2004, 06:17 AM
Ain't it though? I probably got 'bout an hour or so out of it too. Makes me drool for the demo http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif, which, by the way will be released at Gamespot on Monday for PC (I hope a bunch of sites mirror that, REALLY quick).

Eat_My_Shortz
08-07-2004, 06:52 AM
I feel torn. I'm planning not to get the demo! Because I want the game to "feel" brand new when I get it!

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monsieurdavid
08-07-2004, 09:24 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> The past two installments, Myst III: Exile and Uru: Ages Beyond Myst, have sold only about 450,000 copies combined. Criticized for being too slow paced and for having puzzles that were too hard, the franchise lost out to the heart-pumping action and 3D graphics served up by competitors. The creators of Myst IV hope to change that with a faster-paced, more immersive game. --Time Magazine <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeesha says: "Dad took me to a really neat place today; it's called Serenia."

Well, check out Haven, 'cause "man, it is hot!" (or at least that's what I've read...) http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Okay, I'm over quarrelling with the introduction of "modern" usage in Revelation (though I'm a little confused about Atrus, who is still using words like "snare"...), but I'm not excited about the prospect of the puzzles becoming simpler, if that turns out to be the case.

Coronagold
08-07-2004, 10:50 AM
Yeesha -"Oh my Go-od! Gag me with a spoon! As if!"

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/sargem/BadBoy_sig.jpg

laloona
08-07-2004, 05:24 PM
Hi y'all,

the website is really great, I love that kind of sites http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

The first puzzle you see in the demo is the puzzle Jack Wall tried to solve at the photo with Kathie and Mary http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Greetings,

laloona

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Eat_My_Shortz
08-07-2004, 06:37 PM
Heh - I was waiting for someone to complain about "neat". Ah well I'm sure it'll be cool!
And I'm glad Atrus retains his language.

Do you think they'll say "DUH-nee" (Myst/Riven/Exile) or "De-NEE" (Uru)?

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Khatie_
08-10-2004, 02:10 PM
You don't think a ten year old would say "neat"?

As for the Collector's Edition, there will NOT be one in the US. Europe will have one, and it's possible (POSSIBLE) that Canadian stores will have a small supply from Europe, so if any Canadian fans find them they could send them to US friends, but I repeat, there will not be a US Collector's Edition of Revelation at this time.

Thanks. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

http://uru.ubi.com/us/images/bnr003.gif (http://store.ubi.com/item.jsp?item=008888682028&usitem=008888681090)

ArienMalfoy
08-11-2004, 04:05 AM
I love the new site! I especially like the little bios of each of the characters (and I'd always thought that Achenar was the younger brother for some reason).

Is it just me, or does it seem like the Achenar of Revelation will be quite a bit more intelligent and "with it" than the Achenar of the original Myst, who didn't seem to be much more than a drooling psychopath?

JustBrett
08-11-2004, 04:57 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Khatie_:
You don't think a ten year old would say "neat"?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

A ten-year-old raised in 1820's New Mexico, far from any existing anglo civilization? The usage does seem a little out of place and time.

But, I'm less concerned with a modern usage that at least sounds natural than with a perfectly good usage that sounds very unnatural. I'm referring to Atrus's letter where he states that he has been "strangely mute" about the events of Myst. It sounds very awkward, since people don't normally call their own behavior "strange". This phrase would be fine as a bit of narrative exposition or dialog by someone speaking about Atrus, but it sounds odd coming out of his own mouth. I would expect him to say simply "I have remained mute."

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jaffarine
08-11-2004, 07:31 AM
If he doesn't understand why he has not been talking about it he might call his own behaviour strange.

ArienMalfoy
08-11-2004, 10:12 AM
How do we know exactly what time period all these games take place in? I always thought they were supposed to take place in "anytime".

JustBrett
08-11-2004, 10:42 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ArienMalfoy:
How do we know exactly what time period all these games take place in? I always thought they were supposed to take place in "anytime".<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
No, there is an established timeline, based on D'ni historical information provided by Cyan outside of the games. See the D'ni Timeline (http://www.dpwr.net/archive.php?showarticle=310) at the D'ni Pedia for more information. Exile takes place in 1816, and Revelation takes place 10 years later, in 1826.

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ArienMalfoy
08-11-2004, 11:41 AM
But in light of this:

"Please note that many of these dates are based on speculation and inferrence, and should not be taken as final unless officially backed by Cyan's timeline as well."

Where did they get those dates from? I couldn't find anything on Cyan's official site to back this information up.

Please know that I'm not questioning your information. I've just always had a love of history, genealogy, and timelines, and so I want to know the source of the info and know that it is indeed "canon".

_ Paula _
08-11-2004, 12:12 PM
Alahmnat, the poster of the D'ni Timeline, is as well versed in D'ni history and lore as anyone I know, barring information from Rand himself. He strives to be as accurate as possible and works closely with Cyan to keep his web site to this end.

When Uru first launched, there was a web site that held all sorts of history and information about D'ni. I've dug around and found this page (http://www.drcsite.org/dniEssentials.shtml) which was part of the DRC website.

There is some information here, but not to the extent of the timeline provided by Alahmnat. I would hazzard a guess that he felt the caveat provided by him in his timeline was necessary because we have seen Cyan update information (such as David Wingrove's description of the location of the cleft leading everyone to believe it was somewhere in the Middle East and then Uru comes along with the cleft in the New Mexican desert). These discrepancies between what was written in the books and what Cyan says is so is a topic of much heated debate among those who are deep into D'ni lore and history. But it seems that Cyan holds the "last word" regardless of what was previously written.

I'm pretty sure that the information you'll find posted on Alahmnat's web site will be as accurate as any of this kind of information can be...and he updates his site all the time.

Paula (Pa'lua in Cavern)
"I'm confused.......no wait, maybe I'm not"

ArienMalfoy
08-11-2004, 12:53 PM
I expect you're right about Alahmnat, Paula. I've spoken with him for years on Myst-related message boards and he's got to be one of THE most knowledgeable people I've ever met regarding all things Myst. I don't doubt his data so much as I just want to check out the sources for myself (not to verify them, but only to gain more info). If Al says the dates are so, then I'm more than happy with that. I'd just love to have even more detailed info.

Thanks to everyone who has pointed me in the right direction! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

JustBrett
08-11-2004, 05:00 PM
Chalk up another loss to the unfortunate nature of the Web. The original timeline info, with the dates of holidays and other dates of historical significance, was on the old Rivenguild site, which is now long gone. IIRC, I think some of it may have come from the Myst calendars that were published by Cyan back in the mid 90s. I'm sure there also used to be a timeline on the Cyan site back around the time when Riven was released.

I don't have a copy of those original timelines, and I can't seem to find one archived anywhere on the Web, so I don't know how many dates were interpolated based on info in the books and games. The books contain a lot of indirect date info in the form of the ages of the characters at various points, etc. The various journals in Riven and Exile also contain dates, but the years don't seem to correspond to either the D'ni year or the surface year.

Hopefully Al will notice this topic and clarify the matter. Or, you could just send him a PT and ask for more info.

Edit: I found the timeline on the Cyan site! It's at http://www.riven.com/dni_time.html#timeline. It's pretty brief, but it does give the dates of a couple of events that tie it to events in the BoA and BoT. However, those dates are only given as D'ni dates. I don't know how the years were converted to surface years.


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