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fordfan25
05-03-2004, 06:07 PM
if you were a fully trained pilot in ww2 wich fighter would you prefere to fly and why?

fordfan25
05-03-2004, 06:07 PM
if you were a fully trained pilot in ww2 wich fighter would you prefere to fly and why?

VW-IceFire
05-03-2004, 06:11 PM
Spitfire or Tempest http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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fordfan25
05-03-2004, 06:13 PM
hmmmm i thought those were german birds http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/mockface.gif

BSS_Vidar
05-03-2004, 06:52 PM
F6F-5 Hellcat: Speed, climb rate, agility, and with the addition of a 20mm cannon in both inboard gun ports. Piece through superior firepower. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

But I still luv my 'sair. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/11.gif

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huggy87
05-03-2004, 07:04 PM
The hellcat. It is a very forgivable and tough plane. I had an enjoyable dinner with a hellcat pilot recently. Probably not too many of them left in the world.

SkyChimp
05-03-2004, 07:24 PM
F4U-4

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fordfan25
05-03-2004, 07:28 PM
was the corsair or hellcat a better turner than the stang or p40? i ask becouse alot of pepole are talking about them and i dont know very much about them.

ImpStarDuece
05-03-2004, 07:41 PM
P-38L-10-LO

Hydraulically operated alierons, dive flaps, 4x .50cal and 1x 20mm 440mph top speed. 2,4 second 360 degree roll above 300 mph.

This baby could out climb, out dive, out turn almost anything in the Pacific. It sould carry 4000lbs of bombs, ten rockets or fly for over 10 hours with drop tanks.

Give me one!

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Cpt.Confidence
05-03-2004, 07:53 PM
Curtiss Hawk 81-A3, with the AVG, December 1941, CBI theatre.

TAGERT.
05-03-2004, 08:09 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by fordfan25:
if you were a fully trained pilot in ww2 wich fighter would you prefere to fly and why?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Fully Trained? Well in that case I would like to have flown the cargo planes that picked up the womean pilots who use to transport the new fighters comming off the assembly line and return them for another run... Im sure there could would have been a few cases where the weather would have turned bad and we would have been forced to spend the night somewhere... Then I could talk them into dinner and maybe a bible study... or something

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huggy87
05-03-2004, 08:11 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by TAGERT.:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by fordfan25:
if you were a fully trained pilot in ww2 wich fighter would you prefere to fly and why?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Fully Trained? Well in that case I would like to have flown the cargo planes that picked up the womean pilots who use to transport the new fighters comming off the assembly line and return them for another run... Im sure there could would have been a few cases where the weather would have turned bad and we would have been forced to spend the night somewhere... Then I could talk them into dinner and maybe a bible study... or something

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Lol. Those poor lonely women at the factories with their husbands and boyfriends 1000s of miles away. You are a brave man.

TAGERT.
05-03-2004, 08:16 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by huggy87:
Lol. Those poor lonely women at the factories with their husbands and boyfriends 1000s of miles away. You are a brave man.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Well in those dark times Im sure they would have apriciated a late night bible study.. or something http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

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fordfan25
05-03-2004, 08:54 PM
lol

heywooood
05-03-2004, 09:44 PM
Yeah .. the "or something" would have definitely involved "missionary" work. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

WUAF_Badsight
05-03-2004, 09:49 PM
LMAO has this gone south

F6F-5 .......... speed & turning & cannon ........ the perfect combo

heywooood
05-03-2004, 10:01 PM
oh wait - there's a topic?

The Corsair first and foremost.

The P40 in China second

And the Mighty JUG for ground pounding baby.

ElAurens
05-03-2004, 10:33 PM
I guess I'll have to qualify it.

USAAF: P40

USN: Corsair

And to play devil's advocate:

IJAAF: Ki 61 II

IJN: A5N

And if we are excluding fighter types:

Allied: PBY

IJN: Emily
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NegativeGee
05-04-2004, 05:52 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by heywooood:
Yeah .. the "or something" would have definitely involved "missionary" work. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Be careful what position you take with Tagert http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/59.gif

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tigerroach
05-04-2004, 06:59 AM
Hellcat! I'd like mine with the heated seat and CD changer please. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

If that doesn't work out, a Corsair would be second choice.

fordfan25
05-04-2004, 11:39 AM
and a pair of J.L subs with a 1000w amp to.gotta have the bump in the trunk

Bewolf
05-04-2004, 11:46 AM
P-38 or Corsair.

Man, in 43 servers the p-38 is so uber against Zeros.

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They'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

j_a_l
05-04-2004, 11:58 AM
none. I don't even know how the cockpit of those already done in il2 look like.
I bought il2/sturmovick first for mig, yak, il, then me etc, and next ki and cie .. not for some fancy trucks.

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necrobaron
05-04-2004, 12:14 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by j_a_l:
none. I don't even know how the cockpit of those already done in il2 look like.
I bought il2/sturmovick first for mig, yak, il, then me etc, and next ki and cie .. not for some fancy trucks.

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Wha.....? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

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flyingbullseye
05-04-2004, 02:06 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by fordfan25:
was the corsair or hellcat a better turner than the stang or p40? i ask becouse alot of pepole are talking about them and i dont know very much about them.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

The hellcat was a better turner than all of them, the 51 was better at higher altitudes than the F4U and reverse at lower altitudes while better at any altitude at higher speeds, and better than the P-40 though not by very much(mostly in that case depended on the pilot). The stang was dead if the it tried to do a continous turn because of its wing configuration while the other three had a better time at it.

JG7_Rall
05-04-2004, 02:43 PM
Well...I'd like to think I'd wanna fly the Corsair, but I have more reasons to fly the Hellcat if my life depended on it http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Hellcats had great speed, good maneuverability, and awe-inspiring durability. Often, they would come home with "more holes than metal" or "more air going through it than around it", thus the nickname "Grumman Iron Works". Plus it was much easier to land on a carrier http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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fordfan25
05-04-2004, 03:35 PM
why was the corsair so much faster than the cat didnt thay have the same power plant

ElAurens
05-04-2004, 03:43 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by sfresh_99:
and better than the P-40 though not by very much(mostly in that case depended on the pilot)..<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

The P40 was the best turner (except for the P36) in the USAAF inventory. The fact that the P51 out turns it at high altitude simply reflects the fact that the P40 was not a high altitude aircraft. Low and slow my money is on the P40.

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Giganoni
05-04-2004, 05:50 PM
I'd have to agree with some people posting here. A nice c-47 far far away from combat is what I would pilot. That would mean far away from the real bullets..the real 20mm slugs ripping through your chest, and the real inferno your plane becomes as you hurtle down to meet your maker on the real ground.

really http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/crazy.gif

fordfan25
05-04-2004, 07:07 PM
do i smell some kfc acooken "sniff sniff"yep smells like extra crispy to me.lol j/k

ucanfly
05-05-2004, 03:02 AM
P47= survivability.

Ruy Horta
05-05-2004, 03:45 AM
We all consider ourselves top aces, hence we forget about ease of handling. Some a/c are better suited to mediocre pilots than others.

I think many underestimate the Hellcat because it doesn't really stand out in any field, but I think that as a real workhorse it might have been a great all rounder and because it was more docile than the Corsair, the supreme US naval fighter.

However PERSONALLY I like the appeal of the Corsair, but secretly I am looking forward most to the Wildcat! Reenact some of the earlier fighting up to the exploits of the Cactus Air Force, leading me again to the early Corsairs!

Somehow when I think of the PTO, I think mainly of the Naval effort, but since I never really liked the P-38 my interest would be devided between the P-40 (character) and P-51 (another good allrounder).

Ruy Horta

biggs222
05-05-2004, 05:16 AM
well its 2004 right now so if i were a fully trained allied pilot back in 1944 id have to say the LF mkIXe.

Id be flying ecort for the B25-26s raids before D-Day. or taking my 2x 250 and 1x 500lb bombload and attacking V1 lauch sites....right along side my wingman Icefire!!!

YOU MA BOY BLUE!

VF-2_John_Banks
05-05-2004, 10:15 AM
I'm with ImpStarDeuce. The P-38L would be my first choice. Next would be the P-40 and the Hellcat.

Btw, many pilot prefered the P-40 over the Stang, due to the higher manouverability and the overall better handling.

Flakwalker
05-05-2004, 04:22 PM
Brewster Buffalo, lol

geetarman
05-06-2004, 03:39 PM
Based on the history as eventually laid out - the P-38 hands-down.

Korolov
05-06-2004, 07:19 PM
Any model of the P-38 would do. Twin engine reliability, strong nose mounted firepower, long range, durable, speed, and climb rate. I can't say it was easy to fly, but it was basic enough to understand how to run it. A lot to manage however, but I'm sure over time it would become routine.

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fordfan25
05-06-2004, 07:33 PM
it woulda been kool if thay woulda put the same engens in the p38 that thay used in the hellcat.

Korolov
05-06-2004, 07:36 PM
Then it would have been grossly overweight. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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tigertalon
05-07-2004, 04:14 AM
Ki-84 with 4x20mm.

regards, tt

Wolf_96th
05-08-2004, 04:39 PM
I think when thi pack comes out I'll pretty much stick with the HellCat and P-38.

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PlaneEater
05-09-2004, 01:52 AM
F2G2 Super Corsair.

P&W Wasp Major R4530, 500 mph on the deck. End of story.

05-09-2004, 07:17 AM
At the Battle of the Coral sea, and the Battle of Midway you got a choice of 2 Naval carrier bourne fighters.

A6M2 Zero or Wild Cat.

Preference does not come into play with these major Sea Battles, just choice of which side you fly on.

S!

GT182
05-09-2004, 07:53 AM
Corsair, P-38s and TBM Avenger.

The Avenger because a friend of mine years ago had one in his backyard. It had crashed on an island in the St.Lawrence River and he bought it for 900 bucks, and found a way to get it home. It was converted to a cropduster and was on it's way back from Canada when engine problems caused the crashlanding. She was repairable but he sold her. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

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SkyChimp
05-09-2004, 08:49 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by PlaneEater:
F2G2 Super Corsair.

P&W Wasp Major R4530, 500 mph on the deck. End of story.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I heard it went 600mph, and had a stewardess.

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heywooood
05-09-2004, 09:14 AM
yeah - but it kept trying to turn left at pylons.

Eagle_361st
05-09-2004, 11:16 AM
Corsair, and second Jug. No others for me thanks. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Ok I guess I will take a Hellcat too. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/11.gif

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RAC_Pips
05-09-2004, 12:32 PM
I've been waiting so long for a decent Pacific sim with an 'as accurate as possible' FM that I'll wanna fly them all. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Once the excitement dies down though, in a year or two.......I'll still wanna fly them all! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Buffaloes in Malaya, F4F's over Guadalcanal, Corsair's up the Solomons chain, F6F's over the wide blue Pacific, P-40's and P-38's in New Guinea and P-47N's and P-51 over Japan. And maybe even a P-39 struggling to get height over Port Moresby. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

jpatrick62
05-10-2004, 10:42 AM
Well I guess the question was historically answered by the Navy in 1944. In that time, when the war was going on, when comparing the actual machines, the Navy chose the Corsair over the Hellcat. That's historical fact, modern computer pilots notwithstanding. This was further backed up in the 1944 Interservice tests in Patuxent naval air station. Pilots around the world took each manufacturers plane up and evaluated them against each other. In the competition between the Hellcat, Corsair, and Seafire, the Corsair (F4u-1d version) was chosen as best Naval fighter. For an earlier question about turn rates and manuverability, tests between a corsair, P51, and Hellcat revealed the Corsair and hellcat easily out-turning the P51, especially at lower alts.