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Titanodragon
08-27-2017, 08:55 PM
Why is lawbringer and valk labled a disabled when other classes disable better????

Trenk2009
08-27-2017, 09:45 PM
Lawbringer and Valk are labeled as disabler because Centurion is a Cutscene creator.

Titanodragon
08-29-2017, 03:52 AM
I understand now

Trbevis
08-29-2017, 04:14 AM
Lawbringer is a disabler because he is the most frustrating hero to play against, parrying every single attack and shoving me about like a school bully thus creating soo much anger in me a tumour literally expands i my brain leaving me disabled. And valk has similar effect except she just spams about 100 lights and then manages to leg sweep every hero in the game friend or foe no matter where they are, thus creating a similar albeit less stress induced disability. Hope this helps! Titanodragon!

Helnekromancer
08-29-2017, 11:54 PM
First you have to understand what Disable is, to make unable or unfit; weaken or destroy the capability of. And then you look at Lawbringer and Valkyrie.

Lawbringer, interrupts Fighter's chains with his shove, the long arm, a parry punish called Blind Justice that allows him to either get a top unblockable heavy or allows him to carry you several feet back either into a wall for free dmg or off the map. He can also use his pin to chase down a target or as a surprise opener in a group fight.

Valkyrie can also counter attack but instead of parrying she uses her shield, Dodge counter similar to assassin if Valkyrie dashes into a oncoming attack she automatically blocks it leading into a Shoulder Pin that bleeds and keeps you in place for a bit. And she also has superior block lights meaning if she times it right she can trade with you without getting hurt, if someone is about to attack her from the left, the Valkyrie can attack in that same direction because her shield will deflect the swing leaving her opponent open for her light. She has a Headbutt that can knock you down or ring you out her widely known spear sweep, a Shield bash and a full block stance similar to Warlord and Conqueror that if hold and release she comes charging at you and if it hits you immediately are knocked down.

The only other Disabler is Shugoki and he's a Disabler because of his ability to drain you stamina with his headbutts, having super armor allows him to take and give out dmg and when he lands a strike he can follow up with a headbutt, forcing the opponent to play at his pace. Along with his hug and baseball swing Shugoki is a very strong Disabler, being the rock of any team he's on.

These 3 Fighter's fill the job of being a Disabler in different ways, one relies on parry,on successfully dodges and blocks, and fighting around their super armor. But in the end these characters will try their best to stop you from ever gaining an advantage, in 4v4 scenarios these are the guys that will constantly harass, and bully you to death forcing you to either retreat or take them out first. These characters strive off you attacking first and punishing you for your mistakes, playing reactive instead of proactive which forces a player to play a unique type of way not everyone is accustom to hence why I think Disablers aren't that popular in For Honor.

UbiJurassic
08-30-2017, 01:17 AM
First you have to understand what Disable is, to make unable or unfit; weaken or destroy the capability of. And then you look at Lawbringer and Valkyrie.

Lawbringer, interrupts Fighter's chains with his shove, the long arm, a parry punish called Blind Justice that allows him to either get a top unblockable heavy or allows him to carry you several feet back either into a wall for free dmg or off the map. He can also use his pin to chase down a target or as a surprise opener in a group fight.

Valkyrie can also counter attack but instead of parrying she uses her shield, Dodge counter similar to assassin if Valkyrie dashes into a oncoming attack she automatically blocks it leading into a Shoulder Pin that bleeds and keeps you in place for a bit. And she also has superior block lights meaning if she times it right she can trade with you without getting hurt, if someone is about to attack her from the left, the Valkyrie can attack in that same direction because her shield will deflect the swing leaving her opponent open for her light. She has a Headbutt that can knock you down or ring you out her widely known spear sweep, a Shield bash and a full block stance similar to Warlord and Conqueror that if hold and release she comes charging at you and if it hits you immediately are knocked down.

The only other Disabler is Shugoki and he's a Disabler because of his ability to drain you stamina with his headbutts, having super armor allows him to take and give out dmg and when he lands a strike he can follow up with a headbutt, forcing the opponent to play at his pace. Along with his hug and baseball swing Shugoki is a very strong Disabler, being the rock of any team he's on.

These 3 Fighter's fill the job of being a Disabler in different ways, one relies on parry,on successfully dodges and blocks, and fighting around their super armor. But in the end these characters will try their best to stop you from ever gaining an advantage, in 4v4 scenarios these are the guys that will constantly harass, and bully you to death forcing you to either retreat or take them out first. These characters strive off you attacking first and punishing you for your mistakes, playing reactive instead of proactive which forces a player to play a unique type of way not everyone is accustom to hence why I think Disablers aren't that popular in For Honor.

A great explanation, Helnekromancer!

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CoyoteXStarrk
08-30-2017, 02:10 AM
First you have to understand what Disable is, to make unable or unfit; weaken or destroy the capability of. And then you look at Lawbringer and Valkyrie.

Lawbringer, interrupts Fighter's chains with his shove, the long arm, a parry punish called Blind Justice that allows him to either get a top unblockable heavy or allows him to carry you several feet back either into a wall for free dmg or off the map. He can also use his pin to chase down a target or as a surprise opener in a group fight.

Valkyrie can also counter attack but instead of parrying she uses her shield, Dodge counter similar to assassin if Valkyrie dashes into a oncoming attack she automatically blocks it leading into a Shoulder Pin that bleeds and keeps you in place for a bit. And she also has superior block lights meaning if she times it right she can trade with you without getting hurt, if someone is about to attack her from the left, the Valkyrie can attack in that same direction because her shield will deflect the swing leaving her opponent open for her light. She has a Headbutt that can knock you down or ring you out her widely known spear sweep, a Shield bash and a full block stance similar to Warlord and Conqueror that if hold and release she comes charging at you and if it hits you immediately are knocked down.

The only other Disabler is Shugoki and he's a Disabler because of his ability to drain you stamina with his headbutts, having super armor allows him to take and give out dmg and when he lands a strike he can follow up with a headbutt, forcing the opponent to play at his pace. Along with his hug and baseball swing Shugoki is a very strong Disabler, being the rock of any team he's on.

These 3 Fighter's fill the job of being a Disabler in different ways, one relies on parry,on successfully dodges and blocks, and fighting around their super armor. But in the end these characters will try their best to stop you from ever gaining an advantage, in 4v4 scenarios these are the guys that will constantly harass, and bully you to death forcing you to either retreat or take them out first. These characters strive off you attacking first and punishing you for your mistakes, playing reactive instead of proactive which forces a player to play a unique type of way not everyone is accustom to hence why I think Disablers aren't that popular in For Honor.

^^^This^^^

Titanodragon
08-30-2017, 03:49 AM
But centurion and also hold you in place, stun you with punches and kicks and then the super long pin combo? So is he not a disabled?

My.Insanity
08-30-2017, 07:24 AM
These 3 Fighter's fill the job of being a Disabler in different ways, one relies on parry,on successfully dodges and blocks, and fighting around their super armor. But in the end these characters will try their best to stop you from ever gaining an advantage, in 4v4 scenarios these are the guys that will constantly harass, and bully you to death forcing you to either retreat or take them out first. These characters strive off you attacking first and punishing you for your mistakes, playing reactive instead of proactive which forces a player to play a unique type of way not everyone is accustom to hence why I think Disablers aren't that popular in For Honor.

All you wrote about those 3 Heros can be much easier achieved by using nearly ALL OTHER HEROS... you want to stop Enemys from hitting your mates? No problem.. take Conq and shieldbash the sh!t out of them... not good enough? Okay take Warlord or Raider and keep pushing your enemys over the whole map.... what you say its not save enough? Try one of the new Heros like the Highlander who can use unblockable kicks and grabs or the Gladiator who can Punch the sh!t out of your enemy while toe stabbing them btw he has 80% of the same Kit as the Valk just better... still not sure which Hero to pick for disabling your enemys? Well here we go... take the Centurion... he is the best Disabler / Mixup / Staminadrain / Punisher / Dmg Dealer in the Game... you want to make 4on4 a living nightmare for your enemys.. here is your tool! Charged Pin attacks / Stamina drain like a good damn vaccum cleaner / a lvl 3 feat which can pin you so long that you can go afk for the rest of the Game if no one attacks you. Unblockable Kicks and Punches which throw your enemys on the ground.. oh boy who need a "disabler" when you can play such a Hero