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bonogun
07-21-2004, 08:45 PM
Does anyone who uses this hotas model, ever find that the stick gets....sticky? Like the plastic base that supports the spring, rubs to hard along the inner shaft of the stick. I was thinking of putting somekind of light lube on the stick that the base ring rides on. But if anyone knows of what I'm talking bout, and has a better idea, I'm all ears. Well, I've two ears, the rest is just random parts I use here and there. Sorry lame joke.
Cheers

bonogun
07-21-2004, 08:45 PM
Does anyone who uses this hotas model, ever find that the stick gets....sticky? Like the plastic base that supports the spring, rubs to hard along the inner shaft of the stick. I was thinking of putting somekind of light lube on the stick that the base ring rides on. But if anyone knows of what I'm talking bout, and has a better idea, I'm all ears. Well, I've two ears, the rest is just random parts I use here and there. Sorry lame joke.
Cheers

_VR_ScorpionWorm
07-21-2004, 08:47 PM
Some have said to use birthday candles, the wax keeps it moving freely, and use two zip ties to tie up two of the springs.

Edit: I have an X45 and this is what I do, tieing the spring up releases the stress of the stick, and putting the wax helps with the smooth movements.

http://img55.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Scorpion08/Hurri-1.jpg

www.vultures-row.com (http://www.vultures-row.com)

aerick2
07-21-2004, 08:48 PM
Hmm sounds interesting.. as an X45 user, I'm "all ears" as well.

bonogun
07-21-2004, 09:03 PM
interesting...I thought the mesage would be hard to understand, but looks like I wasn't alone. I'll give it a go...cheers

Waldo.Pepper
07-21-2004, 10:28 PM
For what its worth, quick ties here also. I'm thinking of removing the spring all together. No stick in a real plane centres by itself (None that I know of.)

steve_v
07-21-2004, 10:32 PM
I use the zip ties and have been very happy with the results. link to explanation: http://members.chello.at/dolphin6/mod_spring/

http://home.earthlink.net/~viner45/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/lance_sig.jpg (http://www.eurosport.com/home/pages/V4/L0/S18/E6083/sport_Lng0_Spo18_Evt6083.shtml)Lance tries for number six.

Owlsphone
07-21-2004, 10:54 PM
You my friend, have just won the Sexual Innuendo Award. Congrats.

http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v251/Owlsphone/Sig.jpg
Vertically challenged since 1984.

bonogun
07-21-2004, 11:41 PM
LoL!! Having just re read my post, it sure as hell sound a bit ...well I'll just leave it alone! But the twist tie is working like a charm.
Cheers

bartflaster1
07-22-2004, 01:02 AM
At the risk of adding to the innuendo ...
I push the stick up and left, and smear some vaseline around the shaft and underside of the plastic ring. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

If only Saiteks drivers were so easy to sort http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Fehler
07-22-2004, 02:10 AM
Oh, dont use vaseline! It will collect dirt and gum up the stick eventually. If you insist on using a grease-type lubricant, use lithium grease. Otherwise stay away from petroleum based lubes.

I use wax; from a candle. It works wonders, and just a stroke or two on the cup base will free up the tiny jerky movements in your stick.

I used to use the zip ties, but I discovered that after a while the spring became better and removed them.

I have owned my X45 for 2.5 years now. Everything is still working as it did the day I bought it, but you cant be ham-fisted when using a plastic HOTAS. I still use my HAT's for view and they still have the "Clickiness" like they did when they were first new. I still love this stick!

http://webpages.charter.net/cuda70/FehlerSig.gif
http://webpages.charter.net/cuda70/9JG54.html

llandaff
07-22-2004, 02:29 AM
I waxed my X45 stick yesterday with candle - much better now.

Bull-Dog.
07-22-2004, 05:52 AM
I have removed the spring and use rubber bands from stick to base corners to give some resistance and centering.
It doesnt look elegent but works well giving finer control.

http://mysite.freeserve.com/bull_dog/images/4-picture.jpg?0.9775497653600231

Tully__
07-22-2004, 09:16 AM
Don't use any petroleum based lubricants, they degrade the plastic. Wax or a very small quantity of silicone based lube is the go.

Some have also found that a ring of plasticised card under the cone has helped (cut from a glossy cereal pack or other packaging).

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http://members.optusnet.com.au/tully_78th/sig.jpg

Tully's X-45 profile (SST drivers) (http://members.optusnet.com.au/tully_78th/fb.zip)

Salut
Tully

ednavar
07-22-2004, 09:52 AM
Ah! I did know that Saitek was X(45)rated! I'll stick with my TM http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

F16_Neo
07-22-2004, 11:12 AM
I saw a thread about using silicone-grease spray on "sticky" sticks, and button 5 & 6 on my EVO was sticky... so I sprayed them and they got a lot better. Then thought "what the hell" and gave the centering mechanism a go while I was at it.
BIG mistake, for some reason the plastic reacted differently and it went really bad. After a lot of cleaning and the ziptie trick it's almost back to normal.
STAY AWAY from strange lubricants!!!

http://img36.photobucket.com/albums/v109/F16_Neo/Sigs%20Avatars/sig_v2.jpg

RemmyC4
07-28-2010, 11:18 AM
Sorry to reply to a 6 year old thread but...

I just bought a used X45 the other day from Amazon. It's great minus the rubbing everybody mentions. When you talk about waxing it.. the rubbing seems to be coming from inside the actual box, do I need to take it apart to get the wax where it needs to be?

F16_Neo
07-28-2010, 12:48 PM
Wow http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
Seems appropriate that I say something as I was last one speaking almost exactly six years ago.

What I think you should do, is to pull up the spring-loaded plastic ring, and then rub candle wax on the contact-surface between the ring and the stick (not between the ring and the stick base). On the stick shaft, where the ring slides up and down.
Edit: No disassembly should be needed.

Strange word Joy-Stick? Who came up with that, by the way. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

RemmyC4
07-28-2010, 01:18 PM
Neo, that's effing hilarious. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Thanks for the tip, I'll try greasing the shaft... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Joy-stick... I think they invented to term just so we could make sexual innuendos. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

DKoor
07-28-2010, 02:33 PM
Sorry to mention this the hard way, but I feel that my money for X-45 was such a waste.
I got all that from Cyborg EVO which I bought 2 months or so after the X-45, and it serves me to this day. That was YEARS ago.
X-45 got to shot down few bandits and that all... Cyborg killed thousands http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif .

X-45 still chills out in the original box on the shelf.
I never really got past that strange rocker rudder, stick was fine made tho... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif
Hope you guys make a better use of it...

T_O_A_D
07-28-2010, 11:23 PM
Something else I did with my X-45 when using it (over and above the candle wax mentioned already) was to take a couple zip ties and squeeze the spring a bit to loosen its tension.

I may still have some pics of it on Photobucket.

Nope but I did find these.
A bit of foam, if your hand isn't quite comfortable.

http://img.photobucket.com/alb...%20stuff/Stick_1.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/T_O_A_D/Joystick%20stuff/Stick_1.jpg)

That Rocker Rudder, caused me to go buy CH pedals the next day, way back when.

I also banned the rocker rudder to control left and right engines, right after that also.

http://img.photobucket.com/alb...tuff/x-45_page_2.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/T_O_A_D/Joystick%20stuff/x-45_page_2.jpg)
http://img.photobucket.com/alb...tuff/x-45_page_1.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/T_O_A_D/Joystick%20stuff/x-45_page_1.jpg)

Still using the X-45 throttle, and ch pedals.

Just pushed the stick up and forward for nothing more than a button bay, for controlling bomb site, and canopy, and such.

I fly with a Microsoft FFB included to the arrangement.

I need to sit down and work out the new profiling software, so I can implement my controls in Win7, I wish Saitek would of made a prog to convert our older profiles to the new software. It irritates me they took away the visual aids in the program.

VF-17_Jolly
07-29-2010, 02:44 PM
Im glad this thread came up again. I lent my x-45 to a friend about a year ago and it reminded me to ask for it back.
I just got it back today http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif cheers

BillyTheKid_22
07-29-2010, 05:48 PM
My Saitek X45 life!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif