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Ak9779
08-11-2004, 04:35 PM
It's a slow day at work and I feel like sharing http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

I have come to tell you the sad tale of the worst Dgen mission I've ever flown.

This was near the begining of my I-16 campaign, where we were assigned to fly escort for a U2 which was on a recon mission to a target we'd hit yesterday (or at least a target that was near there) I was the number 7 man at the time.

So we take off and meet up with the U2. The I-16 is not a particularly fast plane, but the U2 moves at a speed that is almost glacierlike. So our flight leader has us going in circles around this little recon plane as it merrily chugs its way towards its target at the pace of a leisurely stroll. After 1/2 hour and about 13 near colissions with my own squaddies in turns, I give up and turn on the autopilot, then switch on time compression. We all make it out to the target with no incedent, (playback revealed that there were NO axis aircraft in the sky at all, I guess we had pasted them pretty good in the prev. few missions)

Anyway, we circle around this U2 until we're all the way back to our airbase, where, (mercifully) the flight leader decides it's time to land. I switch off autopilot and time compression, and take the controls as I follow the rest of the flight in the landing pattern. and wait..and wait...and wait..and wait.. as the other 6 members of my flight land in turn. finally I get permission to land, and as I'm getting into my final approach...My engine cuts out. I'm out of fuel! Swearing with near seaman-like proficiency, I (manually) haul my gear back up and glide as far as I can to make a decent water landing about 200m from shore. (based in Krohnstadt)
The mission was a sucess, but I'd lost my aircraft. Lame. The #8 guy had to water-land as well.

So yeah. Worst Dgen mission EVER. Boredom followed by an ignominous landing in the drink, and a sound ribbing once I got back to virtual HQ, I'm sure. Good thing I'd remembered to pack my water wings.

Anyway.
Anyone else have any horrible missions they'd like to share?

Later,
Ak

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MACHINE GUN : JAMMED
FUEL TANK: LEAK
ENGINE: ON FIRE
PILOT: WOUNDED
...Yeah, it's gonna be one of those days...

Ak9779
08-11-2004, 04:35 PM
It's a slow day at work and I feel like sharing http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

I have come to tell you the sad tale of the worst Dgen mission I've ever flown.

This was near the begining of my I-16 campaign, where we were assigned to fly escort for a U2 which was on a recon mission to a target we'd hit yesterday (or at least a target that was near there) I was the number 7 man at the time.

So we take off and meet up with the U2. The I-16 is not a particularly fast plane, but the U2 moves at a speed that is almost glacierlike. So our flight leader has us going in circles around this little recon plane as it merrily chugs its way towards its target at the pace of a leisurely stroll. After 1/2 hour and about 13 near colissions with my own squaddies in turns, I give up and turn on the autopilot, then switch on time compression. We all make it out to the target with no incedent, (playback revealed that there were NO axis aircraft in the sky at all, I guess we had pasted them pretty good in the prev. few missions)

Anyway, we circle around this U2 until we're all the way back to our airbase, where, (mercifully) the flight leader decides it's time to land. I switch off autopilot and time compression, and take the controls as I follow the rest of the flight in the landing pattern. and wait..and wait...and wait..and wait.. as the other 6 members of my flight land in turn. finally I get permission to land, and as I'm getting into my final approach...My engine cuts out. I'm out of fuel! Swearing with near seaman-like proficiency, I (manually) haul my gear back up and glide as far as I can to make a decent water landing about 200m from shore. (based in Krohnstadt)
The mission was a sucess, but I'd lost my aircraft. Lame. The #8 guy had to water-land as well.

So yeah. Worst Dgen mission EVER. Boredom followed by an ignominous landing in the drink, and a sound ribbing once I got back to virtual HQ, I'm sure. Good thing I'd remembered to pack my water wings.

Anyway.
Anyone else have any horrible missions they'd like to share?

Later,
Ak

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MACHINE GUN : JAMMED
FUEL TANK: LEAK
ENGINE: ON FIRE
PILOT: WOUNDED
...Yeah, it's gonna be one of those days...

p1ngu666
08-11-2004, 05:42 PM
done a few Ngen ones, consisting of flying for AGES and not meeting enemy
yay.

i quickly learned to avoid those coops

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heywooood
08-11-2004, 05:54 PM
so much for realism... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif



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SUPERAEREO
08-11-2004, 06:25 PM
Hey, didn't some veteran say that combat flying is 99% boredom and 1% pure fear, or something to that effect..?

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p1ngu666
08-11-2004, 06:51 PM
yes great ill sit there being bored for eternaty.
what a lot of fun http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

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Tooz_69GIAP
08-11-2004, 07:04 PM
Well the battle record of one pilot, Nikolai Proshenkov (Squadron Leader in the 69th GIAP in 1945) kinda shows the picture in terms of enemy contact:

Sorties: 375
Sorties with combat: 86
Kills: 19
Shared kills: 4

That's only 23% of his entire combat career that he encountered enemy aircraft in the air.

whit ye looking at, ya big jessie?!?!

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Ak9779
08-11-2004, 07:08 PM
Heheh.. Yeh. as I understand it, a lot of missions would go by without seeing hide nor hair of the enemy... And I'm sure that a lot of pilots were thankful for this..

But it's another thing altogether when you've only got 1 hour between work and night school to fly in, and you've already blown 1/2 of it getting 1/3 of the way to the target http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Later,
AK

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MACHINE GUN : JAMMED
FUEL TANK: LEAK
ENGINE: ON FIRE
PILOT: WOUNDED
...Yeah, it's gonna be one of those days...

nachwuchs
08-12-2004, 04:16 AM
Hi.

I've experience out of fuel too (almost). I was flying 109's in no. 7 position and we were suppose to cover a flight of Stukas. But as soon as the enemies appear every 109's dove and attack and I stayed a little bit higher to keep no. 6 on my sight.

After a moment the Stukas were shouting for help and I could see them being shot from the sky at high altitude, our flight leader didn't try to get to them....

Later as we were heading for base red light started glowing to indicate low fuel. When we got to the base I landed immediately and I got and earfull from my flight leader to stay in formation. Well I landed anyway and watch the rest of the flight land.

Not to my surprise the the rest of the flight of no. 9 and up all ran out of fuel and belly landed.

So after this misssion I imagine myself arguing with my flight leader and being send back for discipline training.

PBNA-Boosher
08-12-2004, 11:03 AM
I've flown very few campaigns because my computer is slow, but once or twice I manage to use the computer I have downstairs and try a campaign.

I was flying the MiG-3 1940 version as the #3 man on a CAP around Smolensk when our flight encountered 4 Bf-110's and 8 Bf-109 escorts. Our puny number of 6 MiG-3's were running low on fuel, but we were close to home. We also were 1000 meters higher then they were, so I told my wingman to cover me while I engaged the targets. I quickly realized that these German planes were after my base when I saw the 110's diving down from altitude toward our airfield. I came down hard upon the flight leader of the escorting 109 and fired all my weapons into his engine, which flamed. The pilot didn't make it out.

My wingman ripped apart another man behind me, (you see, AI wingmen in this game aren't useless!) And then he took out another 109 on #2's tail. I floored the throttle and headed off to the 110's, my wingman followed, as did the rest of my flight.
We reached them in time, and I downed 2 planes by killing the pilots. The 110's spun out of control. One 110 dropped his bombs early, and another was completely pummeled by the flight leader.
The 110 that had dropped his bombs flew around like a fighter. We tried to follow him, but the pilot was smart, and he drove us right back into the flight of remaining 109's. So we locked ourselves in desperate combat, trying to evade and get back to base.

This is what really got to me. I was chasing the Bf-110 with 2 109's behind me, my wingman was desperately trying to pick them off my tail. I got close to the 110 and fired a short burst into his engine, and it started throwing black smoke, but the plane kept flying. My wingman had downed one of the 109's by this point, and another one flew in front of me. I shot a quick burst and flamed it, luckily. Our fuel level was really low, so I told everyone to go back to base. But the flight didn't listen, a bug I guess.
RIGHT THEN AND THERE, I noticed I was in a head on with the last Bf-109 escort. I started firing, and he started firing. THen my AI wingman did the unbelieveable for me... He flew right in front of me, guns blazing. I stopped firing to avoid hitting him and breaked a hard left to avoid a collison. the 109 pilot started following me, still shooting his guns. My AI wingman flew straight into his bullets like he was shielding me, like he'd given his life to protect me. His plane exploded in a brilliant flash of yellow light, and the Bf-109 also exploded after being showered by my wingman's debris.

This game is the most immersive I've come across. I'll never forget that mission. My plane was badly shot up after that and I crashed on the runway. I survived. I probably would not have if it were not for that AI pilot. If it were possible to give medals to the AI in IL2, I would have given him the Hero of the Soviet Union medal and the Order of Lenin. It made me feel like such a brotherhood did exist, and still does.

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Kasdeya
08-12-2004, 11:11 AM
Great story Boosh. Now thats what I'm talkin bout. Immersion Baby!!

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Ak9779
08-12-2004, 05:01 PM
Wow. That sounds like it was awesome. From a gamer's perspective, at least http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

I'm certainly not panning the game or Dgen, I just was venting my frustrations from that particular incident. I've certainly had more good experiences than bad. And yeah, the AI is a lifesaver.

Another of the early I-16 missions found my flight intercepting a flight of 111's who were intent on bombing some artists(!) who were somehow crucial to the war effort...

Anyway, we're climbing towards the bombers when a 2 flights of hungry 109's dive in on us.

Over the protestations of common sense, I stay with my flight as we climb into the teeth of the diving fighters. Their initial attack blows the wing clean of the fighter in front of me, which drops like a burning stone.

Our flight breaks and pursues the 109's and very quickly the whole affair ends up on the deck. In the midst of the furball I turn to notice two 109's hard on my tail. I lead them on a decent chase, but it's obvious that between the two of them, they pretty well have me hemmed in. My engine is overheating and beginning to protest the harsh treament. I know I've got less than a minute before I'm in serious danger of losing power.

With tracer streaming by my tail and my airspeed already dangerously low, I pull into a tight circle and sweep the skies looking for my squadron mates. If I can drag the 109's by a nearby friendly, I might peel them off my tail. Nothing. In near panic I check again. Thousands of meters above me I see a twinkling of green tracer fire. While I was dancing with the 109s, the rest of my flight, having mopped up the other 109s, had gone off to reengage the bombers! I was alone at low level, low speed, overheating and with two wolves snapping at my heels.

In desperation, I call for help over the radio, but I'm already looking for someplace safe to ground the plane and take off running. I figure my flight will never be able to get there in time.

I manage to get both of the 109's to overshoot, but I'm so slow I don't dare maneuver after them for fear of a stall. I firewall my groaning engine in a bid to gain some airspeed as I watch them circle back around and onto my six.

As they're closing and I am readying my last-ditch maneuver (a loop, followed by ditching the plane in a lake) I see a black speck on my 12 0'clock rapidly grow into a green and brown I-16, diving in fast at a pretty good angle. It opens up and green tracer and 20mm fly just a few meters over the top of my open cockpit as my flight leader comes to the rescue, peppering the 109 behind me and forcing him to peel off, smoking. The rest of the flight is not far behind. I throttled back and jammed open my radiator and watched as my squad pursued the 109's into the distance. I guess they had heard me after all http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

We did eventually rejoin, but the damage to my engine had already been done, and it sputtered out before I got all the way home. Luckily I managed to coast down into a field safely.

I figure I now owe my virtual wingies 2 rounds of beer, one for the assist, and another for losing yet another plane... But I'm learning.

Later,

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MACHINE GUN : JAMMED
FUEL TANK: LEAK
ENGINE: ON FIRE
PILOT: WOUNDED
...Yeah, it's gonna be one of those days...

Kasdeya
08-12-2004, 05:06 PM
Interesting and great story Ak9779. I never have those types of stories, either the enemy gets me quick or I miss everything I shoot at and break somehting on my ride http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/35.gif. My luck I guess. I survive but dont have much else to show for the broken parts.

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Vladimir_No2
08-12-2004, 09:14 PM
In one of the first few missions of my P-39N Stalingrad campaign, my squad was assigned to a CAP around some town to the south of Stalingrad. After takeoff, we were jumped by two Bf-109s, and I managed to shoot one down [it happened to be Rall]. We flew on, and commenced our patrol. Within minutes, we encountered a group of Ju-88s escorted by M.202s [four I belive]. In the battle that followed, I managed to shoot down three of the bombers before I ran out of cannon ammo. At this point, I had also sustained some battle damage, and I decided that it would be wise to head for home before my engine quit. I flew on alone, and about half of the way there tracers started flying past me. I evaded and found that a M.202 had found its way onto my six. I managed to work my way onto his tail and I fired every last round in my wing guns into the m.202, with no effect. Being near to the town my squad was defending, I decided to drag him into the flak. I evaded his fire as I approched the town, but I quickly realized that there was no light flak, and the 85mm guns were not likely to hit him. I called for help, but I knew that my squad was to far away to save me. Suddenly, to my suprise, 6 I-16 type 24s appeared on my 3 o'clock and opened fire on the enemy. He broke off my tail, allowing me to escape back to my base, and was torn apart by the swarm of AI Ratas. To add to my luck, my engine failed to die until after I was on the ground and off the runway.

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