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Capt._Tenneal
02-26-2004, 11:00 AM
What do you think is the best bomber interceptor in the game ? Allied or Axis.

Using the criteria of durability (to take punishment from the turret gunners), firepower (to take down the bombers), others (speed ? climb/dive rate ?). Is there a "best" for an average pilot and a veteran or ace pilot ? Best early war and late war ?

You can modify your selection once the AEP comes out too.

Capt._Tenneal
02-26-2004, 11:00 AM
What do you think is the best bomber interceptor in the game ? Allied or Axis.

Using the criteria of durability (to take punishment from the turret gunners), firepower (to take down the bombers), others (speed ? climb/dive rate ?). Is there a "best" for an average pilot and a veteran or ace pilot ? Best early war and late war ?

You can modify your selection once the AEP comes out too.

FWdreamer
02-26-2004, 11:47 AM
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I would have to say hands down the 190A series, a8 or a9 being bred for doing this. I feel any of the Antons can wipe out bomber with realative saftey. Not sure if the D9 are really great at shooting them down since i dont fly them, mudmover here. But after AEP the 110g2 with its gun mounts like the p38 will be nice. The 109's would be last for the german planes though with the skilled pilots they can. I wont cuz the 109's are just made of tin and one shot its over. Im not that http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/crazy.gif to attack bombers with a 109 hehe.

The russian planes i will go with the la-5 series and the late Yaks with that big cannon. AMerican planes will go first with the p39 and that cannon's one shot potential. Then the jug and finally the p51.

OOPS how could i forget the ultimate would have to be the me262. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif But that is my opinon. As i am sure other will disagree with my views. The big guns and armour help, but it does boil down to who is flying the plane. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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Mitlov47
02-26-2004, 11:50 AM
For late war, I'd go with the Yak-9k, hands down. That giant cannon can wipe out even the biggest bombers with one shot.

For early war, I'd actually take an I-16 with rockets mounted. It ain't the fastest and it lacks armor, but rockets are an immense asset for taking down large bombers.

The P-39 is also a good choice--strong all-rounder with a nice big gun.

(I've only got the original IL-2, not FB, so my aircraft selection is limited)

Capt.LoneRanger
02-26-2004, 11:54 AM
I'd vote for FWs and late Bf109s with gunpods.

Why?

Cause they were designed to shot down incoming bombers, unlike any other a/c in FB.


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Mitlov47
02-26-2004, 11:59 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Capt.LoneRanger:
I'd vote for FWs and late Bf109s with gunpods.

Why?

Cause they were designed to shot down incoming bombers, unlike any other a/c in FB.


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Capt.LoneRanger
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Really? The Yak-9K wasn't designed to hunt large bombers? What else was that giant gun for? Not a flame, just curious.

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Hunde_3.JG51
02-26-2004, 12:10 PM
Best for veteran pilot: Me-262.

Best for average pilot: FW-190A (especially those with twin 30mm cannons). This holds true for early or late war IMHO (at least starting in '42 in FB, starting in '41 in RL). The main reason that seperates the 190 from the others (P-39, large caliber Yaks, etc.) is its ability to withstand punishment, particularly its engine.

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Capt._Tenneal
02-26-2004, 12:12 PM
Is the Yak-9K the one where the recoil of the main gun rocks the plane and throws off the aim, so the pilots were advised to fire in 3-shot bursts (or something like that) ?

Tovarish_06
02-26-2004, 12:14 PM
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Really? The Yak-9K wasn't designed to hunt
large bombers? What else was that giant gun for? Not a flame, just curious.
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The Yak-9K was designed for anti-shipping.

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BaldieJr
02-26-2004, 12:16 PM
If you aren't going to specify the target, I'll say I-153 is best interceptor in the game.

Otherwise, it depends on the target.

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BS87
02-26-2004, 12:21 PM
190 A8/9 with Mk103 gunpods, hands down for me.

mortoma
02-26-2004, 12:23 PM
The Lagg-3 S4 is the best. It may be early war and a bit slow and not the best climber. But once you get there, you have fighter that is virtually immune from defensive fire from the gunners. The firepower of the two Mgs and two cannons, plus the fact that they are concentrated in the nose means "Goodbye bombers and hello nice warm dinner when I get back to base". To shoot down five bombers on one ammo load is easy. If the Mig-3 had a tougher DM I would award it, since it has equal firepower, is faster and better climber, plus it's gunning platform is second to none. I can pick any spot on a bomber I want to shoot with the Mig-3 and hit it perfectly. Too bad a spitball will flame the Mig-3. One hit from a gunner is curtains for Mig. The survivability of the Lagg S4, coupled with the damage model can't be beat for the VVS. It's matched by the 190 on the German side, which also has speed, although it's a poor climber.

tttiger
02-26-2004, 12:51 PM
Shipping? Hadn't heard that one before. Great imaginations in here sometimes http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

The Yak-9K was used primarily to hunt bombers and jabos. It was not effective against other fighters, so it almost always flew with an escort, usually Yak-3s.

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Korolov
02-26-2004, 12:59 PM
Me-262A-1a. Four mk108s, fast speed, good climb (as long as you load up 50% or less fuel.)

If not that one, Bf-109K-4. Climbs real fast, heavy enough firepower.

I wouldnt choose the Fw-190 because, while it has heavy firepower, its climb rate is abysmal at best. It would be great for going out and hunting bombers, but not for intercepting them.

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Bansai Potato
02-26-2004, 01:26 PM
ME 262

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Tovarish_06
02-26-2004, 01:48 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by tttiger:
Shipping? Hadn't heard that one before. Great imaginations in here sometimes http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
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I could have sworn I had read that, but a few minutes on google and I can't find anything to support my "theory". I guess I was also confused by the method used to designate the Yak-9T (Tankovsky)- Anti-tank and I thought the 'K' in Yak-9K likewise stood for anti-ship (The russian word for ship is Korabel), but it stands for Kruptokaliberni (heavy-caliber). Anyhow I've been reading about Soviet fighters of WWII since I could read http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif, It wouldn't surprize me if Yak-9K's HAD been used against ships.

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owlwatcher
02-26-2004, 02:15 PM
For attacking 4 engine planes.
Tried the russian planes, not enought armour plate.
I had high hopes on them too. The guns were right.
Me 262 one round & engine goes.
I vote FW190 with 108's onboard.
Seems to be the best balance of speed ,fire power and armour plate.

Brotrob
02-26-2004, 02:27 PM
Me 262 , defenitly.

First a spray-shoot with the R4M, the rest of the Bombers do the 4 30mm Cannons.

Only problem: dont let the gunners hit your Engine.
But fortunatly: if they shot 1 engine smoking, you just turn it of and the Gunners wont aim for you anymore, so if there's no Fighter-Escort, this will lead in a Turkey-Shoot http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

JR_Greenhorn
02-26-2004, 03:24 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Brotrob:
...R4M...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>What is the status of those this week? Is it salvo-only or fire-in-pairs? What did we decide was historical? How will they be in the update this time around?

LEXX_Luthor
02-26-2004, 03:29 PM
This thread should wait until the releace of P~38

Granted, June is a long time to wait http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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Zen--
02-26-2004, 03:30 PM
Lexx, that's just plain funny

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crazyivan1970
02-26-2004, 03:31 PM
Gotta be 262, firepower and speed.

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Brotrob
02-26-2004, 03:35 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>
Originally posted by JR_Greenhorn:
Is it salvo-only or fire-in-pairs? What did we decide was historical? How will they be in the update this time around?
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They are fired in a salvo, as it was historical. Since the new patch . Now they are the giant shoot-gun they were supposed to be http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

gates123
02-26-2004, 04:26 PM
I disagree with all of you, it's gotta be the Storch varient with the wing mounted 9mm's

http://gr.fipu.krasnoyarsk.edu/camms/archive/ww2_fighters/0112/pics/0112_2_1.jpg
Did anyone see that or was it just me?

Capt.LoneRanger
02-26-2004, 04:43 PM
EMitton

posted 26-02-04 10:59
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Really? The Yak-9K wasn't designed to hunt large bombers? What else was that giant gun for? Not a flame, just curious.
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@ EMitton
Negative - the Yak9K was one of the results of the ongoing additions and improvements to the yak series. And with the Yak9, more than with any other Yak, the strategy was to throw a massive number of fighters into the battle against German fighters. That's one reason why these yaks can outturn any other fighter in low altitudes. In high altitudes, esxpecially Yak9 were too slow and vulnerable.
The Yak9 was built in vastly more numbers than all other Yaks together and they were unbelievable unreliable and made of poor material, manufactured in a hurry. It really was the mass that was thought to bring the victory

Again: Pitty they didn't modell reliability in FB I doubt La7-3B20 and most yaks would be such a "hit", then - especially for nOObs.


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