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Cyrano
05-26-2004, 05:50 PM
http://www.guru3d.com/newsitem.php?id=1508

This was brought up in the general discussion forum but since many people are buying this type of card I thought I'd bring it up here too.
Warning! this internet seller sells only 128bit type Radeon 9800pro cards and they do not tell you that you are purchasing the substandard type. Beware!

http://www.buyxg.com/

Cyrano
05-26-2004, 05:50 PM
http://www.guru3d.com/newsitem.php?id=1508

This was brought up in the general discussion forum but since many people are buying this type of card I thought I'd bring it up here too.
Warning! this internet seller sells only 128bit type Radeon 9800pro cards and they do not tell you that you are purchasing the substandard type. Beware!

http://www.buyxg.com/

Hunter82
05-26-2004, 08:14 PM
Those look to be SE editions but not labeled properly by the vendor http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif Def. pay attention when buying that they are 256 and not 128.

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609IAP_Recon
05-26-2004, 09:09 PM
Is there a way to check outside of the box?

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Hunter82
05-26-2004, 09:15 PM
They will say 256 bit or 128 on the box. Most SE models say 9800Pro SE.

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crazyivan1970
05-26-2004, 09:23 PM
what about OEM B man... and why are you still up LOL...

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jurinko
05-27-2004, 12:50 AM
what about moving that thread to Techsupport man

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arcadeace
05-27-2004, 02:15 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JG50_Recon:
Is there a way to check outside of the box?

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From Guru3D: As you can see, they are designed similar (but not identically) to usual RADEON 9800SE-128bit/9500Pro products, feature TSOP chips, but clock rates are 325/580 MHz instead of PRO's 380/680 MHz. They are suitable for RADEON 9800 more.

In other words, there are three differences:

* PCB design
* TSOP memory chips
* Reduced clock rates

Here is the original article http://www.digit-life.com/news.html. Sapphire appears to be the main manufacturer doing this. There's a good photo of the vid card layout. I have a Sapphire 98Pro and mine is very different; I have the real Pro.

Hunter82
05-27-2004, 05:50 AM
Only manufacturers not built by ATI cards. Could be just a labeling issue or one of those things like Nvidia did with DX8.1 support listed on the MX boxes. I would imagine Sapphire could get in trouble for this.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by crazyivan1970:
what about OEM B man... and why are you still up LOL...

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crazyivan1970
05-27-2004, 10:16 AM
I`d move it to techsupport, but whole alot more ppl are reading General Discussion. Could be usefull for them.

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No601_Zulu
05-27-2004, 10:23 AM
http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-sad.gif Hi Guys I've just bought an ATi Radeon 9800Pro 128MB online and I'm really worried now. Is there any "For certain" way of identifing a sub-standard ATi Radeon 9800Pro 128MB. The one I have before me has no makers markings, and as it is OEM spec it therefore came with no box, no manual, no drivers.

I've checked the info on the web pages listed above and it dont help to much, I have spoken to the supplier and he says as far as they are aware its a ATi 9800Pro 128mb made by Sapphire, on hearing this thats when guts tightened.

The fact that it's OEM worries me not at all, dont need a fancy box and games I'll never play!!

But at this momment I have that terrible knotted feeling in my guts.

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Cyrano
05-27-2004, 01:19 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by No601_Zulu:
http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-sad.gif Hi Guys I've just bought an ATi Radeon 9800Pro 128MB online and I'm really worried now. Is there any "For certain" way of identifing a sub-standard ATi Radeon 9800Pro 128MB. The one I have before me has no makers markings, and as it is OEM spec it therefore came with no box, no manual, no drivers.

I've checked the info on the web pages listed above and it dont help to much, I have spoken to the supplier and he says as far as they are aware its a ATi 9800Pro 128mb made by Sapphire, on hearing this thats when guts tightened.

The fact that it's OEM worries me not at all, dont need a fancy box and games I'll never play!!

But at this momment I have that terrible knotted feeling in my guts.

Zulu
No.601 Squadron
Tangmere Pilots

Continuing a campaign to bring the Typhoon/Tempest, Mosquito and Beaufighter to IL-2 FB AEP....Please.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Zulu,

There's a fellow who put up this link in the general discussion room for a neat little program that should tell you what type of card you have. http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail.php3?fid=1033800563

Once you get it running, look on the left side of the screen, under "Display" click on "GPU".
On the right side of the screen look under "memory bus properties" the bus width should be 256-bit. There's a picture of this on the second page of this thread. Good Luckhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
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Udidtoo
05-27-2004, 01:48 PM
I think a lot of the confusion is coming from the boxes that are labeled 128 MB DDR with 256-bit memory interface.

If you have the 265 bit then as I understand from the ATI site you are fine as this is what will appear in the bus width column when useing the Aida program mentioned in the above link.

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No601_Zulu
05-27-2004, 04:35 PM
Thanks for your help guys. Looks like the only way I'm gonna find out is by "plug and Play" http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif Just hope it's not a case of "Tears before bedtime" I just hate to see a grown man blubbing..... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Zulu
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Hunter82
05-28-2004, 05:58 AM
SO far the only cards I've seen to employ this are sapphire. Make sure the box says 256 bit and not 128 bit. If it says 256 go ahead and install then check with aida. If it says 128 return to sender and purchase another. Specify your model you want as 256 bit and nothing else.

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609IAP_Recon
05-28-2004, 06:22 AM
I have saphire, but again, I bought OEM.

Still not sure how to tell what I have.

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609IAP_Recon
05-28-2004, 06:27 AM
thanks for link to that program.

Looks like i'm ok.
says:

bus width 256-bit

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No601_Zulu
05-28-2004, 06:49 AM
I've contacted the Technical department of the vendor and was informed that it is a 256bit card that I have purchased. I won't be able to install card until Tuesday June 1st. So it looks like I'll have to bite my nails over the weekend, but the first thing after install will be to run that utility, and not FB as I'd hoped. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Thats the problem with OEM, No box, No spec = in this case big worry.

Zulu
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