PDA

View Full Version : Pierre Clostermann Letter



JorBR
02-10-2004, 07:12 AM
Kiddnaped from SimHQ forum, interesting

http://koti.mbnet.fi/~jjuvonen/pilots_eng/cloclo_letter_eng.html

"Never wrestle with a pig; you both get dirty but the pig enjoys it!"

JorBR
02-10-2004, 07:12 AM
Kiddnaped from SimHQ forum, interesting

http://koti.mbnet.fi/~jjuvonen/pilots_eng/cloclo_letter_eng.html

"Never wrestle with a pig; you both get dirty but the pig enjoys it!"

watteville
02-10-2004, 07:33 AM
Rupert Murdoch at his finest;

According to him;

Concorde crashed because The French were too cheap to change a tire and WW2 veterans are banned from Normandy beaches for 2004 celebrations

Yellow journalism,

JorBR
02-10-2004, 07:50 AM
What I found most interesting was this phrase: "the French Air Force - as well as the US 8th Fighter Command, considered aircraft 'probables' and destroyed 'on the ground' as victories" .

Jerry Scutts, in "Aces of the Mighty Eighth", wrotte that ground kills were considered victories, mostly. I´ve never seen another such quote untill now.

"Never wrestle with a pig; you both get dirty but the pig enjoys it!"

watteville
02-10-2004, 08:00 AM
Yep it's War, it is better to take it with humor though

http://pubstv.mesdiscussions.net/pubstv/Publicite/sujet-732.htm

click on http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif Bouton de droite sauver cible sous

Abel29A
02-10-2004, 08:07 AM
lol watteville... very nice little clip indeed :=)

--

"Wir sehen uns in Walhalla" - Ehrler Heinrich

wayno7777
02-10-2004, 09:08 AM
Interesting, by the way I actually built that model about 25 years ago.

http://server5.uploadit.org/files/wayno77-PCTempest.jpg
http://server5.uploadit.org/files/wayno77-1_72tempests.jpg

Wir greifen an!
Erich 'Bubi' Hartmann


http://server5.uploadit.org/files/wayno77-Hartmann3a.jpg

JorBR
02-10-2004, 11:58 AM
Nice work wayno. No doubt "Le Grand Charles" is one of the most charming WWII aircraft.

"Never wrestle with a pig; you both get dirty but the pig enjoys it!"

Blutarski2004
02-10-2004, 12:26 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JorBR:
What I found most interesting was this phrase: "the French Air Force - as well as the US 8th Fighter Command, considered aircraft 'probables' and destroyed 'on the ground' as victories" .

Jerry Scutts, in "Aces of the Mighty Eighth", wrotte that ground kills were considered victories, mostly. I´ve never seen another such quote untill now.

"Never wrestle with a pig; you both get dirty but the pig enjoys it!"<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


IIRC, air-to-air and ground strafing kills both were originally counted in victory totals by 8AF. Later, however, air-to-air victories were counted alone.

I think that there the book VICTORY ROLL discusses this.

BLUTARSKI

Erbogast-v.K
02-10-2004, 01:17 PM
Hey all

my only advice is to read " the big show " or " Le grand Cirque " by Clostermann, it's one of the most interesting pilot's story I ever read, it's well written;

Just read, then you feel you are in the cockpit of "Le Grand Charles" during a turning fight, look on your mate René Mouchotte (famous french squadron leader) who is face to face with Walter Oesau....et

Good reading and good flight!!!