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XyZspineZyX
10-21-2003, 03:30 AM
<font size=>A couple of months ago I wrote an article about dogfighting online titled "Fighting for your life". I posted it on my website and submitted it for use in the <a href="http://www.simongriffeedesign.com/easternskies/"> <font size=>IL2 Users guide<a/> <font size=>I never really advertised it, I just added it to it in my sig and linked to it when someone asked a question I thought it would answer. Recently I've gotten some very positive feedback about the article and decided to start a thread in case anyone was interested. You can read the article <a href="http://webpages.charter.net/Stick_Fiend/FYLindex.htm"> <font size=>Here<a/> <font size=>and as always there is a link in my sig. I would appreciate any feedback you might have.

In the future I intend to write a similar article about gauges (their history, use, and tips on how to use them).

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<a href="http://webpages.charter.net/Stick_Fiend/X45.htm"> <font size= 1>X45 Profiles<a/>
<a href="http://webpages.charter.net/Stick_Fiend/FYLindex.htm"> <font size= 1>Fighting for Your Life<a/></center>

XyZspineZyX
10-21-2003, 03:30 AM
<font size=>A couple of months ago I wrote an article about dogfighting online titled "Fighting for your life". I posted it on my website and submitted it for use in the <a href="http://www.simongriffeedesign.com/easternskies/"> <font size=>IL2 Users guide<a/> <font size=>I never really advertised it, I just added it to it in my sig and linked to it when someone asked a question I thought it would answer. Recently I've gotten some very positive feedback about the article and decided to start a thread in case anyone was interested. You can read the article <a href="http://webpages.charter.net/Stick_Fiend/FYLindex.htm"> <font size=>Here<a/> <font size=>and as always there is a link in my sig. I would appreciate any feedback you might have.

In the future I intend to write a similar article about gauges (their history, use, and tips on how to use them).

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"I don't think it's quite fair to condemn the whole program because of a single slip up"
<a href="http://webpages.charter.net/Stick_Fiend/"> <font size= 1>Stick_Fiend Home<a/>
<a href="http://webpages.charter.net/Stick_Fiend/X45.htm"> <font size= 1>X45 Profiles<a/>
<a href="http://webpages.charter.net/Stick_Fiend/FYLindex.htm"> <font size= 1>Fighting for Your Life<a/></center>

XyZspineZyX
10-21-2003, 03:39 AM
Visited a few times, good read, Fiend.

Bump.


Lixma,

Blitzpig.

XyZspineZyX
10-21-2003, 04:37 AM
Excelent guide. Thanks!

XyZspineZyX
10-21-2003, 05:29 AM
Excellent, just excellent...


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XyZspineZyX
10-21-2003, 02:38 PM
Too bad half if not all the important links don't work.

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XyZspineZyX
10-21-2003, 03:51 PM
Very good read /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif



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XyZspineZyX
10-21-2003, 03:52 PM
I found this a while ago and I was going to say how good I thought it was. Should be required reading for all new online pilots.

Nice work!

XyZspineZyX
10-21-2003, 05:06 PM
A very good article georgeo76! Thanks a lot - really benefical to us new guys.

However, I now know that I am a BP (Bloodthirsty Pilot). Are there support group meetings for people like me ? /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Seriously, not only do I realize my mistakes (and how those pilots got behind me and shot me down before I even blinked), I hope to now start making the necessary adjustments to my online flying.

Again, thanks for your effort.

P.S. I didn't have any problems with the links as posted by another gamer.

XyZspineZyX
10-21-2003, 05:30 PM
georgio i want to read your site but when i click to
your link the internetscreen drops.

Thats a pitty.

Rotterdam/The Netherlands

XyZspineZyX
10-21-2003, 06:45 PM
Good stuff Georgeo! An easier to understand version of Shaws book!!

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XyZspineZyX
10-21-2003, 10:37 PM
Thanks guys, I'm glad you enjoyed it. I don't understand why some have had difficulty seeing the site. I created it in FrontPage, and perhaps it doesn't work correctly on Netscape or Opera browsers? But I have checked and there are no broken links or other errors (that I can find)

I started writing the article because I wanted to create something that I wasn't able to find when I began flying combat sims. As it says in the article, you can read a lot about real-life combat, but there was nothing devoted to the actual conditions of online dogfighting.

If anyone notices any other errors (in the HTML or the content) you can email me by using my screen name +@hotmail.com.

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"I don't think it's quite fair to condemn the whole program because of a single slip up"
<a href="http://webpages.charter.net/Stick_Fiend/"> <font size= 1>Stick_Fiend Home<a/>
<a href="http://webpages.charter.net/Stick_Fiend/X45.htm"> <font size= 1>X45 Profiles<a/>
<a href="http://webpages.charter.net/Stick_Fiend/FYLindex.htm"> <font size= 1>Fighting for Your Life<a/></center>

XyZspineZyX
10-21-2003, 10:57 PM
Thumbs up from me /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Wish I'd bothered to look earlier /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif





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Hunter82
10-21-2003, 11:05 PM
good read as always stick.......servers up in an hour /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
10-22-2003, 01:57 AM
This is an excellent article. I have printed it out for reference while practicing in QMB.

I can highly recommend this to anyone looking for a dogfighting tutorial.

Thanks georgeo. S!

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XyZspineZyX
10-22-2003, 06:02 AM
Thanks Hunter, I'll have to pass tonight as I'm busy writing a new article on gauges. As of now, I've spent several hours on manifold pressure alone, gezz it's like gravity, Just because it's a simple concept and you understand it, don't mean you can explain it well /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif


Hunter82 wrote:
- good read as always stick.......servers up in an
- hour




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"I don't think it's quite fair to condemn the whole program because of a single slip up"
<a href="http://webpages.charter.net/Stick_Fiend/"> <font size= 1>Stick_Fiend Home<a/>
<a href="http://webpages.charter.net/Stick_Fiend/X45.htm"> <font size= 1>X45 Profiles<a/>
<a href="http://webpages.charter.net/Stick_Fiend/FYLindex.htm"> <font size= 1>Fighting for Your Life<a/></center>

XyZspineZyX
10-22-2003, 10:32 AM
Hey I've printed it too and have it next to my IL2 Manual!!

Can you believe that yesterday I could make a run with three landings-take off's an one kill 'till I got shot down by a Vulcher while taking off by the fourt time? I was able to support my team mates (cleared a couple mates six, without killing, but damaging the enemy, in some cases but my mates lived to tell about it)and run away and survive to 3 Bf109 for almost 5 minutes!!! with your adviced maneuvres!! An d if i tell you than the day before yesterday i was about to quit this game because was tired of get shot down after 3 milliseconds?! I really Thank you man! Great Article. When you pubblish another please let me know /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Regards.

Mesh.

XyZspineZyX
10-22-2003, 12:25 PM
Unless i'm missing something.. There's no section explaining the terms you use..

ie. Yo-yos, Split S's, Immelman..

I know what these are myself, but I'm sure many will not. Comprehension of these terms is pre-supposed and without full knowledge of them; the text is confusing..

Maybe more diagrams would help.

Other than that.. Good Job /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
10-23-2003, 08:26 AM
I agree with nixon-fiend. I didn't know many of those maneuvres, but is also true that they are very well illustrated in the IL2 Sturmovik manual, so I've studied them from there. I mean, not a 100% necessary, but your document with the add of those diagrams will be perfect /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Regards.

Mesh.

XyZspineZyX
10-23-2003, 09:58 AM
Thanks Georgeo it's a good read, I can already see some of the mistakes I've made in the few times I've ventured on-line.

XyZspineZyX
10-23-2003, 07:11 PM
Very useful Georgeo - particularly the part about dictating your own engagement - how and when etc..

I tried it tonight and it makes such a difference over just picking the first target you see and charging in! Maybe it'll make a "thinking pilot" out of me yet....

Like some of the others mention, I don't know the names of some of the maneuvers you mention - but then I guess I should read the manual!

XyZspineZyX
10-23-2003, 07:48 PM
Two thumbs up from me.../i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif In fact i liked it so much I am going to put it on my site when I get the time in the new required reading page as yet to be made.../i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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XyZspineZyX
10-23-2003, 08:37 PM
I like the way you focussed on the bloody/thinking pilot distinction... as you say, most of us start out as BPs and then start to think and act more strategically- your guide concisely sets out how to do so.

I think nixon-fiend's point about little illustrations is a good one (to show what a high yoyo vs. low yoyo etc...)

All in all, a nicely written and thought out piece,
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XyZspineZyX
10-24-2003, 10:09 PM
Page 3?

a little bumpage for the noobs /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif



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