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XyZspineZyX
11-09-2003, 05:47 AM
Now I know why I don't fly online very much. I have the 1.2 beta and took off in an A6M5 Zero to do battle with the bad guys. Got jumped by a P47 and did a hard break.You know that hulk of a 47 easily turned inside my nimble fighter and blew me to pieces. Yeah right.

XyZspineZyX
11-09-2003, 05:47 AM
Now I know why I don't fly online very much. I have the 1.2 beta and took off in an A6M5 Zero to do battle with the bad guys. Got jumped by a P47 and did a hard break.You know that hulk of a 47 easily turned inside my nimble fighter and blew me to pieces. Yeah right.

Tully__
11-09-2003, 06:14 AM
How fast were you? How high?
How fast was he?
At what range was he when you broke?
Did he flat turn or yo-yo?

Depending on the circumstances it is conceivable that what he did was perfectly reasonable.

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XyZspineZyX
11-09-2003, 06:17 AM
come on

the A6 in here can out turn a p47 no problem



looks like you just messed up


you go zoomed and blasted by eight 50s

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XyZspineZyX
11-09-2003, 06:43 AM
Sounds like a good P-47 pilot cut inside your turn. Sounds like he was a good deflection shooter. And he was flying a P-47 on an online server (another piece of evidence that he had skill).

XyZspineZyX
11-09-2003, 08:34 AM
LOL !!!

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XyZspineZyX
11-09-2003, 09:00 AM
Hey! There goes one of those skilled P-47 pilots right there!

Here is the deal dragonhart...

He was coming almost stright down on top of you. He watched your turn and anticipated it and was able to keep his nose in front of your turn. Then he just opens up with the 50's and rakes you.


I don't know who it was, but if Locust is laughing because it was him, he's damn good at BnZ.

Sounds like you got beat because you didn't know how to properly defend against an attack like that. Don't come in here with your "CHEATERS PLAY ONLINE" mantra when it is obvious to everyone with some expereince that you just got beat. Learn from it to get better. Don't accuse pilots of cheating just because you know a turn ratio of a plane. That sounds ignorant.

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XyZspineZyX
11-09-2003, 09:11 AM
got a track to prove it http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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11-09-2003, 09:14 AM
A P-47 turned tighter then you in a Zero? /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

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XyZspineZyX
11-09-2003, 09:54 AM
Might be lag as well....

XyZspineZyX
11-09-2003, 10:43 AM
dragonhart38 wrote:
- Now I know why I don't fly online very much.

Maybe you should play online more and stop thinking human pilots are going to react like AI.
I get shot down loads online. mostly due to my mistakes and some very good pilots who I couldnt shoot down what ever plane I was in.
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A poor workman always blames his tools /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif


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XyZspineZyX
11-09-2003, 02:34 PM
He he. It seems hard to believe, but it happened every day in the Pacific. USAAF won the Pacific Air War, but none of USAAF fighters could turn with a Zero.

The secret is:

BnZ, BnZ, BnZ...!

That's the lacking of this game's AI. Even if they hit and run, they always do something stupid that put themselves into the slow plane gunsight.

Zero's feeble structure has no chance against P-47's eight .50s, just a clever bounce, an aiming of a fraction of a second, and BOOM.

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XyZspineZyX
11-09-2003, 03:20 PM
YOU are right !!!!!
He was cheating

and heres how

1 first he used the ive got more altitude than you cheat

2 then he used the I know what this guy is going to do cheat

3 then he used the I know my gun sight cheat

4 then he used the I know where my guns converge at cheat

5 then he used the I know where the zero is most veverable cheat

6 and last but not least he used the zoom for altitude to wait on the next newbe yo yo to show up cheat

XyZspineZyX
11-09-2003, 04:28 PM
planes with a high turnrate are shot down in the thousands every night at HL cuz they think they can use a sustained horizontal turn to escape ... they cant !

a plane like the P47 or Bf109 will turn while diving or climbing ... nullifying the "advantage" of yaks/zeros/ratas etc. totally - they will pull lead on the plane and deflection shoot it - pull up and when swooping down...will set up the attack angle .... turnrates are for biplanes http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

XyZspineZyX
11-09-2003, 05:34 PM
I think I've been killed by that'47 pilot.

Actually I think I've been killed by them all. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

I find those who fly them on-line are pretty good pilots...not an easy bird to fly well.

Probably you just got whacked by a good pilot.

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XyZspineZyX
11-09-2003, 07:24 PM
Yes your right I got whacked by a much superior pilot. Guess I need some more practice.

By the way is Hyperlobby the most popular online site for IL2 FB?


jensenpark wrote:
- I think I've been killed by that'47 pilot.
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- Actually I think I've been killed by them all. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif -
- I find those who fly them on-line are pretty good
- pilots...not an easy bird to fly well.
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- Probably you just got whacked by a good pilot.
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Message Edited on 11/09/0301:33PM by dragonhart38

XyZspineZyX
11-09-2003, 07:28 PM
Woa I never accused anybody of cheating read my post. Don't accuse people of such things if can't read english properly.

Crash_Man wrote:

-
- Sounds like you got beat because you didn't know how
- to properly defend against an attack like that.
- Don't come in here with your "CHEATERS PLAY ONLINE"
- mantra when it is obvious to everyone with some
- expereince that you just got beat. Learn from it to
- get better. Don't accuse pilots of cheating just
- because you know a turn ratio of a plane. That
- sounds ignorant.
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XyZspineZyX
11-09-2003, 07:31 PM
Are you referring to me as a yo yo?


BPO6_PANP wrote:
- YOU are right !!!!!
- He was cheating
-
- and heres how
-
- 1 first he used the ive got more altitude than you
- cheat
-
- 2 then he used the I know what this guy is going to
- do cheat
-
- 3 then he used the I know my gun sight cheat
-
- 4 then he used the I know where my guns converge at
- cheat
-
- 5 then he used the I know where the zero is most
- veverable cheat
-
- 6 and last but not least he used the zoom for
- altitude to wait on the next newbe yo yo to show up
- cheat
-
-

XyZspineZyX
11-09-2003, 07:35 PM
At high speeds P47 will outmaneuver the Zero, because the Zero compresses badly. Hellcats used this to their advantage as well. Same for Fw 190s vs Spits, also at high speeds.

Gotta love those TnB newbies whining /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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XyZspineZyX
11-09-2003, 07:35 PM
dragonhart38 wrote:
- Woa I never accused anybody of cheating read my
- post. Don't accuse people of such things if can't
- read english properly.
-


You accusations were certainly implied by your sarcastic remarks. Thats as good as a straight accusation.

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XyZspineZyX
11-09-2003, 07:40 PM
In what world....! Hey its just a game.

Who dares wins! Who cares who wins!

Happy hunting and check six!

Tony Ascaso, RN

XyZspineZyX
11-09-2003, 07:41 PM
dragonhart38 wrote:
- By the way is Hyperlobby the most popular online
- site for IL2 FB?


Probably, It has the best pilots by far.

Fly more online and learn, it is so much more fun than the AIs.

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XyZspineZyX
11-09-2003, 08:06 PM
Thanks El. I will do that.

D.
ElAurens wrote:
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- dragonhart38 wrote:
-- By the way is Hyperlobby the most popular online
-- site for IL2 FB?
-
-
- Probably, It has the best pilots by far.
-
- Fly more online and learn, it is so much more fun
- than the AIs.
-
- /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif -
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- src="http://old.jccc.net/~droberts/p40/images/p40h
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- "All men dream, but not equally. Those who dream by
- night in the dusty recesses of their minds, wake in
- the day that it was vanity:
- but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for
- they may act on their dreams with open eyes, to make
- them possible. "
- --T.E. Lawrence
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XyZspineZyX
11-09-2003, 08:07 PM
Join a team, fly online, get better, and have fun!

To me, online multiplayer is what it is all about. It's much more stimulating than single player to me because of the interaction, team work, camaraderie, and skill. Flying online has taught me to be a much better pilot. If I fly against a QMB 16 plane flight, using unlimted ammo, I can down most, if not all, the AI enemy on my own. And I am hardly a top rated pilot online. (Those that have flown against me can atest to that! lol)

So, get out there, learn, have fun.

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XyZspineZyX
11-09-2003, 08:11 PM
dragonhart38 wrote:
- Now I know why I don't fly online very much. I have
- the 1.2 beta and took off in an A6M5 Zero to do
- battle with the bad guys. Got jumped by a P47 and
- did a hard break.You know that hulk of a 47 easily
- turned inside my nimble fighter and blew me to
- pieces. Yeah right.


ROFL. What's next? Flying pink elephants? What is described above is flatly impossible. You're recollection of the events is probably incomplete, and certainly incorrect. IOW - what you thought happened didn't, because it's not possible.

XyZspineZyX
11-09-2003, 08:12 PM
Hristos wrote:
- At high speeds P47 will outmaneuver the Zero,
- because the Zero compresses badly. Hellcats used
- this to their advantage as well. Same for Fw 190s vs
- Spits, also at high speeds.

Only IRL Hristos, not in FB. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

XyZspineZyX
11-09-2003, 08:44 PM
BlitzPig_DDT wrote:
- Only IRL Hristos, not in FB.

How true. But is is a beta...We can only hope for correct Zero FMs in the release. Of course the P40 and P47 STILL are not correct.....

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XyZspineZyX
11-09-2003, 09:47 PM
Hi,

Never mind that. The other day, I farted in my cockpit and couldn't open the canopy. I used nearly all my O2 waiting for it to disperse.

They ought to fix the bloomin' canopies before the FMs - believe me.

s!

Norris