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bitter1
02-21-2004, 12:51 PM
everytime i fly the fw-190 i just cant fly it. I really want to use it because it's fast and strong and i want to branch out instead of using the bf-109 or the A6M5 Zero. Please help.

bitter1
02-21-2004, 12:51 PM
everytime i fly the fw-190 i just cant fly it. I really want to use it because it's fast and strong and i want to branch out instead of using the bf-109 or the A6M5 Zero. Please help.

Irish_JG26
02-21-2004, 01:34 PM
First, what are you using it for? If it is flying round and round in circles in the dogfight rooms, be advised, the FW190 is not the hottest dogfighter in the world. Even aces have trouble flying the 190 one on one with most of the other planes. There are those in here that do know how to DF the 190 well. Talk to the Redwulfs or some of our other JG26 aces for best tactics.

As a Dogfighter it is ok at best and is really only best employed in a team setting where you can call for help and have your wingman bag the Yak on your six. The 190 is best at high speed slashing attacks from above and takes more skill and patience than most to master.

The 190 is an awesome gun platform with great firepower and is tough to boot. Fly it as you would any energy fighter. Keep speed high and avoid pulling back hard on the stick or you will bleed energy too fast of result in a high speed stall or both.

Be patient as this bird climbs slower than most. Get above your quarry and then throttle back to at least 85% or a bit less, build up speed and close the radiator, trim it out so that it is not gaining altitude at 400+ kph. Dive on the target from the high rear quarter if it is a B17 or from directly above if it is a fighter. Close to less than 200 meters to fire and then use all the guns. Few planes can take such an attack.

Be careful to not collide since the closing speed is high and once past the shoot point break off with an aileron roll to shield your pilot from enemy gunners. Keep speed high, engage WEP (optional) and climp up to repeat.

If attacked use speed to escape and your aileron roll capacity. If in deep doo doo, I will sometimes pull hard back on the stick and intentionally pull into a high speed stall which usually causes the attacker to over-shoot. The risk here is that if you are too slow and or too low, you could end up in a flat spin and this is very difficult to recover from. You can, but even ace pilots will crash doing this from time to time. Save it for last resort.

Learn to fly closed cockpit. Once you get comfortable with this, it is an advantage. As with any activity where skill is important, practice is the best thing to do. Fly the opposition aircraft against the AI 190 and observe what works and does not work. Then get in the 190 and use tactics which favor your strengths and capitalize on the weakness of your enemy.

Fly one on one against the Vet or ace level AI and learn from their moves. Then move in on the human pilots. Fly coops to learn how to really employ the planes as they were intended. Check out www.forgottenskies.com (http://www.forgottenskies.com) for full real virtual war campaign experience. Thsi is not for the timid or the inexperienced as frustration and death await the ill prepared. However, the great thing about a SIM is you can screw the pooch and still live to tell about it. The best way to boost the learning curve is to fly with the best.

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Willey
02-21-2004, 01:36 PM
Don't turn. Climb and be higher than your enemy. Run down to him, pour some bullets into him and then climb up again. If you miss, do it again and again. Just keep your altitude and speed (=energy) high. By turning, you will decrease your energy. If you've someone at your six, dive. The FW does that quite well. Don't dive too long. Either level out, or climb at a shallow angle, max ~20? which is approx the sustained climb angle. You will loose least energy then. If you've problems with overheating, open the radiators completely. You will be able to fly with 110% (+ WEP) much longer then at the cost of ~20-30km/h topspeed. If you just need that bit of speed, close them.

Bremspropeller
02-21-2004, 01:40 PM
The easiest rule is


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VW-IceFire
02-21-2004, 02:36 PM
Yup...stay fast and quick and use that roll rate to your advantage. If you don't have altitude advantage then its going to be a REALLY tough fight.

Don't be heavy on the controls either. The FW190 is big and fast but treat it will alot of careful movement.

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Hunde_3.JG51
02-21-2004, 03:04 PM
Me and some others wrote this up awhile ago, it is quite comprehensive. I hope it helps.

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Maple_Tiger
02-21-2004, 03:22 PM
Thanks for the link Hunde or Kyrule2.

I to like the FW190 and i am trying to lern how to fly it. My gunnery is not very good sometimes because im not use to its roll rate.

I realy stink when it comes to being defensive. I just dont realy know how do use the scissors to my advantage. I guess practice is the only way though. Any way ill check i out that link as well and lern something.

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waterinthefuel
02-22-2004, 01:58 AM
This is not a bug topic that Oleg needs to see. This shouldn't be in ORR, this should be in general discussion.

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