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Deathdrawn
06-20-2017, 06:18 AM
Title.

Centurion absolutely ruins the game for everyone else. You can either keep the game un-enjoyable for everyone that plays every character but Centurion, or you can ban Centurion temporarily and ruin it for only the people who play Centurion. Honestly I'm astounded Centurion got through as is, and I'm glad that you're addressing how broken he is, but something needs to be done now.

dragon7jdc
06-20-2017, 07:23 AM
I would like that. ITS not fair to them. but its for our peace of mind

agentpoop
06-20-2017, 07:47 AM
I haven't played the game in a couple weeks now, it just got tiresome having to watch a cutscene character kill me and hit me with broken tracking. I can still win more often than not but it just felt like a chore since I had to use every ounce of skill I had while other players could just spam the cheapest characters and get an easy kill. They honestly need to fix this character like now, no more needing data or waiting for non pass holders. I don't have a pass and when I got my 15,000 currency I got Shinobi. And because of the frustration of the game I haven't been back so I'm likely not going to get the Cent, I'm probably not the only person like this. They have enough data by now, I'm starting to think they don't know how to fix him.

Honestly, just remove his features. Have his hits either stun or be unblockable or take stamina but not both and definitely not combined as one ability. You shouldn't be able to string together unblockables like him or stun or knockdown as easily as he does. No other character can do both those things with such minimal effort , if you want him to knock people down fine then take away his leaping attack. If you want him to stun fine but don't link it with a knockdown. It's literally the moves they gave him don't work in a fair fighting environment. His biggest issue is when he goes into this cutscene and youre getting stunned knocked down and hit all the time you lose all your stamina and he loses hardly any of his. Maybe if he was just as tired as you after all those hits it wouldn't be so bad. But you're tired and stunned and he hasnt broken a sweat so you can't counter very quickly. He has the stamina of a cross country runner, the boxing ability of Andre Ward, the leaping ability of Lebron James and he has broken tracking.

He just is not fair for anyone and he is so commonly used. How can he be the best offensive character in the game by far and not have any discernible weakness on defense? I'm fine with Shinobi on offense being super hard to defend because his defense is so so weak. But the Cent has nothing you can point to as a clear weakness that offsets his offensive ability. I keep checking the forums hoping to hear something good about balance and I know there will always be people complaining but so long as its a new complaint every time I know the game is at least changing and trying to fix things. But it's just the same thing constantly which makes it so clear nothing is being fixed. And so many other games out there fix their issues so quickly while it feels like Ubisoft takes forever to do anything. Just do something! Anything! Just take a risk and see if it fixes the issue otherwise the issue won't be gameplay, it will be no more players.

agentpoop
06-20-2017, 08:09 AM
Another move idea for him is to remove his charged heavy unblockable. He and Shugoki are the only two guys with a heavy attacks that can be charged into and unblockable, but Shugoki cant really combo with his. He just has to start swinging practically from a standstill which gives the opponent some time to adjust. However the Cent can do his charge up in middle of an assault, this gives the Cent an unfair timing advantage that no other character has or has the tools to consistently counter. If the move had no charge up feature which means it operated with the same timing everytime like a normal heavy that would fix a lot about his unstoppable assault. It could operate either as just a quicker heavy which is still cool or a consistent unblockable that just comes out a little slower than other heavies. But it has to be one or the other. That consistency would allow people to adapt to his moves and actually engage in a fair fight. Part of the reason people can't escape him ,other than having no stamina and being stunned all the time, is that his moves seem to have no consistent timing or tracking. Perhaps simplifying how that heavy stab works would fix some of the tracking problems since it would have some consistency to it?

XxHunterHxX
06-20-2017, 08:40 AM
"soon"

The_B0G_
06-20-2017, 01:27 PM
It's not as bad as it used to be because more people are going back to their other heroes that they played pre season 2, but it's still pretty frustrating getting smashed by two centurions at once. If they are even half decent that the game, you have no chance.

rossato2109
06-20-2017, 01:34 PM
Agree, the moment you got two centurions in dominion or skimirsh the match is pretty much over.

SirCorrino
06-20-2017, 01:35 PM
If they won't nerf him because they care more about his 1v1 viability than the health of the game this would be a good band-aid fix until they get their collective heads out of their a**es and realize they've spent too long on trying to fix him without affecting 1v1 and at this point just have to nerf him, 1v1 be damned. Every day they fail to address this issue more players are turned away and they are less and less likely to return.

The_B0G_
06-20-2017, 01:43 PM
If they won't nerf him because they care more about his 1v1 viability than the health of the game this would be a good band-aid fix until they get their collective heads out of their a**es and realize they've spent too long on trying to fix him without affecting 1v1 and at this point just have to nerf him, 1v1 be damned. Every day they fail to address this issue more players are turned away and they are less and less likely to return.

Its not an easy fix to change him in 4v4 without ruining him 1v1, in 1v1 he's mediocre at best. I have no idea how they will do it besides a Brawl style hero lock.

SirCorrino
06-20-2017, 02:52 PM
Its not an easy fix to change him in 4v4 without ruining him 1v1, in 1v1 he's mediocre at best. I have no idea how they will do it besides a Brawl style hero lock.

I know, and what I'm saying is that if they haven't figured out a way to do that yet, they need to bite the bullet and nerf him anyway. And then buff him later via incremental changes. His 1v1 viability is not more important than the overall health of the game in 4v4.

kbvlcvfkhgc
06-20-2017, 02:52 PM
You know that feeling when the matchmaking throws you up against a team with more than one Centurion, yea that , oh FFS? again? really? i don't even smoke and this fuc*^%g Cancer follows me everywhere,

i don't even bother any more, game starts, straight to Scoreboard , Block Player, block player, block player , quit, don't have to deal with the cheap cheat gankey bastards anymore, let them all play together and spam their unblockable **** on each other till the cows come home,

If Ubisoft refuse to deal with this cancer then i guess we have to do it ourselves, Fu*k em, block every Centurion you come across, cut that Cancer out my friends.

The_B0G_
06-20-2017, 03:34 PM
Blocking only blocks communications I thought.

Blasto95
06-20-2017, 03:53 PM
It should, Overwatch ran into this issue where people were blocking really good players, causing them to have 10+min ques 2 weeks after OW released. They fixed that relatively quick.

It should just block communications, not from actually playing with the player. You can however "avoid this player" on Xbox and I wonder how much that would do.

kbvlcvfkhgc
06-20-2017, 03:59 PM
really?

well don't i feel silly now?

i guess I've been wasting my time then, still, i can just keep quitting matches full of the Centurion Toxins until Ubisoft finally "gather enough data" to do something?

JibletHunter
06-20-2017, 04:13 PM
The irony is the treatment of shinobi v the treatment of centurion. I played both and found the shinobi to be strong pre-nerf but extremely fragile. The cent is a monster in 4's (an in my opinion 1's) with a very accessible, high damage kit. Shinbi gets his stam costs quadrupled, his 50/50 removed, and the armor on his kick reduced (when his kick was always react-able on dodge). The just dodge applied to cent as well, but he remained untouched FOR TWO PATCHES AND THE GAME DIED. So enjoy getting light parried for 80+ damage (without gear or revenge with unlock tech), Fix your **** Ubi. Step 1: fire Roman.

DT1_Hussar
06-20-2017, 04:27 PM
kbvlcvfkhgc man, you're so right... I play since saturday, and all i see in Dominion is ... (drums) ...<wait for it> ... Yes! You all are correct! wave after wave of Centurions! ... 3, 4 ,5 Centurions per game, and it is absolutely ridiculous to go against one right now, with his never ending stamina draining spam festiwal - where when you make one single mistake and get into the spam loop, you end up with +-70% hp down + no stamina, opened for next "spamcombo". Wheren you're alone against two of them "spammers", you can only sit back, and watch s*** happens

Also, i've noticed, that when i hit Revenge every other pawn will be pushed back to the ground, aside from Centurion, who stands and hits like nothing has happened - i don't know if this is a bug or a char. perk., but it's also stupid as hitting R leaves you open to Centurion hits.

Ubisoft must do something with this situation, as ppl starting to dislike Cents more and more - and its not only me, or you. Before a round begins, in the chat window, i can see lots of messages like: "Good luck and have fun all. F*** off centurions" etc.

If fixed, i think Centurion himself will be a great addition to the game. I own a season pass, but i will not play him util they fix him properly - for now it's simply not fun, and lots of grudge from players.

ShadowStepped
06-20-2017, 05:01 PM
I agree completely. I unlocked the Centurion for one match and destroyed the other team in dominion. Centurion is a cancer i do not care what anyone else says because i have heard it all before. Well git good, learn to fight him by his moves, jesus man just dodge. While these statements from others are entertaining to me, it isn't that easy especially in dominion. I will be waiting for a match and across the screen i see we are gonna face warlod, orochi, valk, and any tank take your pick. I look at my team and I see myself who is a rep 19 orochi, and 2 cents pop up on the screen and I am like yep were gonna win this one. It shouldnt be this way but it is. They ruin so many games of 4v4 and 2v2 as far as i am concerned.To be honest, I have no hope that they are going to fix this mess or anything for that matter. The people who call the shots in for honor are obviously related to IT Specialist Gump. They just write a bunch of bad ideas throw them in a hat, close their eyes, pick one and roll with it. I can hear another person saying, "would'nt that make it worse"? The devs are silent for a sec and say yeah but it will give us time to fix our last "fix". i assume they believe they have an unlimited amount of time to correct everything. This has been the most patient community i have ever seen even though there isnt much of a choice. You guys see the last Warriors Den? It was a f c king joke. Just us watching a bunch of crap we do not care about while they try to figure out how to drag it out and hour was fuc king cringe worthy.