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XyZspineZyX
08-13-2003, 06:52 PM
Not whining here - just want some help.

Since the patch, others around here have mentioned about the reduction in climb rate for the 109s. In an Emil, its practically gone.

Trying to climb at 100% pitch, 2800-2900RPM, Rad. 2 (or Closed) - and my IAS is hovering a little over 220.

Pre-patch I could meet enemy head-on, pull up hard, get enough altitude, flip over, and BnZ the Russian until he burned.

Now I slowly climb a little, before rolling over to get some airspeed, I end up stalling or spinning out, and lose all height advantage and E advantage over the bandit.

Whenever I pick up any amount of airspeed (close to 300 IAS) my RPMs are tacking out at over 3000-3100 and then engine just cuts out (makes that horrible sickly sound).

I'm sure this is more accurate, but where is the climbing advantage the 109s used to have? I get worked by a Mig-3 offline.

Again, not whining, just wanted to get some help...

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XyZspineZyX
08-13-2003, 06:52 PM
Not whining here - just want some help.

Since the patch, others around here have mentioned about the reduction in climb rate for the 109s. In an Emil, its practically gone.

Trying to climb at 100% pitch, 2800-2900RPM, Rad. 2 (or Closed) - and my IAS is hovering a little over 220.

Pre-patch I could meet enemy head-on, pull up hard, get enough altitude, flip over, and BnZ the Russian until he burned.

Now I slowly climb a little, before rolling over to get some airspeed, I end up stalling or spinning out, and lose all height advantage and E advantage over the bandit.

Whenever I pick up any amount of airspeed (close to 300 IAS) my RPMs are tacking out at over 3000-3100 and then engine just cuts out (makes that horrible sickly sound).

I'm sure this is more accurate, but where is the climbing advantage the 109s used to have? I get worked by a Mig-3 offline.

Again, not whining, just wanted to get some help...

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XyZspineZyX
08-13-2003, 07:11 PM
IIRC best sustained climb for an emil is 300-350 kph.

XyZspineZyX
08-13-2003, 07:17 PM
Your just used to the completely over modeled pre patch Emil.

Tip..Keep the rpm at 2500, and you won't hear that sicky sound../i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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XyZspineZyX
08-13-2003, 07:28 PM
Yes, and does anyone noticed that the Emil can barely get passed 420 Kph at most height with rad closed ??

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XyZspineZyX
08-13-2003, 07:31 PM
hello!

Learn to use combat flaps because they work now http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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XyZspineZyX
08-13-2003, 07:40 PM
Yes! AI Email just barely outclimbs I~16, with Email pulling out in front horizontally. Both have been Reduced in climb!! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif . This is what I was hoping for. A little early to say this, but there seems to be more consistency...just an unjustified feeling.

More AI tests:: Starting from 500m @ 400km/h , La~7 outclimbs Fb109K but about 6000m 109K catches altitude and reaches 9km first. This is amazing.

XyZspineZyX
08-13-2003, 07:42 PM
Emil is very slow and has a small fueltank.

In climb all Me109 suffered.There is an advantage,but it`s not so big anymore.I noticed you just have to lookout what you do with energy.In 1.0 you could dump a lot of it and still climb away.


VVS have chances nnow.

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XyZspineZyX
08-13-2003, 07:52 PM
The hurricane models and emil models seem to be a very descent fight now however the mig3us seem to crush both now very easily even with good energy management pilots


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XyZspineZyX
08-13-2003, 08:03 PM
Well,

I seem to recal that the Emil (E-4) had a top speed of between 560 & 570 Km/h, which is not "very slow" as far as I know.

Hawker Hurricane MKII @ about 525 km/h could be considered relatively slow for 1941.

My 2 cents

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