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knightflyte
04-01-2004, 01:13 AM
I was flying my beloved P-38 last night and was booming an He 111. (I love doing that!)
I totally destroyed the He 111 and was coming out of my dive to get my height advantage back when all of a sudden. BAM!
A wheel from the He 111 hit me in the left nacelle, knocking my engine off.
I thought WOW...... then I was pi$$ed (the frikkin 111 got me in it's last gasp of life!)..... then I marvelled at the detail in this game.
How cool is this sim?...........
The funny thing was I saw it coming in SLOW MOTION........like as experienced in real life and said to myself RUT ROO! I expected the worse, but just had the engine tore out.
I got 2 more kills before heading back home.

knightflyte
04-01-2004, 01:13 AM
I was flying my beloved P-38 last night and was booming an He 111. (I love doing that!)
I totally destroyed the He 111 and was coming out of my dive to get my height advantage back when all of a sudden. BAM!
A wheel from the He 111 hit me in the left nacelle, knocking my engine off.
I thought WOW...... then I was pi$$ed (the frikkin 111 got me in it's last gasp of life!)..... then I marvelled at the detail in this game.
How cool is this sim?...........
The funny thing was I saw it coming in SLOW MOTION........like as experienced in real life and said to myself RUT ROO! I expected the worse, but just had the engine tore out.
I got 2 more kills before heading back home.

LEXX_Luthor
04-01-2004, 01:18 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>RUT ROO!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>hehe thanks for sharing that one.

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SeaFireLIV
04-01-2004, 01:21 AM
Yep. It`s these little details that really MAKES FB.

ELEM
04-01-2004, 01:48 AM
You had an engine completly ripped off but were able to make 2 more kills before returning home! Please tell me you were in arcade mode? How likely would that scenario be in RL? The P-38 would be unflyable minus 1 engine!

I wouldn't join any club that would have ME as member!

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porcupine1
04-01-2004, 01:54 AM
the p-38 is completly flyable with only one engine in real life! check this site http://www.zenoswarbirdvideos.com/P38.html and watch the 1940s training video

SeaFireLIV
04-01-2004, 02:29 AM
Quote: "About the only significant short coming of the Lightning was spin/.stall recovery, which could be a bear, especially at low altitude. That's is why this film cautions strongly against entering a spin below 10,000', Tom McGuire, intent on surpassing leading ace **** Bong, lost his life when he attempted to mix up it up at low altitude with a Japanese Ki-43 "Oscar" while still retaining his drop tanks (!) and augured in after an accelerated stall in a tight turn".

Interesting. Lost his life just to get a better score? That was R\L, not HL. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif He must`ve been incredibly over-confident.

ELEM
04-01-2004, 02:30 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by porcupine1:
the p-38 is completly flyable with only one engine in real life! check this site http://www.zenoswarbirdvideos.com/P38.html and watch the 1940s training video<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I can't watch the videos as I'm at work. I'm guessing they show that the P-38 can be flown with one engine idled/stopped and blades feathered. knightflyte said he had an engine "Knocked off" not just stopped. Yes, the P-38 is flyable on one engine, it would be a requirement of service entry. Even then the pilot wouldn't be in any position to continue combat flying. Now, flyable with a engine MISSING!! That's a whole different ball game. That's catastrophic damage.

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Bluedog72
04-01-2004, 03:02 AM
I was flying with a mate one night in P47s, we attacked some airfield, and both of us took dammage from the AAA.
My Jug had a hole in the wing, and a grey trail streaming out behind.
I immediately thought it was fuel, and started to worry about making it home. Then figured that fuel leaks allways seem white, so it was probably coolant...checked the temp gauges, no probs. Hmmm, mebbe it was oil?,...nope, oil pressure was constant and in the green.
I figured it was just a flashy bit of graphic trickery to make the plane look damaged....then I went to land.
No reaction whatsoever from the gear, tried a few times, nix, nada, not a sausage, hydraulics gone.
Franticly hit the 'Manual Gear Down' key, and jacked the gear down.
I just thought that those kinds of little details are immensely cool http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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Bad-Gerbil
04-01-2004, 03:42 AM
Last night while flying the hurri - I'd knocked this 109 around with my cannon and the 109 was doing wonderful cartwheels in front of me, clockwise. One more cannon shell hit the opposite wing and it suddenly started spinning the other way - amazing!

BG

73GIAP_Milan
04-01-2004, 06:11 AM
http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> I was flying with a mate one night in P47s, we attacked some airfield, and both of us took dammage from the AAA.
My Jug had a hole in the wing, and a grey trail streaming out behind.
I immediately thought it was fuel, and started to worry about making it home. Then figured that fuel leaks allways seem white, so it was probably coolant...checked the temp gauges, no probs. Hmmm, mebbe it was oil?,...nope, oil pressure was constant and in the green.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> FYI m8, the P47 did'nt have any COOLANT...it had/has an AIRCOOLED Radial Engine... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif So, if anythin leaks in a Jug, its FUEL, Oil or Hydraulics...

That kinda made me think of CFS1 and 2's damage profiles...where the ******* MS programmers gave the P47 a nice "COOLANT RESERVOIR"-part in the DamageProfile, so..i was a huge P47 fan and nicely blew everything up, got hit myself and my engine wonderfully seized up by coolant loss http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/blink.gif

Let's hope that such a thing is NOT incorporated in the IL2/FB P47's DM.. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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michapma
04-01-2004, 06:37 AM
CFS2's P-47? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/blink.gif


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TgD Thunderbolt56
04-01-2004, 06:51 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by knightflyte:
I was flying my beloved P-38 last night.... knocking my engine off.
...but just had the engine tore out.
I got 2 more kills before heading back home.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>



2 more kills in a P-38 AFTER having your engine ripped off? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/11.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/34.gif



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chris455
04-01-2004, 06:57 AM
I reported this only a day or 2 after AEP was released in the US.
He's not saying that the engine simply wasn't running; rather, the engine was ripped out of it's nacelle.
A P-38 MAY fly under such conditions, but it would be a rare pilot indeed that would be able to nurse a ship in such conditions home.
It can be regarded as a bug, and should be fixed.

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73GIAP_Milan
04-01-2004, 07:14 AM
http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>CFS2's P-47? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

YESSS ! a downloaded one from AVHISTORY.ORG an 1% Aircraft DPfile with an AIRCOOLED RADIAL containing a coolant reservoir...*******es...i got so annoyed by it, i redid the entire DP file and made a GOOD Jug out of that crap one..the original was like a Zero, on fire after a single hit sometimes..my DP file made that P47 live up it's name..(but NOT overdone..i made it more as is said in all the articles on the '47, Robust and Sturdy http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif)


And for CFS1; same thing here..DPfile for the Jug contains a Coolant Reservoir..made by MS darned how those idiots over there can screw things up...

Regards,

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ELEM
04-01-2004, 07:15 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by chris455:
I reported this only a day or 2 after AEP was released in the US.
He's not saying that the engine simply wasn't running; rather, the engine was ripped out of it's nacelle.
A P-38 MAY fly under such conditions, but it would be a rare pilot indeed that would be able to nurse a ship in such conditions home.
It can be regarded as a bug, and should be fixed.

http://members.cox.net/miataman1/P47.jpg <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Geez! Isn't this what I've said twice already!! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

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Bearcat99
04-01-2004, 07:18 AM
Why wouldnt it be at least flyable...... Ive seen pictures of planes that flew home with half a wing.... or no stabilizer.... it isny as bizzare as you might think. There was an Israeli F-16 pilot who landed his F-16 (maybe it was an F-15) on one wing.... ONE WING.... you armchair aeronautical engineers kill me.

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ELEM
04-01-2004, 08:01 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Bearcat99:
Why wouldnt it be at least flyable...... Ive seen pictures of planes that flew home with half a wing.... or no stabilizer.... it isny as bizzare as you might think. There was an Israeli F-16 pilot who landed his F-16 (maybe it was an F-15) on one wing.... ONE WING.... you armchair aeronautical engineers kill me.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'm not an armchair aeronautical engineer, I AM an aeronautical engineer!! What I'm trying to point out is how UNLIKELY in RL it is that a P-38 pilot would be able to make 2 MORE kills AND fly home after that sort of damage. I'm well aware of the incidents you mention and they dont prove one way or the other that this feat is possible.

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michapma
04-01-2004, 08:01 AM
Pretty sure it was an F-15. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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Agamemnon22
04-01-2004, 08:10 AM
I think my most harrowing mission was many years back in US Navy Fighters. I was in an F-14 escorting a package of F-18's striking some Russian shipping at night. Kept the Hornets clear, but as we were leaving I took a SA-N-something in the tail. Lost elevators, one engine, fuel leak, hydraulics leak, oil leak, damaged compressor on the one good engine. Thought I'd had it, so set course for home so I could punch out safely. When I made it to within sight of the carrier group (as much as u can be in sight of anything on a moonless night), I got cocky, thought I'd try and land this hulk. Lined up (I still had rudder and unstable aileron control), prayed that my gear and hook come out on the last few drops of hydraulics (which by the way also made my controls very sluggish), luckily at good altitude, slowed to stall speed and just let her float down. Guess I did it just right because the hook caught and she stopped!!
This was early on in the single-player campaign, and I flew real carefully the next 10 missions or so, so I'd be able to allocate mechanics to fix that bird (for those who havent played the game, you have to decide what gets repaired and when, and you only have a certain number of man-hours per mission).

michapma
04-01-2004, 08:17 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Agamemnon22:
This was early on in the single-player campaign, and I flew real carefully the next 10 missions or so, so I'd be able to allocate mechanics to fix that bird (for those who havent played the game, you have to decide what gets repaired and when, and you only have a certain number of man-hours per mission).<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Now that is a cool campaign feature! Great story. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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73GIAP_Milan
04-01-2004, 08:47 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> quote:
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Originally posted by Agamemnon22:
This was early on in the single-player campaign, and I flew real carefully the next 10 missions or so, so I'd be able to allocate mechanics to fix that bird (for those who havent played the game, you have to decide what gets repaired and when, and you only have a certain number of man-hours per mission).
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Now that is a cool campaign feature! Great story. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

YEAH! would love to see that sort of things back!

But ehrrmm...what if you demolish your plane? Does Uncle Sam provide you a spare one or do you have to fly a wreckage the next mission?? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/53.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/35.gif


Just kiddin' but there is a bit of realism in my question...how about replacements if you would wreck your plane??

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LEXX_Luthor
04-01-2004, 08:52 AM
ELEM, the thread starter gave no indication of flying a "historic" FB Campaign when this happened. If the player wishes to do unrealistic things in QMB then Good cos QMB is just for playing around and getting skills.

The problem you may be having, and its a Good problem to have, may be related to the need for game code to motivate simmers in Campaigns to make it back alive instead of continuing attack Attack ATTACK in severely damaged planes instead of trying to save their butts. That's a game code issue and FB is NOT successfully designed for this kind of motivation for individual simmers/simmerettes.

A non~related Example, it would be cool if players could select a Skill Level for themselves--even the crusty old timer FB Noobs--or have internet dogfighter servers Forcibly assign them Skill Level, and this would restrict vision, change joystick settings for the worse, etc... to force the player to sim Newbie pilots.

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heywooood
04-01-2004, 09:38 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Bearcat99:
Why wouldnt it be at least flyable...... Ive seen pictures of planes that flew home with half a wing.... or no stabilizer.... it isny as bizzare as you might think. There was an Israeli F-16 pilot who landed his F-16 (maybe it was an F-15) on one wing.... ONE WING.... you armchair aeronautical engineers kill me.


I read thet article too.. There was a photo of the pilot and ground personnel walking around to the right side of the plane - it was a B/W photo.. the wing was gone.
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ZG77_Nagual
04-01-2004, 09:57 AM
I sent Oleg a track - me vs four k4s ace - all flight criteria full real. The last two go down after debri from one removes my left engine. I didn't even know the engine was gone till after I shot the first one down! It does handle a little funny, and is slower, but still flyable. He didn't seem to think anything was wrong.

ELEM
04-01-2004, 10:02 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LEXX_Luthor:
ELEM, the thread starter gave no indication of flying a "historic" FB Campaign when this happened. If the player wishes to do unrealistic things in QMB then Good cos QMB is just for playing around and getting skills.

The problem you may be having, and its a Good problem to have, may be related to the need for game code to motivate simmers in Campaigns to make it back alive instead of continuing attack Attack ATTACK in severely damaged planes instead of trying to save their butts. That's a game code issue and FB is NOT successfully designed for this kind of motivation for individual simmers/simmerettes.

A non~related Example, it would be cool if players could select a Skill Level for themselves--even the crusty old timer FB Noobs--or have internet dogfighter servers Forcibly assign them Skill Level, and this would restrict vision, change joystick settings for the worse, etc... to force the player to sim Newbie pilots.:<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

No LEXX, you've missed the point. The original poster (knightflyte) was using this scenario to indicate how GREAT IL-2FB is. Which is why I asked if this happened in arcade mode. (To which he hasn't replied). Because if this happened in anything other than arcade mode then I think it shows up an error in FB that it's detractors could use as ammunition. The event he describes is HIGHLY unlikely in RL so cannot be used as an example of how accurate the sim is. The issue you mention did not even enter my mind, but I take your point. If I had just "LOST" an engine on my P-38, the last thing I would want to do is go in search of more combat!!

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Flightvector
04-01-2004, 11:09 AM
About a decade ago, a fully loaded Beech 1900D prop commuter completely lost its right engine, firewall-forward, after it had dragged behind by its wires for a couple miles. Although the aircraft could no longer maintain altitude, it was successfully ditched into a shallow river with no major injuries to the passengers.

The Beech 1900D has twin 1200 Shp de-rated turboprops, all in a large aircraft that can hold 21 passengers where the engines are quite far apart, and this plane was almost able to hold altitude and was fully controllable, notice that this aircraft is similar in weight to the P-38. It would be right to assume that a P-38 with its power and closely spaced engines could possibly maintain altitude and certainly maintain controlled flight. Combat however is completely out of the question, if not only because of the lack of power from two engines, but because of the immense drag produced by the flat and exposed firewall of the missing engine.

Agamemnon22
04-01-2004, 12:24 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Der_Tote_Baron:

YEAH! would love to see that sort of things back!

But ehrrmm...what if you demolish your plane? Does Uncle Sam provide you a spare one or do you have to fly a wreckage the next mission?? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/53.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/35.gif


Just kiddin' but there is a bit of realism in my question...how about replacements if you would wreck your plane??

Regards,

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The way that game (and later ATF) did it was you had a set number of planes at your disposal. I think it was like 5 F-14's, 4F-18's, an unlimited number of F-104's (lol), a few A-7 Corsair II's, uhmmmm.. I think there was one more type, but don't remember now. Also in the campaign, towards the end you got 1 F-22. If you lost a plane, but survived the mission you'd just have 1 less plane. I think at some point if you wrecked too many planes you were given a desk to fly for the rest of the campaignhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

You also had to ration your weapons. You had a set number of each type of missile, bomb and whatever else you want to hang on there (including droptanks). So you couldn't spam the sky with missiles in hopes that one hits, you really had to make it count. Also there weren't enough AMRAAMs for the entire campaign, so you had to decide before the mission if you'd be facing Mig-21/23/27's and could afford to downgrade to Sparrows, and when you'd face a fleet of Flankers where you ought to load up on Amraams and Phoenixes (not too many of these either).

I ought to send this to Oleg for BoB! Attrition is going to important to the campaigns!http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/35.gif

knightflyte
04-01-2004, 02:57 PM
You understand correctly. The engine was knocked out of it's nacelle. I was in QMB with cockpit/ spin/ stall/ realistic firing/ redouts etc etc.....
I didnt say it was easy to shoot the other 2 down..... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif I had to really nurse the remaining engine and all axis to keep from stalling. But, the airplanes were near so I went for them.
I agree, in real life the chances of surviving that impact enough to shoot down 2 other 111's would be improbable at best.

It was still fun and just the experience was very cool in my book.

For one small moment I flinched in my chair trying to avoid a wheel coming right at me. The suspension of disbelief was removed for that instant. THAT IS COOL! and is part of the experience we ALL enjoy and strive to acchieve.

I remember flying thru ANYTHING and EVERYTHING without ANY damage in IL2 Sturmovik.

Covino
04-01-2004, 06:15 PM
Who says a P-38 can't down a couple weak bombers on one engine (without the weight of the dead engine in this case)? I'm sure in real life this wasn't reccomended and the pilot would probably be grounded but FB is where you can live out these scenarios. Besided, fighters are usually given much more power than neccessary and not much performance is needed to down an He-111 especially with the P-38's amament.

lil_labbit
04-01-2004, 06:33 PM
wheel eh?
I got a freakin' complete plane up my tail recently....
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