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Xnomad
03-04-2004, 02:54 PM
Go here:

http://www.sn-medien.de/modellpilot/news.htm

in the middle of the page there are some nice videos of a model Me 262.

Apparently the man who built this model is facing 20 days in prison or a fine of 1000 Euros. All because he included a swastika on the tail of his model. Hmmmm the justice system in Germany is all messed up!

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Xnomad
03-04-2004, 02:54 PM
Go here:

http://www.sn-medien.de/modellpilot/news.htm

in the middle of the page there are some nice videos of a model Me 262.

Apparently the man who built this model is facing 20 days in prison or a fine of 1000 Euros. All because he included a swastika on the tail of his model. Hmmmm the justice system in Germany is all messed up!

http://www.xnomad.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/sig.jpg

-HH-Dubbo
03-04-2004, 03:44 PM
Nice model. What is he using for an engine(s). It sounds really cool.
Tough break on the swastika charges, but right or wrong, he shoulda known.


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AceofSpades7262
03-04-2004, 03:55 PM
What the real sad thing is, is that those model engines sound alot more louder and menacing then our fullsized ones in game :)

Chuck_Older
03-04-2004, 04:03 PM
Originally posted by Dubbo2:
Tough break on the swastika charges, but right or wrong, he shoulda known.


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Yep. Ignorance of the Law is rarely a succesful defense.

Germany is run by "Anti-Naziism nazis". That's a deep concept...

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Menthol_moose
03-04-2004, 04:03 PM
Damm, now thats what a I call a toy !

The german government should get over the paranoia !!


Stick their political correctness up their arse sideways !!! >:(



Eh, mates! What's the good word?

Chuck_Older
03-04-2004, 04:09 PM
The problem, I should think, is of legal precedent.

If they allow this model to go 'uncensored' and it's maker un-punished, it creates a legal precedent that can circumvent their attempts to legally silence and censor neo-nazi hate groups.

The actual 'crime' is completely out of scale with the punishment, of course, but it is technically illegal in the US, for instance, to say, [note to Homeland Security- this is an electronic example, a relay of an offense, not my actual intention. Your office is already doing it's utmost to destroy the Freedoms I know and Love, so back right the *@%^ off if you're reading this] "I'm going to assasinate the President of the United Sates of America". So wacky laws that are out of touch with reality are still technically laws...

That said, it's pretty unlikely this model is a nazi recruitment technique :)

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borganout
03-04-2004, 04:15 PM
My friend told me that when Australia came a country they carried over most of the old English laws and one of those laws is that all boys between the age of 7 -14 must pracitice archery for an hour before dawn.

I have not looked into the truth of this but I still find it funn.y

Magister__Ludi
03-04-2004, 04:21 PM
Originally posted by Chuck_Older:
The problem, I should think, is of legal precedent.

If they allow this model to go 'uncensored' and it's maker un-punished, it creates a legal precedent that can circumvent their attempts to legally silence and censor neo-nazi hate groups.

The actual 'crime' is completely out of scale with the punishment, of course, but it is technically illegal in the US, for instance, to say, [note to Homeland Security- this is an electronic example, a relay of an offense, not my actual intention. Your office is already doing it's utmost to destroy the Freedoms I know and Love, so back right the *@%^ off if you're reading this] "I'm going to assasinate the President of the United Sates of America". So wacky laws that are out of touch with reality are still technically laws...



Ok, a law might be useful, but hey 20 years in prison??! you can't get that much for a murder. This remainds me of a stupid copyright law in my home country which stipulates up to 15 years in prison for breaking it. Similar stupidity, I'd say make them pay if you want to punish them, prison is an waay to severe measure for those script kids. Not to mention that there are no real specialists to prosecute such cases, I really wonder how fair are such trials.

Chuck_Older
03-04-2004, 04:31 PM
Where does it say 20 years? I don't read German very well.

Xnomad indicated it was 20 ~days~ or 1000 Euros.

If 20 years is the penalty, that is flippin Kuuuhhh-RAYZEE, but then again, we are talking about a guy, presumably a German, who knows enough about this stuff to mark his model historically correctly, but somehow didn't know he could get in throuble for displaying a swastika? Ignorance of the Law still isn't a good excuse. Never has been anywhere laws are enforced, and it never will be.

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Magister__Ludi
03-04-2004, 04:38 PM
Originally posted by Chuck_Older:
Where does it say 20 years? I don't read German very well.

Xnomad indicated it was 20 ~days~ or 1000 Euros.

If 20 years is the penalty, that is flippin Kuuuhhh-RAYZEE, but then again, we are talking about a guy, presumably a German, who knows enough about this stuff to mark his model historically correctly, but somehow didn't know he could get in throuble for displaying a swastika? Ignorance of the Law still isn't a good excuse. Never has been anywhere laws are enforced, and it never will be.




oops I misread it

Kampfmeister
03-05-2004, 10:35 AM
Just looked at the site. My German sad to say is somewhat rusty but the title clearly states that the penalty is either 1000 euro's or 20 Days in jail. One way or another he should have known better. I think German law is very specific about anything that is even remotely related with the nazis, such as the swastika. I understand how it can offend people as has been debated many times on this forum, but it also just seems to be another example of political correctness gone overboard. I think if a German even looks at a Jew the wrong way these days he'll get in trouble.

I once asked my relatives in Germany to get me an old Imperial Battle flag (from the days of the Kaiser) because I liked the way it looks, and it is part of my German heritage. They had a difficult time obtaining one for me because the German government was going to ban it, because the neo-nazis were using it in their protests, since the WWII flag with the swastika was obviously banned. It was a flag from old imperial Germany and never had anything to do with the nazis. If they had marched around with images of Jesus, would they have banned these too?

Well, enough said about this touchy subject lest I offend someone. Hey Chuck, do you want me to bring you a cake with a file in it when they haul you off to prison for your comments about the president? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Skullin
03-05-2004, 12:12 PM
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