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RJNewly
09-16-2004, 11:28 AM
Has anyone tried this yet? I got the last copy from the local EB Games store last night and proceeded to load it onto my computer under the false pretense that I was paying bills so my wife wouldn't start yellinghttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

After I "paid" a few bills I casually started playing United Offensive with my wife sitting there trying to talk to me (she always does this and I find it annoying but oh hell I still get to play). Immediately she asked if this was a new game. I innocently said "no why do you ask"? She said, "because it looks different than the game you alays play". Man I was beginning to sweat bullets but managed to convince her that this was in fact the same game jus a differnt level(a white lie - same title just an addon)http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Well I began to play the single player version and I was somewhat disapointed. Here my quick observations:

1) heavily scripted
2) almost unrealistic in terms of the volumes of enemy that thrown at you in the Battle of the Bulge.
3) its getting even more arcadish than it ever was

Quickly I tired of the single player and moved to the mulitplayer and was again diapointed.

1) very arcadish
2) lots of lag for some reason even on low ping servers

Anybody else have any thoughts or opinions on this?

RJNewly
09-16-2004, 11:28 AM
Has anyone tried this yet? I got the last copy from the local EB Games store last night and proceeded to load it onto my computer under the false pretense that I was paying bills so my wife wouldn't start yellinghttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

After I "paid" a few bills I casually started playing United Offensive with my wife sitting there trying to talk to me (she always does this and I find it annoying but oh hell I still get to play). Immediately she asked if this was a new game. I innocently said "no why do you ask"? She said, "because it looks different than the game you alays play". Man I was beginning to sweat bullets but managed to convince her that this was in fact the same game jus a differnt level(a white lie - same title just an addon)http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Well I began to play the single player version and I was somewhat disapointed. Here my quick observations:

1) heavily scripted
2) almost unrealistic in terms of the volumes of enemy that thrown at you in the Battle of the Bulge.
3) its getting even more arcadish than it ever was

Quickly I tired of the single player and moved to the mulitplayer and was again diapointed.

1) very arcadish
2) lots of lag for some reason even on low ping servers

Anybody else have any thoughts or opinions on this?

darkhorizon11
09-16-2004, 11:35 AM
Im sorry to say this but the World War Two genre of FPS shooters are dead.

Gosh how many have come out in the past few years...

Deadly Dozen(1+2)
Battlefield 1942
Call of Duty
Call of Duty UO
Return to Castle Wolfenstein
All the Medal of Honors
Brothers in Arms

I think pretty much every major theater of battle has been to death.

Now I guess Vietnam is the new FPS...

As crazy as it sounds I would really like to a an American Civil War or Rev. War FPS...that would be sweet....

RJNewly
09-16-2004, 11:42 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by darkhorizon11:

As crazy as it sounds I would really like to a an American Civil War or Rev. War FPS...that would be sweet....<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not strange at all. I would love to see a WWI game as well. The Civil War, or Revoultionary war would be quite cool as well.

Good-Taters
09-16-2004, 11:47 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>
As crazy as it sounds I would really like to a an American Civil War or Rev. War FPS...that would be sweet....<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yea, great! Standing straight up for a minute while reloading and hope you don't take a musketball to the groin. Another cool feature - if it rains, you can't shoot! Awesome!

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biggs222
09-16-2004, 12:04 PM
um...Brothers In Arms isnt out yet... and THAT game will be the benchmark for all WWII FPSs once its out...no other WWII FPS will be as realistic/ authentic as Brothers In Arms...hell, with all the time spend on recreating the actual fields that the 502nd PIR actually fought on and the actual battels that took place over the first 8 days of fighting , you could even call it a sim instead of a game.

BIA will leave all the other WWII FPSs in the dust.

Friendly_flyer
09-16-2004, 02:14 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by RJNewly:
I would love to see a WWI game as well.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I think there is a WWI FPS out there, or at least in the making.

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Chuck_Older
09-16-2004, 02:34 PM
Uh...somebody didn't notice that CoD was heavily scripted when it was first released?

Please tell me you're joking that you say you're disappointed in the add-on because it's heavily scripted, RJ- as if CoD wasn't heavily scripted to begin with!

I'm gonna assume that this is another fishing trip. Where's the beer?

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adlabs6
09-16-2004, 04:08 PM
Heh, never thought much about it before, but a civil war FPS might be fun.

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WUAF_WarWeapon2
09-16-2004, 04:15 PM
I'd rather play a World War 1 FPS.. That would be fun, the whole emphasis would be sniping and close combat. And for those who say "No that would suck because everything you do is a suicide run.", thats wrong. They could set levels of the early part of the war or perhaps even the later part when its not always the same "trench warfare" that everyone associates with WWI.

RJNewly
09-16-2004, 04:17 PM
Chuckie,

Yes I new it was heavily scripted before but I had hoped that maybe the user would be given a little more control to make decisions. Ok Chuckie?


<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Chuck_Older:
Uh...somebody didn't notice that CoD was heavily scripted when it was first released?

Please tell me you're joking that you say you're disappointed in the add-on because it's heavily scripted, RJ- as if CoD wasn't heavily scripted to begin with!

I'm gonna assume that this is another fishing trip. Where's the beer?

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LStarosta
09-16-2004, 04:19 PM
It's built on the same crappy and limited engine, why would it be any different?

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RJNewly
09-16-2004, 04:57 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LStarosta:
It's built on the same crappy and limited engine, why would it be any different?

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Wow how do you really feel?

Tooz_69GIAP
09-16-2004, 05:03 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LStarosta:
It's built on the same crappy and limited engine, why would it be any different?
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hmm, interesting, I wonder why folks here don't say the same thing about Pacific Fighters??

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choxaway
09-16-2004, 06:43 PM
Wandering even further off course, I'd always hoped for a decent Wild West FPS - love westerns and I'd have thought it would suit the PC. Lots of great desert scenery, ramshackle old towns, shootouts at sunset etc, although I suppose fighting indians (should I say Native Americans) would be totally unacceptable given today's politically correct paranoia.
Could still fight bandits and other baddies, though with my Colt .45 and Winchester '92 . . .


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adadaead
09-16-2004, 06:44 PM
Comon you want some real WW2 realism, buy Operation Flashpoint and download the WW2 addons http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif.

Now what do guys think of upcoming MOH Pacific Assault, that is one unrealistic game even you get to fly a plane there fo the first time.

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Chuck_Older
09-16-2004, 07:19 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by RJNewly:
Chuckie,

Yes I new it was heavily scripted before but I had hoped that maybe the user would be given a little more control to make decisions. Ok Chuckie?


<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Maybe if I gave you a cookie you'd stop pouting? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/93.gif

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Ob.Emann
09-16-2004, 11:33 PM
Just for information, there is a downloadable Civil War addon for Medal of Honor: Allied Assault in the works, if I could remember where the info was, I'll post it. The WIP screens look very good, and special emphasis has been placed on weapon realism (reloading and all) and even the animations involved for the cartride, ramrod etc.

Anyway, in United Offensive, does it still have German soldiers carrying MP-44's in 1942-1943? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/59.gif

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llandaff
09-17-2004, 12:40 AM
About "Western" FPS: there is good ol' Outlaw!

FPS from mid 90. Made by LucasArts. Modified Dark Forces engine (sprite enemies). 2 CDs of OUTSTANDING spaghetti western music (a-la Morricone).

This game ROCKS! Multiplayer is another load of fun http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

The_Ant
09-17-2004, 05:28 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Llandaff:
About "Western" FPS: there is good ol' Outlaw!

FPS from mid 90. Made by LucasArts. Modified Dark Forces engine (sprite enemies). 2 CDs of OUTSTANDING spaghetti western music (a-la Morricone).

This game ROCKS! Multiplayer is another load of fun http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Theres also Dead mans hand for Pc published this year,This is a Fps Shooter in italian spaggeti wild west style.

And theres Red dead revolver for Ps2 and Xbox also an fps Shooter and also published this year.

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LeChuck59
09-17-2004, 07:51 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by darkhorizon11:
Im sorry to say this but the World War Two genre of FPS shooters are dead.

Gosh how many have come out in the past few years...

Deadly Dozen(1+2)
Battlefield 1942
Call of Duty
Call of Duty UO
Return to Castle Wolfenstein
All the Medal of Honors
Brothers in Arms

I think pretty much every major theater of battle has been to death.

Now I guess Vietnam is the new FPS...

As crazy as it sounds I would really like to a an American Civil War or Rev. War FPS...that would be sweet....<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

While it would be nice to see some new conflicts explored in a game, to say that WW2 is used up is silly. By that logic, we don't need BoB or PF. After all, if I want to fly a Spit I can already, and if I want to fly a Corsair I can just go back to CFS 2, right? No. And that's my point.

Chuck_Older
09-17-2004, 10:25 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Llandaff:
About "Western" FPS: there is good ol' Outlaw!

FPS from mid 90. Made by LucasArts. Modified Dark Forces engine (sprite enemies). 2 CDs of OUTSTANDING spaghetti western music (a-la Morricone).

This game ROCKS! Multiplayer is another load of fun http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Outlaws was fun.
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Clint Bajakian did the music. He studied Morricone's style very closely and did a brilliant job of re-interpreting some of his themes

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Supr
09-17-2004, 10:34 AM
I picked it up, i've been enjoying it. it is what it is. 25 bucks for some mindless entertainment. 25 bucks is less than I just spent on lunch for 2, and that will only stick with me till dinner, so that cheap entertainment in my book. So maybe its fairly scripted, but its a decent script. Still, I gues it would be nicer with one of the newer engines like farcry, but so be it.

Charlie901
09-17-2004, 11:23 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by biggs222:
um...Brothers In Arms isnt out yet... and THAT game will be the benchmark for all WWII FPSs once its out...no other WWII FPS will be as realistic/ authentic as Brothers In Arms...hell, with all the time spend on recreating the actual fields that the 502nd PIR actually fought on and the actual battels that took place over the first 8 days of fighting , you could even call it a sim instead of a game.

BIA will leave all the other WWII FPSs in the dust.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>



Yeah, but once I heard it's being ported to the PS2 and Xbox my hopes went down the drain. The PS2 is a 333mhz processor so I can't see them putting to much into the game without totally stressing the system, unless of coarse there making a completely different version for PC. Have yet to see this done to date though.

choxaway
09-17-2004, 11:52 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>About "Western" FPS: there is good ol' Outlaw!
FPS from mid 90. Made by LucasArts. Modified Dark Forces engine (sprite enemies). 2 CDs of OUTSTANDING spaghetti western music (a-la Morricone).

http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Theres also Dead mans hand for Pc published this year,This is a Fps Shooter in italian spaggeti wild west style.

And theres Red dead revolver for Ps2 and Xbox also an fps Shooter and also published this year.

[Si Vis Pacem,Para Bellum = If you wish for peace, prepare for war.][/QUOTE]

I tried the Dead Mans Hand demo and enjoyed certain elements of it, but it was just too arcade in style with points appearing above certain targets when you hit them (accompanied by stupid till ringing sounds . I ask you!

I thought the screenies from Red Dead Revolver looked promising but there's no PC version, so I ruled that one out. It'd be great to have a really authentic proper western sim, rather than the usual arcade game, but I suppose with few western films being made these days, developers assume nobody's interested. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/cry.gif


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huggy87
09-17-2004, 11:53 AM
I've spent a couple of hours playing it. It is the best WW2 shooter to date. The level of immersion is unmatched by any other. The weapons feel right (I own 12 WW2 firearms) and it is just plain entertaining.

I can't argue that it is heavily scripted, but that also makes for some hectic exciting sequences. Tactically, yeah it is arcadish and the enemy can't shoot very well either. The multiplayer maps are pretty fun. But when did the british get b-17's for daylight missions?

Tooz_69GIAP
09-17-2004, 12:21 PM
I completed CoD in 8 hours on the first go. Then I upped the difficulty and I completed it in 7 hours that time, then went on the hardest difficulty and did it in around 9 hours.

I am not that good at games, I'm not the kind of guy can just sit with a game and play it through to the end in this sort of time.

That means CoD is easy, and is waaaaay too short. It's great, but there is precious little that pulls you back to it time and again.

I returned it after about 4 days.

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Bloodyclaws
09-17-2004, 01:30 PM
The new game is faster paced, MUCH more difficult from the get go, and the weapons have alot more detail to them.

I am currently on the B-17 level, getting my A$$ torn apart after the second fuel valve shutoff.

I LOVE COD. Why? The immersion factor, especilly with surround sound is fantastic. When I loaded the first one up and got to the Stalingrad level, I almost soiled myself for the sounds of the incoming shells.

Surround sound is the way to go!

All those that complain about it being "scripted" and "too easy" can curse themselves for not doing thier homework ahead of purchase.

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darkhorizon11
09-17-2004, 01:55 PM
"um...Brothers In Arms isnt out yet... and THAT game will be the benchmark for all WWII FPSs once its out...no other WWII FPS will be as realistic/ authentic as Brothers In Arms...hell, with all the time spend on recreating the actual fields that the 502nd PIR actually fought on and the actual battels that took place over the first 8 days of fighting , you could even call it a sim instead of a game."

BIA will leave all the other WWII FPSs in the dust."


After the original Medal of Honor for Playstation there was a lull in the WW2 FPS world. Then came Medal of Honor and Battlefield 1942 and Return to Castlewolfenstien. Everyone was like WHOA. Then a year went by, then we were hit with Call of Duty, another Medal of Honor, Hidden and Dangerous... and we were wow'd again, but not as much.

What makes Brothers in Arms so special??? Oh wow some better graphics... A couple more functions.

Battlefield 1942 is completely unorganized and random in battle, like a crazy capture the flag game. Call of Duty did a little better job, it is scripted, but the number of bots is greater and it gives you a team feel. I haven't played much Hidden and Dangerous but to my understanding is that its pretty close.

The only step up in Brothers in Arms is that, its "based" on a true story. The game only takes place over 8 days, which means a lot of the maps will also run together. It'll still have the same surprise of Germans popping up. I guarantee you there will be a mission where you gotta steal a bunch of German panzerfausts and destroy a bunch of Panzers. Don't get me wrong I'll probably still end up buying it or borrowing it from a friend. I don't hate the WW2 FPS's but I think everyone can agree that nowadays they seem to run together.. I will admit though Call of Duty is def. the best one I've played so far as it really stands out.

An American Civil War or Revolutionary War, or better yet! A realistic World War One wim would shake things up a bit! Not just a different story, but completely different styles of combat, weapons and tactics. Not to mention objectives!


"While it would be nice to see some new conflicts explored in a game, to say that WW2 is used up is silly. By that logic, we don't need BoB or PF. After all, if I want to fly a Spit I can already, and if I want to fly a Corsair I can just go back to CFS 2, right? No. And that's my point."

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JG27_Arklight
09-17-2004, 02:35 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Good-Taters:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>
As crazy as it sounds I would really like to a an American Civil War or Rev. War FPS...that would be sweet....<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yea, great! Standing straight up for a minute while reloading and hope you don't take a musketball to the groin. Another cool feature - if it rains, you can't shoot! Awesome!

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LMAO!

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Chuck_Older
09-17-2004, 02:36 PM
Gee, Hidden and Dangerous 2 was pretty fun

Anyhoo, I will buy UO because I liked CoD. It was fun. It was not a simulation of warfare. I mean, OFP does that better still. Ghost Recon did it better too in my opinion. Yes I know they aren't WWII shooters but they are examples of games that are FPS based on warfare and show how it COULD be done.

An OFP type WWII title would make me giddy. I have lots of OFP downloads, but I don't have the time to dl all the WWII stuff.

As far as an American Revolution shooter...uh, how? One shot every 33 seconds...and you missed. Another.....



.....s....sss...sss..shot.

And you missed.


What the?!


RUN!



Hide.



Oh look, Sammy Adams is rabble rousing. I think I'll throw a tankard at him because his dog wee'ed in my potato patch. Maybe you could run errands for Pat Henry to earn experience points, and then search for the magic britches somebody left in the loo after the Sons of Liberty threw their annual party....then of course there are all the melting lead shot for ammo cut scenes...

Sorry, got carried away. But what do you think would be the "action" in an American Revolution FPS? Staring at a musket barrel most of the time while you reload? Describe a typical American Revolution FPS mission.

It could be done, but it would be more like Theif than Call of Duty

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JG27_Arklight
09-17-2004, 02:36 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Tooz_69GIAP:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LStarosta:
It's built on the same crappy and limited engine, why would it be any different?
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hmm, interesting, I wonder why folks here don't say the same thing about Pacific Fighters??

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Doh!

LOL

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JG27_Arklight
09-17-2004, 02:42 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Tooz_69GIAP:
I completed CoD in 8 hours on the first go. Then I upped the difficulty and I completed it in 7 hours that time, then went on the hardest difficulty and did it in around 9 hours.

I am not that good at games, I'm not the kind of guy can just sit with a game and play it through to the end in this sort of time.

That means CoD is easy, and is waaaaay too short. It's great, but there is precious little that pulls you back to it time and again.

I returned it after about 4 days.

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CoD is WAY too short and WAY to easy..

BUT...

The MP side of it is an ABSOLUTE BLAST to play.



Screw the single player aspect, the MP side of it is worth the price alone, IMO.

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Copperhead310th
09-17-2004, 03:00 PM
I have CoD. Love it for Off Line. the Stllengrad
intro and russain campin was well worth what i paid for the game. and i'll more than likly be picking this thing up over the week end.
Online CoD Bites. the whole MP interface is screwy as hell. Finding a good server is hard. Finding one with out a bunch of snot nosed geeks hoped up on caffeine and calling every one a n00b and saying i'm gonn P@wn j00z while they pop thier zits is even harder. there are a couple of good clan based servers. Blood Angel Clan has a good server most of the time with out havign to load or download 3rd party maps. (which some are actaully BETTER than some that came with the damn game) FPS isn't my thing. But i do like CoD. All the others were IMO "OK".

Now a War for Southern Independance (Civil War) FPS would kick @SS!

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Now I'm 33 and it isn't me
But I'd think of something better if I could..."Counting Crows

LStarosta
09-17-2004, 03:18 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Tooz_69GIAP:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LStarosta:
It's built on the same crappy and limited engine, why would it be any different?
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Hmm, interesting, I wonder why folks here don't say the same thing about Pacific Fighters??

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Because it hasn't come out yet. Durrrrrr. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/35.gif

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Copperhead310th
09-17-2004, 03:39 PM
Brothers In Arms
Darkhorizon is right this is going to be a VERY VERY cool game. i will be buying this one.
Check out the E3 Demo Presentation Video.
Awsome.
Brothers In Arms (http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/brothersinarms/index.html)

Bad news is...once again Ubi screws up another relase date. lol typical Ubi. won't realese now till 1st 1/4 2005. (add 2 weeks be sure!)

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that I told myself when I needed something good
At 17 had a better dream
Now I'm 33 and it isn't me
But I'd think of something better if I could..."Counting Crows

LStarosta
09-17-2004, 03:40 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Copperhead310th:
_Brothers In Arms_
Darkhorizon is right this is going to be a VERY VERY cool game. i will be buying this one.
Check out the E3 Demo Presentation Video.
Awsome.
http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/brothersinarms/index.html

_Bad news is...once again Ubi screws up another relase date. lol typical Ubi. won't realese now till 1st 1/4 2005. (add 2 weeks be sure!)_

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a child but it was a lie
that I told myself when I needed something good
At 17 had a better dream
Now I'm 33 and it isn't me
But I'd think of something better if I could..."__Counting Crows_<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


That blows. I was actually looking forward to that...

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darkhorizon11
09-17-2004, 03:52 PM
Actually, during the Revolutionary war there was plenty of ambushes and guerrilla warfare done by the colonists. Pistols were a quicker reload than rifles and there was also a share of knifes and swords to cut people up with.
Or one of the first generations of snipers, hiding out in "neutral" houses or in trees breaking the rules by shooting officers.

If its done right theres plenty of potential. Nevermind the oppurtunities with a Civil War sim.

Chuck_Older
09-17-2004, 04:00 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by darkhorizon11:
Actually, during the Revolutionary war there was plenty of ambushes and guerrilla warfare done by the colonists. Pistols were a quicker reload than rifles and there was also a share of knifes and swords to cut people up with.
Or one of the first generations of snipers, hiding out in "neutral" houses or in trees breaking the rules by shooting officers.

If its done right theres plenty of potential. Nevermind the oppurtunities with a Civil War sim.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Oh, I'm well aware. I was born on the banks of the River Charles, grew up less than five miles from Boston, and currently reside there. My Dad was an American History teacher and I knew where Breed's hill was before most kids were potty trained. I've been to Lexington and Concord many many times by just travelling around to go places I need to go, and the semi-famous Powder House is in my Hometown.

But still, what kind of mission would there be in a FPS of the Revolution? it would not be a CoD type of game, is all I'm saying. It would be less than exciting for most players. All it would be is a change of pace.

Now the Civil War and Wild West genres, hoo boy. Why there is no the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly game is beyond me! PCs are quite capable of doing the genre justice.

Ever see "Morrowind"? Free- form play. Imagine a Good bad and Ugly, free-form game. you can play the game as 'scripted', or say, screw it, I'm a bounty hunter, period. Or a bank robber or a train robber. that would be great

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Mon Pavion
09-17-2004, 04:05 PM
Its all about WW2OnLine as far as WW2 FPS go IMHO. despite its flaws, it is the only true online warfare simulator.

"I don't ask no questions, they don't tell me no lies."

meh_cd
09-17-2004, 04:11 PM
I have United Offensive and it has this nasty tendancy to freeze whenever I complete an objective. Great, just great. The original COD never crashed on me. But, I have a feeling it will be fixed if I much around with the graphics settings.

crazyivan1970
09-17-2004, 04:13 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by TheGeneral_D:
Its all about WW2OnLine as far as WW2 FPS go IMHO. despite its flaws, it is the only true online warfare simulator.

"I don't ask no questions, they don't tell me no lies."<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Amen to that General, all it needs is COD graphics and nothing will ever comes close.

V!
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LeadSpitter_
09-17-2004, 04:21 PM
so it was you who removed them ivan

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crazyivan1970
09-17-2004, 04:22 PM
You keep posting that i`ll remove you too... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

V!
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Kozhedub: In combat potential, the Yak-3, La-7 and La-9 fighters were indisputably superior to the Bf-109s and Fw-190s. But, as they say, no matter how good the violin may be, much depends on the violinist. I always felt respect for an enemy pilot whose plane I failed to down.

Charlie901
09-17-2004, 07:01 PM
Try the AUSTIN servers for COD they are all very good and have lots of 3rd party maps and very mature players and rules.

Best server I've ever had the pleasure to play on. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Mackane1
09-17-2004, 07:38 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Copperhead310th

Now a War for Southern Independance (Civil War) FPS would kick @SS!

http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-mad.gif Ya'll can guess what side i'd be on. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
_[walks away whilt'n "Dixe"]_
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[This message was edited by Mackane1 on Fri September 17 2004 at 06:46 PM.]

ThePredster
09-17-2004, 08:02 PM
fneb

UO rulz

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Mon Pavion
09-17-2004, 08:12 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by crazyivan1970:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by TheGeneral_D:
Its all about WW2OnLine as far as WW2 FPS go IMHO. despite its flaws, it is the only true online warfare simulator.

"I don't ask no questions, they don't tell me no lies."<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Amen to that General, all it needs is COD graphics and nothing will ever comes close.

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Kozhedub: In combat potential, the Yak-3, La-7 and La-9 fighters were indisputably superior to the Bf-109s and Fw-190s. But, as they say, no matter how good the violin may be, much depends on the violinist. I always felt respect for an enemy pilot whose plane I failed to down.
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Yea. The game is being constantly updated. Right now the Devs seem to be really focusing on updating the graphics. They have already added a number of new buildings and such. The most recent patch added destroyable bridges http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

Anyone who is interested, go here...

http://www5.playnet.com/bv/wwiiol/index.jsp

And if you are looking for a great Allied squad to play with, go here...

http://www.bkbhq.com/index.php

...snd click on enlistment center, follow onscreen instructions. We are always taking on new recruits.

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darkhorizon11
09-17-2004, 09:35 PM
"Oh, I'm well aware. I was born on the banks of the River Charles, grew up less than five miles from Boston, and currently reside there. My Dad was an American History teacher and I knew where Breed's hill was before most kids were potty trained. I've been to Lexington and Concord many many times by just travelling around to go places I need to go, and the semi-famous Powder House is in my Hometown."



Totally. I grew up in Rhode Island thats all the history I ever learned about until I got to high school. There's still potential, hand to hand combat, you could also ride a horse in the cavalry, or shoot cannon balls into the ranks of redcoats. I still would support a game for that.

But I'm not worried since, well, in two months (hopefully) I'll have like 50 new planes to fly an a giant ocean to play in!

Heavy_Weather
09-18-2004, 07:06 AM
it only has like 9 missions or so right? i cant see paying money for a hand full of unrealistic eye candy. unfortunately Rainbox Six games have submitted to lameness also. cheap http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

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TX Rahman
09-18-2004, 09:41 AM
General...I join Ivan in agreeing with you... I play WWIIOL and am a member of the 12th Cavalry... 43 MID. Love it

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Breeze147
09-18-2004, 09:46 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Heavy_Weather:
it only has like 9 missions or so right? i cant see paying money for a hand full of unrealistic eye candy. unfortunately Rainbox Six games have submitted to lameness also. cheap http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

"To fly a combat mission is not a trip under the moon. Every attack, every bombing is a dance with death."
- Serafima Amsova-Taranenko: Noggle, Ann (1994): A Dance with Death.


<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You could get into a time machine and go back to Omaha Beach on D-Day and swear it was too scripted.

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meh_cd
09-18-2004, 10:29 AM
Well I finished it. I'm disappointed. Some may like it, but for me it was worse than the original. Heck, I'd rather replay the original missions than the new ones.

ThePredster
09-18-2004, 10:50 AM
CHRIST GUYS!

This game is about MULTIPLAYER!

go out and play it ya ninnies!

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Paradox242
09-18-2004, 11:27 AM
There is a better online WWII FPS than CoD for those of you who enjoy more realistic shooters. It's the Red Orchestra mod for Unreal Tournament 2004 and frankly, I'm suprised it hasn't been mentioned. It focuses solely on the Eastern front where the player has his choice of playing Soviet or German with a variety of weapons, including bolt action rifles (K98, Mosin Nagent, Mosin Nagent Carbine), semi-automatic rifles (Gew43, SVT-40), sub-machineguns (MP40, MP41, MP44, PPD 40, PPSH 41, PPS43), light machineguns (MG34, soon to be MG42, DP28), Panzerfausts, and drivable tanks and halftracks (which are in a primitive state at the moment but being worked over in the next patch). Play as the Sturmpioniere to blow up objectives, or perhaps as the Gr├╝ppenf├╝hrer and call in artillery support? (Which is limited and more realistic than Enemy Territory). It's a great game, a great community, and I urge everyone to atleast give their website a look if this sounds like your kind of game.

http://redorchestramod.gameservers.net/

[This message was edited by Paradox242 on Sat September 18 2004 at 10:37 AM.]

Multimetal
09-18-2004, 11:28 AM
I got the UO demo, I have to say that it's pretty fun if unrealistic. But who really wants a full-real WW2 game? I've been having something of a moral delimma with these games lately, as they are all based on real events. For example the Stalingrad missions in the first COD, loads of fun but wait a sec....how many thousands were shot/burned alive/crushed by rubble/blown to pieces/frozen to death in real life? It seems to trivialize the sacrifices made by so many people that we now look at their suffering as entertainment. Who would like to explain to a WW2 soldier that in 50 years people would be replaying their experiences for fun? I know that you can use games as a way to appreciate the hardships that people went through, but it still doesn't seem quite right just the same.
Maybe if they develop a "sim" that causes you intense emotional turmoil, extreme physical discomfort, and also causes you to have nightmares and flashbacks for the rest of your life, then we'll have our "fully realistic World War 2 sim." Sorry for the negative thoughts, but this question has been bugging me a bit lately.

Mackane1
09-18-2004, 12:51 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Multimetal:
I got the UO demo, I have to say that it's pretty fun if unrealistic. But who really wants a full-real WW2 game? I've been having something of a moral delimma with these games lately, as they are all based on real events. For example the Stalingrad missions in the first COD, loads of fun but wait a sec....how many thousands were shot/burned alive/crushed by rubble/blown to pieces/frozen to death in real life? It seems to trivialize the sacrifices made by so many people that we now look at their suffering as entertainment. Who would like to explain to a WW2 soldier that in 50 years people would be replaying their experiences for fun? I know that you can use games as a way to appreciate the hardships that people went through, but it still doesn't seem quite right just the same.
Maybe if they develop a "sim" that causes you intense emotional turmoil, extreme physical discomfort, and also causes you to have nightmares and flashbacks for the rest of your life, then we'll have our "fully realistic World War 2 sim." Sorry for the negative thoughts, but this question has been bugging me a bit lately.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I showed CoD-UO to my uncle John. He fought in Bastogne. He thought the game was amazing. It even got him started on telling some cool stories about what went on there.
The war was a long time ago and I kinda' think that eighty year old veterans have better uses for their energy than to fret about a game.

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meh_cd
09-18-2004, 07:29 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ThePredster:
CHRIST GUYS!

This game is about MULTIPLAYER!

go out and play it ya ninnies!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v65/preddy/tiger22.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I rarely play multiplayer with any game. Anyway, it was just my opinion, and it looks like most people love the game anyways.

Chuck_Older
09-18-2004, 09:05 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Multimetal:
I got the UO demo, I have to say that it's pretty fun if unrealistic. But who really wants a full-real WW2 game? I've been having something of a moral delimma with these games lately, as they are all based on real events. For example the Stalingrad missions in the first COD, loads of fun but wait a sec....how many thousands were shot/burned alive/crushed by rubble/blown to pieces/frozen to death in real life? It seems to trivialize the sacrifices made by so many people that we now look at their suffering as entertainment. Who would like to explain to a WW2 soldier that in 50 years people would be replaying their experiences for fun? I know that you can use games as a way to appreciate the hardships that people went through, but it still doesn't seem quite right just the same.
Maybe if they develop a "sim" that causes you intense emotional turmoil, extreme physical discomfort, and also causes you to have nightmares and flashbacks for the rest of your life, then we'll have our "fully realistic World War 2 sim." Sorry for the negative thoughts, but this question has been bugging me a bit lately.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You are really trying to beat yourself up over this stuff, eh?

OK, look. As a kid, did you ever play Guns or War? Um, hmm. So did your Dad, and your Dad's Dad. they were a lot closer to these actual events than you are. Did your Dad or your Dad's Dad worry about it, or have a talk with you about trivialising sacrifice made by real people? No, probably not, and the events were much more vivid in many people's memory.

the kind of self-analysis that makes you incapable of doing anything at all for concern over what your actions may be interpreted as, who you might offend, ar what you might disrespect is a great big deal today, and seems to be the way "everyone" wants things to be...except how the hell can you be Human and live up to that?

Stop being worried about being so Politically Correct and be Humanly correct. You aren't trivialising anything by using events in the past as entertainment. If you try to stop being Human of course you're going to feel odd about what you're doing. Human beings DO stuff like this, We write books about it, make movies about it, and now there are video games about it...there were board games about it long before video games existed. Does the game "Battleship" trivialise death during war at Sea? I had a board game called "torpedo run" and another called "fighter-bomber" when I was a kid...neither of those were Bad things. the difference between a video game like this one and those board games is tenuous at best, the only difference is perspective of the player.

If you are really worried about this stuff, you need to learn to look at things from a few different angles or else understand that Humans aren't cuddly fuzzy warm and kind critters after all and we are more or less hard-wired for this sort of thing.

In every War, the young men who fight and die almost universally think of it as a "big adventure". They know people are going to die, for-real, but they don't really understand what it means.

You can have that same "big adventure" without hurting anyone or being hurt yourself. Stop scrutinizing it and have fun.

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Istreliteli
09-18-2004, 09:50 PM
are there any soviet planes featured in CoD or its add on?

Ya sizhu i smotru chuzhoya neba iz chuzhoya okna, i ne vidyem ne odnoi znakom iz zvezdiy,ya hodil po vsyem dorogo iz tuda i suda, a vernusya i ne smog, razgredyet sledi, no isli yest karmane pachka sigaret nachat vsye ne tak uzh plocha na syevodnachniy dyen-Victor Tsoi, Kino (Gruppa Krovi)

Multimetal
09-18-2004, 11:44 PM
Chuck-"politically correct" has nothing to do with it. Humans do seem to be hard-wired for conflict, I agree. I did play guns with sticks, and even spent hours painting my plastic army men, setting them up outside in elaborate fortifications, and pounding them to smithereens with dirt clods in an "artillery bombardment." I have no warm-and-fuzzy illusions about how humans behave towards one another on a global scale. I just think that if I had lived through something like World War 2, the idea of people recreating my experience for entertainment would seem odd at best, and offensive at worst. I still plan to buy Brothers in Arms when it comes out, though. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/35.gif I'm not losing any sleep over the issue, it just is an interesting moral question.

james_ander
09-19-2004, 03:41 PM
Sorry to keep this thread alive. I haven't played many shooters, but I have really been enjoying H&D2. I am in the process of playing CoD, but I have to admit, so far I like H&D2 much better. I find it much more flexible in allowing you to decide how to approach a mission. While it doesn't come close to the "all hell breaking loose" of CoD, it does a super job of creating a tense and suspensful atmosphere. I am only partway through the 2nd of 6 theatres and I have had it since early May. I have been enjoying it slowly like a fine meal and I will definately be going through it again. I find that missions are quite difficult and seem more strategic in nature than CoD, which just seems to carry you along with the script. I would definately recommend trying the demo.

Since this is my kind of shooter, I would really like to know if there are others like it, WW2 or otherwise. Thanks for the help.

Slick750
09-19-2004, 08:39 PM
Here is Hidden and dangerous deluxe (H&D plus expansion pack) **free download** has coop mode:

http://www.gamershell.com/news/9714.html

Copperhead310th
09-20-2004, 05:21 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Istreliteli:
are there any soviet planes featured in CoD or its add on?

Ya sizhu i smotru chuzhoya neba iz chuzhoya okna, i ne vidyem ne odnoi znakom iz zvezdiy,ya hodil po vsyem dorogo iz tuda i suda, a vernusya i ne smog, razgredyet sledi, no isli yest karmane pachka sigaret nachat vsye ne tak uzh plocha na syevodnachniy dyen-Victor Tsoi, Kino (Gruppa Krovi) <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not that i've noticed. and the whole time i'm being buzed by "those damn stukas" and 109's one though keeps going through my skull....
WHERE IN THE SAM HELL IS THE VVS?!!!

Would be nice to see a Yak or an La over head chasing that 109. As for the other planes....the P-47 is cool. very differnt view of it than what i'm used to.
And as for why the RAF are flying B-17's in stand of Lancasters in Uninted Offencive it's cause thy're N0. 90 Squadron. and there Fortress I's. or so the storyline says. All in all 'm pretty happy with this expantion. they've gone in the rigth direction to make it more realistic. now if they'd just come up with
an Online Campain/Coop/ team Vs Ai or team vs team with Ai & bloody it up some more get an "R" Rating that would be cool.
"R" rating would eleminate a lot of the 12- 14 yr old clearsil coverd Bawls junkies.

i was on a server last night on one map and we were having jeep races. lol what a riot. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif As arcadish as it is i get a kick outa blowing up german troops from 10 feet away with my Sherman. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/icon_twisted.gif

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a child but it was a lie
that I told myself when I needed something good
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Now I'm 33 and it isn't me
But I'd think of something better if I could..."Counting Crows

Capt._Tenneal
09-27-2004, 08:52 AM
Sorry for being late here (I just picked up CoD:UO this weekend), but I agree with the original post. This time around it seems that they send unrealistic amounts of enemies at you. Another thing new from the original CoD game are missions where you have to keep a buddy or your platoon leader alive as he completes his mission. It's bad enough trying to keep your health bar from going down rapidly, but having to keep another person alive is beyond me.

And in the RAF mission : why the decision to place the mission in an RAF B-17 ? In daylight ? It would have been more dramatic in the historically realistic environment of a Lancaster at night.

RJNewly
09-27-2004, 11:48 AM
The single version of the game sucks and I doubt that I will ever even finish the Battle of the Bulge campaign which is the firt of 3 I beleive.

Since giving up on the single player I have been playing the multiplayer version of the game and have really started to enjoy it. The larger maps are great especially Karhakov, the Rhine Valley, Foy and others.

Driving the tanks is pretty fricken cool. I just wish they had built a little more realism into the damage modeling. What I mean is it would be nice to take one shot with the Panzers and blow the Shermans up. After all the germand refered to the Shermans as cigarette lighters becasue they were so easy to flame. In real life this happened ofetn. In UO it takes 3 to 4 solid hits before the Sherman burns.

It would also be nice if the armor plating was modeled more realistically on the various sides of the tanks. Historicaly the rear of the tank had the lightest skin but in this game it doesn't seem to show that.

I am now much happier with the game than in my original post.

eddie_slovik
09-27-2004, 11:57 AM
i must admit to cracking the odd wry smile when after repeated close range hits a tank fails to burn in a FPS.in H&D2 the only way to take out the tigers is to shoot them up the rear from point blank range.much more realistic and challenging.

Capt._Tenneal
09-27-2004, 12:50 PM
As far as damage models, to me the Human damage model seems to be inconsistent also. This has been there from the original COD, but is still in COD:UO.

How come a scoped version of a rifle (take any one : Springfield '03, KAR 98, Mosin, etc.) can take down a person in one shot but a regular version of the rifle seems to need 3-5 shots before it can kill ? It doesn't matter if you go for a head shot or not too. I tried a scoped rifle fired at the torso area and the enemy still goes down with one shot.

jetsetsam
09-27-2004, 02:44 PM
Playing COD is like trying to shoot monkeys on the Planet of the Apes. The characters all walk/run like monkeys. It looks too stupid to be worth playing.

H&D2 is a lot more realistic. The add-on is coming out any day with 9 more maps. And it has built in voice comm that works.

Online can be very exciting with 2 teams of 8-10 players each blasting each other.

H&D2 seems very popular in Britain because I've talked to lots of players from there. Or its probably just that Brits are a very bloody minded people.

Sierra_Delta
09-27-2004, 04:52 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Copperhead310th:
And as for why the RAF are flying B-17's in stand of Lancasters in Uninted Offencive it's cause thy're N0. 90 Squadron. and there Fortress I's. or so the storyline says.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

While No. 90 Sqn did fly the Fortress 1 it reformed with the Stirling in 1942.

see http://www.raf.mod.uk/history/h90.html for more info.

The Fortress 1 was actually a B17C, what i've seen in the screen shots of the expansion pack look just like B17G's in US colours but with the RAF roundal.

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

eddie_slovik
09-27-2004, 05:14 PM
"H&D2 seems very popular in Britain because I've talked to lots of players from there. Or its probably just that Brits are a very bloody minded people."

i'll admit to that and the game is superb too.