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BaldieJr
03-29-2004, 10:25 AM
So begins the saga of my cockpit project.

I grabbed two sheets of 1/2-inch plywood from Lowes... 18.00 per sheet.

I got BaldieSr involved in the construction and we were able to complete a great deal in one day, but it wont be completed (sanding/painting) untill this weekend. The following weekend, we begin building another... BaldieSr wants one too!

Total cost so far is $40. I still have to by the padding/covering and some paint.

http://www.62ndfightingfalcons.asn.au/62ndff/projects/cockpit/pra6.jpg

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BaldieJr
03-29-2004, 10:25 AM
So begins the saga of my cockpit project.

I grabbed two sheets of 1/2-inch plywood from Lowes... 18.00 per sheet.

I got BaldieSr involved in the construction and we were able to complete a great deal in one day, but it wont be completed (sanding/painting) untill this weekend. The following weekend, we begin building another... BaldieSr wants one too!

Total cost so far is $40. I still have to by the padding/covering and some paint.

http://www.62ndfightingfalcons.asn.au/62ndff/projects/cockpit/pra6.jpg

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|(_/ ..-""``"'-._ (_/ __,' 42 _/ |
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Skullin
03-29-2004, 10:31 AM
more info please !! how big were the sheets you bought for the whole project? where is that seat from, and what did you do to accommodate rudder pedals ? It looks great !!, i am going to start one soon myself, and want to know exactly what you had to buy.. thanks, and have fun in that bird !! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

TgD Thunderbolt56
03-29-2004, 10:31 AM
You go boi! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/34.gif

btw, did you buy the plans? design your own? Get plans for free? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/354.gif



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BaldieJr
03-29-2004, 10:39 AM
Skullin,

The plywood comes in 4x8 foot sheets. You can use MDF if you don't want to deal with sanding/priming prior to painting. I would have used 1/2-inch mdf, but none was available.

This cockpit is a pain to build because it uses no screws/nails/adhesives. But, since it goes together so easily, its portable http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

The seat is made from 3-inch foam rubber. I still haven't gone shopping for that yet, but I'm guessing it will not be too expensive.

(free) Plans and photos here:
http://www.62ndfightingfalcons.asn.au/62ndff/projects/projects.htm

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Skullin
03-29-2004, 10:48 AM
thanks for the link, and the info !!!! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

TgD Thunderbolt56
03-29-2004, 12:03 PM
Cool. I DL'd and checked it out. I might just go ahead build one for the "in your face" factor with my wife...hehe.



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BinaryFalcon
03-29-2004, 12:31 PM
I built a couple of those a little over a year ago.

Here are some shots of mine.
http://s93008310.onlinehome.us/images/cockpitupdated.jpg

http://s93008310.onlinehome.us/images/controls.jpg

The panels and switches are just decals I made based on some images of F-16 panels I downloaded off the web.

I bought some inkjet transparencies, flipped the images over (so they displayed backwards) and then printed them onto the transparencies. That gave me correct looking panels when viewed through the plastic of the non-printed side.

Once I had all of those done, I spray painted the back (printed side) of the transparencies with white Krylon to make them visible when not backed by a white sheet of paper. That left me with smudge and damage proof plastic panel sheets. From there it was just a matter of cutting them out, spraying the back (painted) side with 3M #77 adhesive and sticking them down on the cockpit where I wanted them to be.

Placement is semi-random, since the wood cockpit isn't the exact same size and shape as a real F-16 cockpit, but overall it looks good I think, and it's fun having a switch on the panel labeled "Nuclear Consent". http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Total cost of the project was probably about $60. Not bad for something that sturdy and finished.

The seat cushion is just one I picked up at Wal-Mart for about $6 in the patio section. It fits perfectly, and is even close to the right green color if you flip it over to hide the striped part.

JR_Greenhorn
03-29-2004, 12:52 PM
Regarding seats:
Due to some special personal circumstances, I have a bit of expertise on construction of seat padding.

In this area, my suggestion is to use a cheap foam sleeping pad (the type for camping) for the base padding. These pads can be found relatively cheap or free (discarded by Boy Scout troops, for example). They are often around .5" thick, and are of fairly high density foam, good for a seat's base padding.

Next, lighter-density foam can often be found at fabric stores, such a Jo-Ann's fabrics (might be a regional chain, I'm not sure).
There, I found two densities of foam in 3" or so thicknesses. Stacking the lighter density on top makes for a cushy seat.

When cutting all this foam, an electric turkey carving knife works great.

BaldieJr
03-29-2004, 01:18 PM
Greenhorn,

Right-on. The seat cushions were a concern, but I like your idea. Thanks!

BinaryFalcon,
Nice looking setup! 2 questions though:
How much knee-room do you have? I want to use two drawer-slides to make a keyboard tray that slides, but I'm starting to think there isn't enough room.
How far from you is your monitor? I am concerned about TiR since its seems to work best about 18 inches.

Thanks!

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BinaryFalcon
03-29-2004, 02:19 PM
Knee room is fine. The distance from the "desk" part of it is adjustable, since the cockpit isn't all one piece. You can set the front part back as far (or close) as you like.

I built mine before the keyboard tray was an option, so I'm not sure about distance on that. One of these days I'll probably make the extra 3 parts or so to get the tray, but for now I'm happy with it as is.

Monitor distance is probably close to 3 feet when I'm sitting back in the chair. I usually lean forward a little when using the TrackIR, but mostly I've found the distance isn't too much of a problem.

adlabs6
03-29-2004, 02:54 PM
A note to those who may consider using MDF (Medium Density Fiberboard) for their cockpit...

You should wear a mask while cutting any lumbers, but MDF especially so. My father is a very skilled craftsman, and has used MDF on several recent projects, including one for his custom TV cabinet/entertainment center. The powdered saw dust that came off that MDF was VERY, VERY FINE in size, everything was coated, covered, and generally caked in the stuff. I don't even want to think about what would happen if you inhaled the mess. Wear a mask.

Just so you know.

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x6BL_Brando
03-29-2004, 03:11 PM
I built my pit from 18mm plywood, also preferring to avoic MDF due to the extremely fine dust involved. I managed to find a used but clean Recaro-type bucket-seat with a headrest, and it is adjustable for rake & lumbar as well as having a sliding rail for getting to the right distance from the pedals.

Car seats are excellent for the job, and give an ergonomic edge for long periods of flight. My wife just rolls her eyes http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

_VR_ScorpionWorm
03-29-2004, 03:17 PM
Hey I got those plans too.(got them from you last time you posted) and I am fixing to get on the project myself. My only problem is where to find some good quality foam. WoooHooo cant wait. Good bye corner desk HELLOOO cockpit.

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heywooood
03-29-2004, 03:22 PM
Hmmmmmm... now I'm picturing you characters in your Roger Ramjet fuzzy Pj's, super modified bicycle helmets with the athletic cup/oxygen masks, the therapist with that look on his face as he is jotting his notes about you and observing all this and humming to himself from the other side of the safety glass.

heywooood
03-29-2004, 03:27 PM
BtW .. my Me 110 'pit is almost finished and my therapist wants the first "flight"..

TartarSauce23rd
03-29-2004, 09:06 PM
I wish I had the time and the money to invest into a project like building a cocpit.

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WUAF_Badsight
03-29-2004, 09:44 PM
this thread rawks !

jenikovtaw
03-29-2004, 09:47 PM
Ah, invest in a bigger, flatter monitor!
(or just bigger)

Otherwise , very cool!

BaldieJr
03-30-2004, 03:31 AM
The Fiance has spoken: it shall be painted red. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/blink.gif

Check these out:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2995931358&category=1467

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enraged_chimp..
03-30-2004, 05:16 AM
cheers for the designs , im planning on buliding 2 thead to head simulators for my cadet squadron running original il2 as the budget is constrained, also does anyone know how to make cheap rudder pedals will racing car ones do like ther ones u get with a steering wheel do?

being a necessity dosen't stop it sucking!

TgD Thunderbolt56
03-30-2004, 06:43 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BaldieJr:
The Fiance has spoken: it shall be painted red. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Why?

Not that it's important 'cause at least she's letting you. Oh btw, good thinking on doing this while she's still a "fiance'" http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/59.gif



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BaldieJr
03-30-2004, 06:56 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Thunderbolt56:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BaldieJr:
The Fiance has spoken: it shall be painted red. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Why?

Not that it's important 'cause at least she's letting you. Oh btw, good thinking on doing this while she's still a "fiance'" http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/59.gif

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Because I refused to paint it pink! She put up a good fight, but in the end, we both agreed to red http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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Heavy_Weather
03-30-2004, 07:41 AM
great job, dont forget your skins and kill marks http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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SergeVE
03-31-2004, 05:08 PM
to scorpionworm1 :
You can buy good quality foam from self-employed people or small companies which are active in the upholstery-business.
You know , the kind of people who can also restore an antique chair or sofa .
Just look them up in the yellow pages .
I use hard density foam , 10 cm thick for the seat , and 5 cm thick for the back.

p1ngu666
03-31-2004, 05:53 PM
mdf is nasty stuff. i get on better with real wood http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
MDF is made (i think) of dust, its compressed and maybe steamed and u get that board. chipboard is same, just bigger bitshttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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