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MB_Avro
08-22-2004, 08:55 AM
I was testing a co-op that I had just made.My side comprised Blenheims with bomb load escorted by Hurricanes against bf109s. On the approach of the bf109s I typed the command for 'all' to attack the incoming.I assumed that only the Hurricanes would respond... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/blink.gif

The four Blenheims then dropped their payload and entered int a dogfight!! One damaged a 109 with its single fixed wing mounted browning combined with the turret gunner firing forward.

I took a screenshot of the event as a desktop!

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MB_Avro

MB_Avro
08-22-2004, 08:55 AM
I was testing a co-op that I had just made.My side comprised Blenheims with bomb load escorted by Hurricanes against bf109s. On the approach of the bf109s I typed the command for 'all' to attack the incoming.I assumed that only the Hurricanes would respond... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/blink.gif

The four Blenheims then dropped their payload and entered int a dogfight!! One damaged a 109 with its single fixed wing mounted browning combined with the turret gunner firing forward.

I took a screenshot of the event as a desktop!

Regards
MB_Avro

basdirks
08-22-2004, 08:59 AM
Well that's just marvelous, could we by any chance see this picture you're speaking of ?

MB_Avro
08-22-2004, 09:13 AM
Here's the screenshot..


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v82/MB_Avro/grab0001.jpg

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MB_Avro

sniper-690
08-22-2004, 09:40 AM
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XyZspineZyX
08-22-2004, 10:41 AM
Well, Blenhiems *were* fighters as well as bombers (and horrible at both), and perhaps they were the later fighter model, so labeled as such by the sim, they respond to "fighter commands".

El Turo
08-22-2004, 10:54 AM
WOOT!


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In my previous life over at WWIIOL, I've been known to give a few fighters a run for their money in my Blen. Hehe.. weeeeeeeee!

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MB_Avro
08-22-2004, 12:46 PM
Just a few more (online) screenshots to illustrate the performance of this historically neglected 1940 fighter-bomber.

Who needs a Spitire now?? The time has come to make the Bristol Blenheim flyable...bomb and zoom will rule the skies...


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v82/MB_Avro/grab0000.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v82/MB_Avro/grab0007.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v82/MB_Avro/grab0009.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v82/MB_Avro/grab0013.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v82/MB_Avro/grab0014.jpg

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MB_Avro

FI WILLIE
08-22-2004, 12:47 PM
I had a bunch of B-25's do the same thing in QMB one day.. It was hilarious watching them chase 109's all over the map!! They were relentless too.

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MB_Bennett
08-22-2004, 01:17 PM
I do not believe that this thread gives an example of the fighter capabilities of the Blenheim.......I do however believe that this thread gives a very good example of the superior behaviour, skills and dedication of those very brave aircrews that took to the skies to resist the unwelcome actions of brutish European invaders of the time.....Thanks avro for reminding us all...

LStarosta
08-22-2004, 02:16 PM
Ehrm... The Blenheim was used as a nightfighter until it was replaced by Beaufighters and Mosquitos. The Blenheim wasn't really as bad a plane as most people make it out to be. Still, you can't really compare a light bomber, per se, with a single seat fighter. What made the plane horrible in the bomber role was common belief of officials that a single Vickers gun was enough defence for a "fast" bomber.

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XyZspineZyX
08-22-2004, 04:19 PM
Historically neglected??? I beg to differ.

The Germans and the Japanese paid a LOT of attention to Blenheims... which usually resulted in flaming Blens.

It was just a piece of sh** aircraft, is all.

MB_Avro
08-22-2004, 04:46 PM
Stiglr...

Not for the first time..you hit the nail on the head...the Blenheim was ok in 1936...but a death-trap for the R.A.F.in 1940.

I read somewhere...that it was not unusual for squadrons of Blenheins to be sent out on daylight bombing raids from England against invasion targets in France during the summer of 1940 (without escort) only for all to be destroyed by bf109s.

In memory of those crews (who are now forgotten) maybe we should pause for thought and consider what this 'sim' or 'game' represents?

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MB_Avro

PBNA-Boosher
08-22-2004, 05:03 PM
Lol!

I can't wait to shoot down Zeros with my SBD-3 Dauntless in PF!

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Tooz_69GIAP
08-22-2004, 05:06 PM
Well, in the early days of 1940, quite often raids would be carried out by Skua, and Swordfishes, and the like, and these would be escorted. And what would the escort be??? They would be Blenheims!!!!!! It was rare that if intecepted, more than one or two Blens got back, never mind the aircraft doing the actual bombing!!!

I have a book somewhere that describes some of these raids from accounts from the actual pilots. Was some good reading!!

whit ye looking at, ya big jessie?!?!

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XyZspineZyX
08-22-2004, 05:15 PM
Don't forget the Fairey Battles. They were actually worse.

And Monty, don't get the idea that I'm anything more than a German hardware fan who does like to expose some of the 'rose-colored glasses' Allied thinking for what it is. To suggest otherwise is to not only be incorrect, but to be insultingly so.

To Avro:
Yes, they sent them on attempts to blow up some key bridges in Holland to channel the German assault, and they were just mauled. I recall flying WWIIOL and really licking my chops every time I saw a Blen. One short burst from a Emil and it was Bristol BBQ. I must've shot down at least 50 - 100 Blens, and been killed by them all of 2 times total. They were utterly useless.

Monty_Thrud
08-22-2004, 05:29 PM
Stiglr, old boy...no harm intended, i usually enjoy reading your posts, and agree they were deathtraps, but both sides had them, well what i mean is latest and greatest early war then later war badly designed out of date warbirds that didnt cut the mustard...http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

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julien673
08-22-2004, 05:35 PM
its normal http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

IV_JG51_Prien
08-22-2004, 06:05 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I recall flying WWIIOL and really licking my chops every time I saw a Blen. One short burst from a Emil and it was Bristol BBQ<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I see a blenheim when I'm manning a bofors in WWIIOL and think the exact same thing.......

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XyZspineZyX
08-22-2004, 07:02 PM
But Monty, Blens weren't even "latest and greatest during early war"; they were shot down in droves from the very beginning.

An execreble aircraft, the designers should have been brought up on charges.

Destroyer110
08-22-2004, 07:47 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MB_Avro:
I was testing a co-op that I had just made.My side comprised Blenheims with bomb load escorted by Hurricanes against bf109s. On the approach of the bf109s I typed the command for 'all' to attack the incoming.I assumed that only the Hurricanes would respond... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/blink.gif

The four Blenheims then dropped their payload and entered int a dogfight!! One damaged a 109 with its single fixed wing mounted browning combined with the turret gunner firing forward.

I took a screenshot of the event as a desktop!

Regards
MB_Avro<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes, been there .. I set up a libyan scenario and asked my wingman for help .. he ignored me, being the closest, but 3 BLenheims 10 miles way responded by dropping their bomb loads, ignoring their mission objectives (bombing run), and responed to my call! ????

I'm always amused by British early war aircraft. It gives the impression all the talented designers were busy having a life elsewhere when the war broke out, leaving The empire with their pants down.

As a side note, imagine the value of the Blenheim with the turrent containing 4 20mm Cannons! ok .. ok .. I was one of those pre-war aircraft designers http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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SkyChimp
08-22-2004, 08:38 PM
The B-25 likes to chase down enemy planes, too.

http://members.cox.net/us.fighters/b25.jpg

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MB_Avro
08-23-2004, 12:59 AM
When the Blenheim entered RAF service during the mid 1930s it was faster than the bi-plane fighters of the time and was regarded as a 'hot-ship'that no existing fighter could catch.

By 1940 the bf109 changed that belief and the Blenheim crews were wasted in suicidal unescorted daylight attacks. The criminal continued deployment of these missions was the responsibility of the RAF command.

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MB_Avro

LStarosta
08-25-2004, 10:34 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^

Much like the He111.. Except it had more than one defensive MG...

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