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XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 01:51 AM
I'm curious, what do you think of the IL-2 FB community as a whole.

To be fair, I will not influence this poll, I will keep my opinion out.

Cheers,

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XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 01:51 AM
I'm curious, what do you think of the IL-2 FB community as a whole.

To be fair, I will not influence this poll, I will keep my opinion out.

Cheers,

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XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 01:54 AM
to many trolls around


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XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 01:55 AM
They are wonderful, wonderful people!

XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 01:56 AM
Well TaZ, In my humble opinion, I think, on the hole, preperation H feels good.../i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif
No, really I think it's a necessary evil, so to speak. Although there is a lot of whining that goes on here, it's important for us to have a place we can "vent" when we need to, and get advice when we need it (or when we dont even want it!), or a place we can just have fun with. It's kind of neat to have a place to just goof around when we need to. I can't tell you how many days I've had a crappy attitude at work, then hop on the board and get into some real off the wall conversations with someone. Always lifts me up enough to drudge through the rest of the day. So, to end this incredibly long litany, I think it's important.---Hammer

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XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 02:00 AM
It's a litle hostile, but it is a flight sim that's about war, and we do kill each other. It's competitive in the game, and on the forum. I like it, because it's not boring.

If you want a easy going, bore you to death forum. Try the Myst forum.

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XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 02:03 AM
BuzzU wrote:
- It's a litle hostile, but it is a flight sim that's
- about war, and we do kill each other. It's
- competitive in the game, and on the forum. I like
- it, because it's not boring.
-
- If you want a easy going, bore you to death forum.
- Try the Myst forum.


I guess you didn't read the question Buzz.

It was "what do you think of the IL-2 FB community as a whole".

The poll is not just about this forum, but the ENTIRE community...

Cheers,

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XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 02:03 AM
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XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 02:05 AM
There are quite a few people her that are quite opinionated. -- Just my opinion.


Relax people , It's just a freaking game!!!!

XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 02:09 AM
Taz,

What I said applys to other forums,and HL. What else is there? All the offline players wuo never post? I don't consider them part of the community, because who has a clue what they're thinking?

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XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 02:15 AM
Overall...IMHO...very good.

As with any community this large, there's bound to be a few, well, 'miscreants'. (Most of the time) I just ignore them.

I find most of the community friendly and fun to be around.





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07-10-2003, 03:33 AM
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XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 03:37 AM
As a steady reader of the polls but seldom poster, I can say this community has a lot of everything. A lot of great info- great personalities,education, whiners, trolls and meatheads. But such is life. I usually read the boards to get me in the mood to play FB. I do think that we have all been spoiled w/ such a great sim as FB. We get way too antsy and critical over such minor details. Life is too short to complain about the bad foward visibility of the FW 190. But hey, we are all Virtual fighter jocks- attitude comes with the job! S!

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XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 03:48 AM
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XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 04:07 AM
Im a longtime lurker and haven't made much of an effort to make a name for myself in the flight sim community but i have been coming to these boards since the first il2 all those year(s) ago. I'm not a 'military' sim guy but more of a well rounded computer gamer, and anything with depth and strategy is attractive to me.

The community is, IMO, very Byzantine and mired in contentiousness and nationalism. While all forums (and especially game forums) inevitably developed confrontational behavior, ostensibly here most are adults; yet it seems at times even more juevenile than most. To me some lame kid whom posts "OMG OMG yoO sucks SO BAd" is infinitely preferable to whining adults whom write reams of vapid posts displaying utter disregard to politeness, whittle enormous successes like FB into a trembling failure of quibles and imperfections, and generally "do the devils work" in poisoning the whole community and ruining this dying genre.

**
Sure there are over 120 flying planes in Forgotten Battles but i bought this game to fly the [/i]Focke Wolf 190 F-8 mk.II bis /B3.2[i] and now how can i see over that 2cm windscreen!?! And gone to the effort of calling a dozen people and will post a dozen picture to prove its wrong! Don't blame me for killing civilian flight sims its the developers who got it wrong! What do you mean do i have perspective?!? How can i have perspective WHEN I CANT SEE OVER THE NOSE OF MY PLANE!
**

Thats what i mean by Byzantine; flight simming is a dying genre that was ressurected, literally, by one man's immense vision, dedication and hard work. Yet instead of looking to the east and noticing the hordes of Turks poring through the borders daily the community chooses to turn back again to the comfortable and meaningless arguements and bickering they so enjoy. Aren't there people on this il2sturmovik.com that don't even own the game??

Oh, and i hate sigs. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif All these insane page long quotes and 4mb pics, ugh. I hate reading this forum for that one reason alone. There really should be a way to disable viewing them as an individual option.

XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 04:35 AM
Vostok has some interesting points. Gotta wonder if some people just aren't happy unles they 're miserable as much as they complain.

I am glad to find some reasonable folks who share this weird interest in WW2 aviation. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif



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XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 04:43 AM
Vostok wrote:
- Im a longtime lurker and haven't made much of an
- effort to make a name for myself in the flight sim
- community but i have been coming to these boards
- since the first il2 all those year(s) ago. I'm not
- a 'military' sim guy but more of a well rounded
- computer gamer, and anything with depth and strategy
- is attractive to me.
-
- The community is, IMO, very Byzantine and mired in
- contentiousness and nationalism. While all forums
- (and especially game forums) inevitably developed
- confrontational behavior, ostensibly here most are
- adults; yet it seems at times even more juevenile
- than most. To me some lame kid whom posts "OMG OMG
- yoO sucks SO BAd" is infinitely preferable to
- whining adults whom write reams of vapid posts
- displaying utter disregard to politeness, whittle
- enormous successes like FB into a trembling failure
- of quibles and imperfections, and generally "do the
- devils work" in poisoning the whole community and
- ruining this dying genre.
-
- **
- Sure there are over 120 flying planes in Forgotten
- Battles but i bought this game to fly the [/i]Focke
- Wolf 190 F-8 mk.II bis /B3.2[i] and now how can i
- see over that 2cm windscreen!?! And gone to the
- effort of calling a dozen people and will post a
- dozen picture to prove its wrong! Don't blame me
- for killing civilian flight sims its the developers
- who got it wrong! What do you mean do i have
- perspective?!? How can i have perspective WHEN I
- CANT SEE OVER THE NOSE OF MY PLANE!
- **
-
- Thats what i mean by Byzantine; flight simming is a
- dying genre that was ressurected, literally, by one
- man's immense vision, dedication and hard work. Yet
- instead of looking to the east and noticing the
- hordes of Turks poring through the borders daily the
- community chooses to turn back again to the
- comfortable and meaningless arguements and bickering
- they so enjoy. Aren't there people on this
- il2sturmovik.com that don't even own the game??
-
- Oh, and i hate sigs. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif All these insane page long
- quotes and 4mb pics, ugh. I hate reading this forum
- for that one reason alone. There really should be a
- way to disable viewing them as an individual option.

Amen

The FW-190 is especially hard to land when the nose blocks the view of the runway, I personally don't believe that pilots had to conduct instrument landings in those days. We need a nose down whem deploying flaps.

rgds

XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 06:48 AM
Used to be better, now 49% are whiners and 49% buttmunchers. The leftover 2% are ok.


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XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 06:58 AM
I think its a great community. If you do your best to ignore the trolls, not become a troll, and just take the people with something to say and the good stuff that comes here it is a great place. I would give it 4 stars just for things like the Mudmovers site, that great patch for recording tracks in FB, and all the great skins that so many of our talented skinners have done.

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XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 08:11 AM
Werre_ wrote:
- Used to be better, now 49% are whiners and 49%
- buttmunchers. The leftover 2% are ok.

Noone cares what a fin thinks.

Just look at the fansite at mainpage.

The community is responsible for:
- Sturmovik Technica
- Mudmovers
- IL-2 Manager
- Forgotten Wars
- Virtual Online War (with it's incredible stats engine)
- Logparsers
- All the community built aircrafts
- All the missions and campaigns
- The bugreports in ORR. Some really detailed
- Skins, skins and then some skins
- FAQs and How-Tos
- KillJoys incredible little bear-game
- Etc
- Etc

This community is really dedicated to enhance the gaming experience.
All this is why I voluntered as a mod so I in my weird way could pay back a small part of what this great community has done for me.

If you like Werre and some others think this community sux then I suggest u check out other ones (Buzz mentioned Myst).

For instance, in this forum all b!tch around in a mainly heartly way but when a newbee posts for help all make joint venture to help him/her out.


In one word, this community is...<h2>Peachy</h2>

XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 08:14 AM
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XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 08:18 AM
ill say one thing about this community. only about 5% of the people that post here fly in fb. unless everyone is in alias in here. oh and though i do find the pics funny of taz i also think its not cool. and i dont even like the guy...but at least he really flys online.and the true definition of troll is anyone that posts here that doesnt play the game.

Right about now your thinking to yourself IS he an Ace or isnt he an Ace? well you just gotta ask yourself one question...do ya feel lucky? ...well do ya... PUNK ??? www.fighterjocks.net (http://www.fighterjocks.net) home of the Real Sim Aces

XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 08:34 AM
Reddeth, I'd wager most people here fly online. I know I do...

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XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 08:40 AM
I think those of us who have been around for a good long time are still ok /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

And a few of the newer pilots.. They're not bad..

And, to be clear, I'm not talking about flying skills... I know some good pilots out there that I'd be seen in public with... /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Overall, there is a lot of whining.. a lot of b*tching... a LOT of bickering.. But to the few people who take the time to make the bickering, b*tching, and whining educational and even tempered, S! to you. To the trolls... Nevermind..



If I can digress for a moment, I'd like to put something out there which I've been thinking about recently.. The RB3D community is EXCELLENT.. the game.. however many times its been modded, is lacking, and dying /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif But I think a lot of us purests would like that kind of close knit community where a S! means something, its not just meaningless jargon. On the otherhand, we also seek competition and good games to play.. the only way were going to get good competition is if we have a large player base, and thats also the only way were going to get a good game.. If we can convince Developers and more importantly, producers, that they can make money off of Sims.. Look no farther then Jane's Combat Sims... oh....my.....god..... /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

I'm personally comming out and just saying this: Thank you to all the whiners, b*tchers, bickerers, and trolls, for paying for this game. In a perfect world, many of you would be frustrated and would just let the game sit on your shelf, rotting away in its box, so we could enjoy the fruits of your $49.99, but since its not a perfect world.. I guess we'll keep you /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

And if that sounds arrogant.. Well, I guess too bad, because while there are a ton of people in the Il2/FB community that it would be great to get together with at an Air Museum someplace, there are a lot more I would like to get together with, and launch them into space...


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XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 09:02 AM
Everybody asks themselves now. Am I going to the Air Museum, or outer space.

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XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 09:12 AM
Trolls, hijackers and smart mouth jerks have derailed this entire forum. The purpose of this place was to provide a place for the exchange of information and get help with a game - PERIOD! This isn't the place to "vent"; there are self-help and 12 step program sites all over the web for that.It's not a chat room. Polls are not relevant here, either. This isn't a democracy and it doesn't matter what posterss think about moderators or UBI. All off topic threads and every good thread that gets derailed should be locked without comment and anyone who starts a rant about fairness or a need to vent or freedom of speech should be shown the door. Maybe Oleg and Hunter might visit here again when this place is populated only by newcomers and those you want to discuss the game. I feel sorry for those dozen or so guys who seem to spend all their off hours here.

XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 09:24 AM
I think all the people in our community are just super

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Tully__
07-10-2003, 11:29 AM
On the whole I like the community or I wouldn't be moderating here or flying at HL. I also browse other forums associated with this community (when I have time) and get the same feeling there.

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Hunter82
07-10-2003, 12:24 PM
I agree with Ven,Helos,Buzz, and my great grand mother .....and who the hell listened to a Fin? I want names!! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif


For the most part the community is very good. I've been on these boards since prior to IL2 release and the current state is probably the most divided and petty I have seen it.



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XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 12:45 PM
Now now Da Buzz /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

There was a time when we rode into the skies on each others wings...

Why would I want to punt you into space /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

To be honest, no, the Museum.. I strongly differentiate between people who talk a lot about what they know, and people who don't know enough to stop talking. You're (mostly /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif ) in the Former catagory /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

S!

Jazz

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XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 12:45 PM
Winky Winky!

Very funny.

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XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 12:59 PM
Ritchie needs to lose some weight.

XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 02:17 PM
Where do I vote? And what's the score?

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07-10-2003, 03:52 PM
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XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 04:53 PM
What is this "poll" about?


Is there someone cleaning the forums again?

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XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 06:05 PM
leonid05 wrote:
- What is this "poll" about?

It's about dropping the P-51D from the Add-on. Or was that another thread?
Hoo, man. It's soo easy to get confused these days.

Wait, I remember. Was about the community.
Here's a quote from another thread:

HaukWind01 wrote:
- I wanna thank you all very much for the advice to a
- noob,.........I must say that with all the online
- games I have played, this online community is the
- most helpful towards noobs, and all in general.
- I have only been playing FB online a few days and
- every time I do, after confessing that I am new,
- everyone gives a helping hand, and I havent yet had
- any name calling like I have seen in other games.
- Again, thanx to all and maybe one day I will be able
- to help noobs myself, not to mention have the
- ability to shoot some of you
- down,................lol

XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 06:13 PM
Thanks for those who took the time to seriously post.

I thought a poll might be a good thing at this time, after numerous posts about the community being fractured to the point of no return...

But, as you can see, even if I don't post an opinion some people will attack and disparage anything I'm part of ad hominem...or for that matter anyone else who calls for civility. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

It would have been nice and more fitting for their agenda if they had just voiced their opinion for the poll, unfortunately it doesn't appear that they could set aside their petty animosities for even one post.

What a sad sort they are...

See ya, wouldn't wanna be ya! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 06:14 PM
......It is fantastic that grown-up men all over the world will shout and scream and cry over some pixels moving across a computer screen.

This behaviour - unknown in the history of psychology - only exists because FB simulator makes people feel they are in the real world..........

Freycinet


Excerpts taken from his full post in Olegs Room, it says it for me, grown man (and a few very cool women) having a blast together, sharing an experience and interest.


Good group

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XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 06:58 PM
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There you go, Taz - your own personal violin. Now, as to your "poll." Where is it? I don't see any sign of a serious poll. "What do you think of it" is such a broad question, the answers are very probably not comparable.

If you're actually serious about this, put in the effort to write good questions and then set up a link where people can be polled.

And before you start with the "agenda" stuff, I would remind you that *you* apparently had one - to destroy the PL. At least, you chortled with joy and claimed credit for its destruction here.

You're now grieved to find people don't like the result (or you) much? Can't have it both ways. And you're not helping yourself much by lecturing the forum and demanding apologies. Who are you to lecture us?

Just something to think about.





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XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 07:11 PM
TaZ_Attack wrote:
- I thought a poll might be a good thing at this
- time, but as you can see, even if I don't post an
- opinion some people will attack and disparage
- anything I'm part of.


You thought a troll "might be a good thing at this time", you mean.

No change there./i/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

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XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 07:28 PM
75% of the peeps on this forum are pretentious twits who think their collective doodie doesn't stink.

Especially a certain Eddie Haskellesque towering canadian that I won't mention by name.


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XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 07:30 PM
Which percentage are you in?

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XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 07:33 PM
The other humble 25% of course!

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XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 08:36 PM
The community as a whole is great.


This thread, and trolls like the one who posted it, sucks.


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XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 09:45 PM
Aside from the trolls and the "Aces-who claim-20,000-kills-and-cry-if-you-don't-believe-them", the people here are great.

XyZspineZyX
07-11-2003, 12:15 AM
Sorry Helos, but as for 'dead sexy' I think Fat Bastard (Austin Power/the Spy who Shagged me) would win that title.

http://itsb.ucsf.edu/~vcr/APFat.html

Now that's dead sexy.




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XyZspineZyX
07-14-2003, 02:56 PM
This thread is a good example of the community, I would say! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

***END POLL***

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XyZspineZyX
07-14-2003, 04:26 PM
i came here to meet with a good friend. his name is olam mulambe. unfortunately he doesn‚¬īt seem to like polls... /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif





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XyZspineZyX
07-14-2003, 05:06 PM
BuzzU wrote:
- Taz,
-
- What I said applys to other forums,and HL. What
- else is there? All the offline players wuo never
- post? I don't consider them part of the community,
- because who has a clue what they're thinking?

Some of us offliners try to stay involved in these forums. I've learned a lot, heard a lot of new ideas and opinions. The community at large seems very passionate about the game, regardless of whether we play online or not. I don't play online because I 1)am terrible at it and 2)my ping rates are abysmal.


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XyZspineZyX
07-14-2003, 05:22 PM
Aardvark892

I mentioned offliners, because if they don't post. We know nothing about them. An onliner who never posts, is different, because we can meet them online.

There are probably more offliners who never post on a forum than anything else. Can we call them part of the community? I think a person needs to get involved to be part of a community.

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XyZspineZyX
07-14-2003, 05:28 PM
i think i agree with taz that this thread is a good representation of the community - good and bad.

why do many people have it in for taz by the way?

also
Vostok wrote:

- Oh, and i hate sigs. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif All these insane page long
- quotes and 4mb pics, ugh. I hate reading this forum
- for that one reason alone. There really should be a
- way to disable viewing them as an individual option.
-
i think the sigs add a bit of colour to the forum and help people create a bit of individuality. in the past i may have agreed with u - that is before the size and file size limt was introduced - sigs were 4mb then and almost filled the screen too, i think you'd be hard pressed to find many screen sized or over 100k sigs nowadays though - if u really want to get rid of them turn of images in yopur internet options.

XyZspineZyX
07-14-2003, 05:32 PM
Black.Six wrote:
- i think i agree with taz that this thread is a good
- representation of the community - good and bad.
-
- why do many people have it in for taz by the way?

The trolls had to band together cause I beat them down individually! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
07-14-2003, 05:46 PM
I thought Buzz's point was interesting, that it's bound to be a little hostile beacuse we're playing an aggressive game. I think its more to do with gender. The point-scoring (on the forums, I mean, not in the game) and the cliquery I find a bit tiresome, but in a gang of (nearly all) males either in their youth or trying to recapture their youth, you're always going to get some of this. OTOH, Il2/FB will attract a more mature, more educated crowd than the online gaming average because of the steep learning curve and the emphasis on historical accuracy.

On these boards, I think things have improved a bit since completewasteofspace opened its doors. Gave some people a chance to blow off a lot of steam and left this place a little more sedate.

In my limited experience of online dogfight servers on Hyperlobby, I've been very impressed about how supportive, courteous and friendly the online flying community is. Obviously you get the odd prat, but not enough to spoil things.

Overall - hey, we're great, aren't we? :-)

XyZspineZyX
07-14-2003, 05:50 PM
I agree...BuzzU's point was very enlightening. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

I never looked at it that way, and it did help me to get a handle on all of the angst...

If I got shot down all the time I would be pi$$ed too! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
07-14-2003, 05:54 PM
"daisy, daisy...."

BTW, what does the community have to do with the product FB, I thought Ubi's elimination of the pilots lounge made this division very clear. Off topic, mods!

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ZG77_Nagual
07-14-2003, 05:59 PM
I think this community really wants a P63

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XyZspineZyX
07-14-2003, 06:00 PM
My opinion? Quite a few knowledgable, and friendly folks, who do a lot of research, and go out of their way to help the new guys.

They are the ones who make the IL-2 community strong, and I appreciate all of the help and courtesy they have given me.


To all of those self-proclaimed forum police, who whine to others about using the barely-working search function: Go screw yourselves.

To the rest of the kiddies: Read my sig.

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XyZspineZyX
07-14-2003, 06:01 PM
/\/\u77,

\/\/|-|@7 \/\/0u1d j00 k/\/0\/\/ @80u7 +3|-| (0/\/\/\/\u/\/!+y |*|-|r3@k ?

j00 d0/\/'+ 3\/3/\/ |=ly @/\/y/\/\0r3 /\/008

r0|=l/\/\@0 /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
07-14-2003, 06:08 PM
TaZ_Attack wrote:
- /\/\u77,
-
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- (0/\/\/\/\u/\/!+y |*|-|r3@k ?
-
- j00 d0/\/'+ 3\/3/\/ |=ly @/\/y/\/\0r3 /\/008
-
- r0|=l/\/\@0
- (|-|33r$,


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XyZspineZyX
07-14-2003, 06:08 PM
BPond wrote:
- My opinion? Quite a few knowledgable, and friendly
- folks, who do a lot of research, and go out of their
- way to help the new guys.
-
- They are the ones who make the IL-2 community
- strong, and I appreciate all of the help and
- courtesy they have given me.
-
-
- To all of those self-proclaimed forum police, who
- whine to others about using the barely-working
- search function: Go screw yourselves.
-
- To the rest of the kiddies: Read my sig.


I read your sig...it's all babble to me. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

The WWII combat flight sim community used to be all about mutual respect and courtesy...

The noobs had to prove their worth before they were accepted, I got whacked left & right before I could put up a decent fight. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif



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XyZspineZyX
07-14-2003, 06:20 PM
TaZ_Attack wrote:
- I'm curious, what do you think of the IL-2 FB
- community as a whole.
-
- To be fair, I will not influence this poll, I will
- keep my opinion out.
-
- Cheers,

Love you all!

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XyZspineZyX
07-14-2003, 06:22 PM
Hey commie,

Was that you (Col_commie) that left the server the other night after I PKed you twice in a row with the same plane? /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
07-14-2003, 06:26 PM
"The WWII combat flight sim community used to be all about mutual respect and courtesy..."


That's way it still SHOULD be! Whose idea was it, that a new player had to be hazed online by teenagers who only post, and never play?

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XyZspineZyX
07-14-2003, 06:27 PM
TaZ_Attack wrote:
- Hey commie,
-
- Was that you (Col_commie) that left the server the
- other night after I PKed you twice in a row with the
- same plane?


No.

Sorry to spoil your gloating.

And leave the 1337 out, it only makes you look even more ridculous. And childish.

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07-14-2003, 06:38 PM
commie1 wrote:
- TaZ_Attack wrote:
-- Hey commie,
--
-- Was that you (Col_commie) that left the server the
-- other night after I PKed you twice in a row with the
-- same plane?
-
-
- No.
-
- Sorry to spoil your gloating.
-
- And leave the 1337 out, it only makes you look even
- more ridculous. And childish.


j00 r |*|-|33r3d 0|= /\/\3|-| 1337 $k!11$ /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

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XyZspineZyX
07-14-2003, 06:42 PM
TaZ_Attack wrote:

- ! |*\/\//\/-/_ j00 /\/008!


In your dreams buddy.

Now start acting your age, not your hat size!/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

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XyZspineZyX
07-14-2003, 06:43 PM
Taz Wrote: "j00 r |*|-|33r3d 0|= /\/\3|-| 1337 $k!11$

! |*\/\//\/-/_ j00 /\/008!



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Translation=

I'm a spamming hypocrit who cares nothing about this forum or the FB community, the off topic loungers didn't appreciate my top ten lists stolen from chain mails, hence forth I quit the forum, then was resurrected like Lazarus with the intention to troll those that did me wrong for my own self-amusement.

and I need to gloat at the possibility of shooting down a fellow forumer cause it happens so rarely.


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XyZspineZyX
07-14-2003, 06:46 PM
Thanks for the translation Mutt, I was wondering what that asshat was talking about.

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XyZspineZyX
07-14-2003, 06:49 PM
R_Mutt wrote:
- and I need to gloat at the possibility of shooting
- down a fellow forumer cause it happens so rarely.


Actually, I shoot down fellow forumers quite regularly Mutt...then you wouldn't have a clue since you haven't flown online for months. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

I wasn't gloating, I wondered if it was commie, I never see guys like you or him online...other than here on the forums.

For all I know commie could be RBJ, kinda like HAL is Crop Duster...of course, you already knew that, right?

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Message Edited on 07/14/0302:01PM by TaZ_Attack

XyZspineZyX
07-14-2003, 06:49 PM
TaZ_Attack wrote:
- I'm curious, what do you think of the IL-2 FB
- community as a whole.
-
- To be fair, I will not influence this poll, I will
- keep my opinion out.



"To be fair"?
This suggests that you may have narcissistic tendencies and actually think your opinion holds more weight.

"I will not influence this poll, I will keep my opinion out."
/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif ....... oh you were serious. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif ....... /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

My opinion of the FB community as a whole is that all in all it's pretty good.
Well, aside from that washed-up has-been high school football joke . err jock that expects everyone to except a social order equivalent to High school.
Examples of said joke (did it again):
*Laugh at my jokes, but I will point out when you've gone too far with your jokes.
*I will tell on you, teacher teacher! (Mod, Mod)
*My friend and I can bench press a bus loaded with 'before Subway diet' Jareds.
*This is my last post! (After my next three)
*This community is to be the way I want it or I will throw a hissy fit (and/or troll).
*After above procedure I will mention why the Pilot's Lounge was bad.
*Wanna sign my year book?


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XyZspineZyX
07-14-2003, 06:53 PM
Just for the record Gem (and you are a gem, aren't ya /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif ), I have NEVER contacted a mod by PM regarding any ones behavior towards me or anyone else on the forums, contrary to popular troll opinion. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

And the "To be fair" statement I made, was to disqualify the POLL initiator (me), removing any hint of bias...not your grand delusions of egocentrism on my part. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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07-14-2003, 06:59 PM
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XyZspineZyX
07-14-2003, 07:10 PM
Wow...guess what Taz.

I went back through my PMs to see if you were telling the truth about asking a mod for help..and I discovered something I had forgotten about you.

You weren't always a troll and you weren't always a general forum asshat.

I found PM's from you that were very supportive of me when I was a mod, actually very supportive of all the mods back then.

Then it started to come back to me....there was a time when you were one with the community. You were with everyone instead of against them.

You used to race for cherries in some of the famous "FORGOTTEN THREADS".

I liked you better back then.

You weren't so freakin high and mighty.

You weren't the Church Lady.

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XyZspineZyX
07-14-2003, 07:14 PM
TaZ_Attack wrote:
- Just for the record Gem (and you are a gem, aren't
- ya /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif ), I have NEVER
- contacted a mod by PM regarding any ones behavior
- towards me or anyone else on the forums, contrary to
- popular troll opinion. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif



Are you assuming that I'm talking about you?

/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Yeah I'm a Gem all right.
I'm a Muffin too, at least that's what my wife calls me.
(Short for stud-muffin)

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XyZspineZyX
07-14-2003, 07:16 PM
Well...I do not think I would have them over for dinner and most certainly they would not be allowed my young children.


Happy hunting and check six!

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XyZspineZyX
07-14-2003, 07:17 PM
Don't forget the gerbil.

Is it possible that someone broke into Tazs house whacked him and took over his foruming?





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XyZspineZyX
07-14-2003, 07:31 PM
USAFHelos wrote:
- Wow...guess what Taz.
-
- I went back through my PMs to see if you were
- telling the truth about asking a mod for help..and I
- discovered something I had forgotten about you.
-
- You weren't always a troll and you weren't always a
- general forum asshat.
-
- I found PM's from you that were very supportive of
- me when I was a mod, actually very supportive of all
- the mods back then.
-
- Then it started to come back to me....there was a
- time when you were one with the community. You were
- with everyone instead of against them.
-
- You used to race for cherries in some of the famous
- "FORGOTTEN THREADS".
-
- I liked you better back then.
-
- You weren't so freakin high and mighty.
-
- You weren't the Church Lady.



Absolf***ingloutly!
I actually remember saying, "Taz cracks me up".
I was beginning to think that I must have been hallucinating then.




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XyZspineZyX
07-14-2003, 07:52 PM
Buzz, you're right. Off-liners are more likely not to use the forums, I think, because they don't mix it up with real people, and end up wanting to chat with these real people on more than a RogerWilco, in-game level. Online players lead each other to the forums, maybe?


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XyZspineZyX
07-14-2003, 07:56 PM
USAFHelos wrote:
- Wow...guess what Taz.
-
- I went back through my PMs to see if you were
- telling the truth about asking a mod for help..and I
- discovered something I had forgotten about you.
-
- You weren't always a troll and you weren't always a
- general forum asshat.
-
- I found PM's from you that were very supportive of
- me when I was a mod, actually very supportive of all
- the mods back then.
-
- Then it started to come back to me....there was a
- time when you were one with the community. You were
- with everyone instead of against them.
-
- You used to race for cherries in some of the famous
- "FORGOTTEN THREADS".
-
- I liked you better back then.
-
- You weren't so freakin high and mighty.
-
- You weren't the Church Lady.



I haven't changed, I'm exactly the same person I was then...

I have MANY good friends in the community...I know that has to be a ***SHOCK /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif *** to you...lol! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

I am still "one with the community", just not the anti-community (you know the ilk, those who constantly engage in personal attacks and such /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif )

Funny thing is...I didn't know how many people would become part of the "anti-community" back then, until it became fashionable for the mob to be part of it...

I am all for supporting and participating among the honorable and courteous "community" (as your memory serves you correctly).

I am am dead-set against the dishonorable, discourteous and just plain nasty in general "anti-community". /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

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Message Edited on 07/14/0302:58PM by TaZ_Attack

XyZspineZyX
07-14-2003, 08:00 PM
Everyones cool but rbj and taz.


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XyZspineZyX
07-14-2003, 08:03 PM
LeadSpitter_ wrote:
- Everyones cool but rbj and taz.

Spoken like a true troll...lol!

How many times have you been banned Lead?

Gues what, RBJ & I haven't one ban between us! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

While I admit, RBJ has his moments...I'd take him ANYDAY over you...


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Message Edited on 07/14/0303:33PM by TaZ_Attack

XyZspineZyX
07-14-2003, 08:03 PM
TaZ_Attack wrote:
-
- I am am dead-set against the dishonorable,
- discourteous and just plain nasty in general
- "anti-community

But you were the one posting the most inflamatory threads in the PL as everybody rememcers....

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XyZspineZyX
07-14-2003, 08:07 PM
NN_Veverka wrote:
-
- TaZ_Attack wrote:
--
-- I am am dead-set against the dishonorable,
-- discourteous and just plain nasty in general
-- "anti-community
-
- But you were the one posting the most inflamatory
- threads in the PL as everybody rememcers....


Really?

OK, I'll admit the one about the US Vets in France was inflammatory, can you name one other?

And complaining about the degenerate state of that cesspool doesn't count. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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XyZspineZyX
07-14-2003, 08:14 PM
Taz, there were many others....and complaining about a cess pool while making it worse is quite the lamest thing....

And now, you're proclaiming that you only post in on topic thread and always are on topic....funny, in a way...


Yes, you used to be funny and a good member of the Community. Even your lists were a good laugh, sometimes.

Something changed. You won't admit it, but many people here saw that. I don't think they can all be wrong.

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XyZspineZyX
07-14-2003, 08:23 PM
NN_Veverka wrote:
- Taz, there were many others....and complaining about
- a cess pool while making it worse is quite the
- lamest thing....


If I made SO MANY inflammatory threads in the Ol' PL, why is it you can't name one of them? /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif



- Something changed. You won't admit it, but many
- people here saw that. I don't think they can all be
- wrong.


I have and always will discount the opinions of the "anti-community" (you know that ilk, like people who make terroristic threats against the Statue of Liberty /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif ).

Although this thread is quickly becoming just another flame-fest, it was originally "ON-TOPIC".

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Message Edited on 07/14/0303:23PM by TaZ_Attack

XyZspineZyX
07-14-2003, 08:24 PM
Seems to me like it's all going downhill, and this forum feels like it's dying a slow painful death.

I don't learn much or laugh much here anymore, no development updates or any real news of any kind for over a MONTH now. The silence is deafening. And lame.

It's just not very interesting anymore.


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XyZspineZyX
07-14-2003, 08:25 PM
TaZ_Attack wrote:
- Hey commie,
-
- Was that you (Col_commie) that left the server the
- other night after I PKed you twice in a row with the
- same plane?

Say, aren't you the same guy who keeps chickening out on your challenge to Nero Moura?

I think you are....



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XyZspineZyX
07-14-2003, 08:29 PM
TaZ_Attack wrote:
-
- If I made SO MANY inflammatory threads in the Ol'
- PL, why is it you can't name one of them?

Because the PL was deleted....
There were more than just one, that makes "many". Not "so many", "many".



-
- I have and always will discount the opinions of the
- "anti-community" (you know that ilk, like people who
- make terroristic threats against the Statue of
- Liberty)

Don't talk about what you are totally ignorant of, for a change.

Who made a threat to the Statue of Liberty? enlighten me.


"anti community" ROFL, you really start to sound like a extremist, too funny.

Beware guys, pogroms are not far away....


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Message Edited on 07/14/0303:31PM by NN_Veverka

XyZspineZyX
07-14-2003, 08:29 PM
Icarus999 wrote:
-
- TaZ_Attack wrote:
-- Hey commie,
--
-- Was that you (Col_commie) that left the server the
-- other night after I PKed you twice in a row with the
-- same plane?
-
- Say, aren't you the same guy who keeps chickening
- out on your challenge to Nero Moura?
-
- I think you are....


Actually, he declined my first challenge (something about not being up to it), but when he challenged me after spreading lies about me coming into his squad's server and team killing them, I declined his invitation.

I would never engage in a tournament or competition with a dishonorable pilot. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif



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Message Edited on 07/14/0303:36PM by TaZ_Attack

XyZspineZyX
07-14-2003, 08:30 PM
Help me out here. I've been around for some time but can't understand this sudden dislike of Taz.
Not takin side here but the way I see it today we got quite a few regulars ganging up on Taz and I'm not following why.

I'm about to lock this thread so plz hurry up with your replies. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
07-14-2003, 08:34 PM
IBTL /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

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XyZspineZyX
07-14-2003, 08:34 PM
Vengeanze wrote:
- Help me out here. I've been around for some time but
- can't understand this sudden dislike of Taz.
- Not takin side here but the way I see it today we
- got quite a few regulars ganging up on Taz and I'm
- not following why.
-
- I'm about to lock this thread so plz hurry up with
- your replies.


Basically be spammed the heck out of the old PL and regularly made an *** of himself.


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XyZspineZyX
07-14-2003, 08:37 PM
Tate_Bruce wrote:
- Basically be spammed the heck out of the old PL and
- regularly made an *** of himself.

But the PL closed like many months ago and most of you have been or are asshats from time to time...especially on friday and saturday evenings. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
07-14-2003, 08:37 PM
All those jingoistic threads TaZ started in the old PL were pretty inflamatory.

I even started a thread called "The Pilots' Lounge is under sustained bombardment" because of the enormous volume of pro-war threads that he started. Easily 15 - 20 per day, maybe more.

I had no strong opinion about him before that. We parted company thereafter.

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XyZspineZyX
07-14-2003, 08:37 PM
Makes false accusation.

Waiting for his answer

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XyZspineZyX
07-14-2003, 08:37 PM
out of curiosity then, why are you no longer jg27Taz? I mean if you have a lot of good friends, a squad would be part of that.

I'm a crappy pilot, but one hell of a shot.

XyZspineZyX
07-14-2003, 08:38 PM
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XyZspineZyX
07-14-2003, 08:39 PM
Sharpe26 wrote:
- out of curiosity then, why are you no longer
- jg27Taz? I mean if you have a lot of good friends, a
- squad would be part of that.

I joined a better squad...one that is a more appropriate fit for me.

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Message Edited on 07/14/0304:03PM by TaZ_Attack

XyZspineZyX
07-14-2003, 08:42 PM
Actually, he declined my first challenge (something
- about not being up to it), but when he challenged me
- after spreading lies about me coming into his
- squad's server and team killing them, I declined his
- invitation.
-


Uh-huh. In short, you're a ...

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Nice thing to add to your long list of accomplishments, Taz - you ran from a challenge you issued.



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XyZspineZyX
07-14-2003, 08:42 PM
commie1 wrote:
- All those jingoistic threads TaZ started in the old
- PL were pretty inflamatory.
-
- I even started a thread called "The Pilots' Lounge
- is under sustained bombardment" because of the
- enormous volume of pro-war threads that he started.
- Easily 15 - 20 per day, maybe more.
-
- I had no strong opinion about him before that. We
- parted company thereafter.

Ok, now I remember. Yeah, he was such an asshat. All em patriotic posts was getting on my nerves back then.
We had some PM sent back and forth. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

But that was atleast 3-4 months ago.

What have he done after PL (RIP)??

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XyZspineZyX
07-14-2003, 08:44 PM
Sharpe26 wrote:
- out of curiosity then, why are you no longer
- jg27Taz?


I'm given to understand it's because other JG27 people found the diaper pics amusing. Taz, having no detectable sense of humor or humility, got very offended and left.




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XyZspineZyX
07-14-2003, 08:45 PM
GREAT COMMUNITY!!!!!
the Raven shield community used to be good but now nearly every server i go on i get called things like ****** and other such words for no appearant reason. this has happend alot of times! BUT here i love it, everyone respects each other. FB RULEZ!!

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XyZspineZyX
07-14-2003, 08:46 PM
Icarus999 wrote:
- Actually, he declined my first challenge (something
-- about not being up to it), but when he challenged me
-- after spreading lies about me coming into his
-- squad's server and team killing them, I declined his
-- invitation.
--
-
-
- Uh-huh. In short, you're a ...
-
- <img
- src=http://www.elegantfarmer.com/images/chicken.jpg>
-
-
-
- Nice thing to add to your long list of
- accomplishments, Taz - you ran from a challenge you
- issued.

Actually no...he declined my initial challenge, when he challenged me in the same thread where he defamed me, I washed my hands of any association with him.

After his multiple time-outs and now permanent ban from the UBI forums, I see I'm not the only one done with Nero. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

- I'm given to understand it's because other JG27
- people found the diaper pics amusing. Taz, having
- no detectable sense of humor or humility, got very
- offended and left.

You understanding is quite faulted then...I had thought about leaving JG27 again, and had indicated that for reasons similar to the first time I left, long before those pics were created. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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Message Edited on 07/14/0304:06PM by TaZ_Attack

XyZspineZyX
07-14-2003, 08:46 PM
Vengeanze wrote:
- What have he done after PL (RIP)??



Being extremely smug and patronising.

His new 1337 departure is a good example.

Accusing me of cowardice because I chose not to post my picture here is another.

But the Oompah Loompah and Big Baby pics have shot that particular fox for him.

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XyZspineZyX
07-14-2003, 08:47 PM
It wasn't the subject matter of the posts. Heck, I'm as pro-war as anyone here.

It was the frequency and general trollish form of all the posts that we got sick of.


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XyZspineZyX
07-14-2003, 08:49 PM
Actually, yes.

You ran from the challenge, Taz - dragging your big ol' arms with you.

Face it, Tazzie - given Nero's version and yours, I will believe his every time. He hasn't given ample evidence of being deceitful, unlike you.



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XyZspineZyX
07-14-2003, 08:52 PM
Ok, noone have been able to produce a good reason why I should join in on bashing Taz.

Now plz do not tribute a hole thread to Taz in the future.

Thank you!

Locking.

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Rubber Ducky, you're so fine
And I'm lucky that you're mine
Rubber ducky, I'm awfully fond of you.</font></td>
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Message Edited on 07/14/0310:00PM by Vengeanze

XyZspineZyX
07-14-2003, 08:56 PM
I think it was the one evening "I'm leaving forever" only to come back and make a sudden shift into what can only be descibed as "troll mode".

Where in he only seemed to post in reference to topics that were about starting a new pilots lounge, and trolled the regulars consistently and claiming some sort of victory with people leaving. When the truth be told the only one that ever left was him for about 12 hours un-officially.

As for the now bashing of JG27 I quote "I found a better squad" I can only say I've seen this pattern, leave a squad bad mouth them, then re-join them and bash the one you were in before bashing them. And for the record JG27 is a nice bunch of guys and even though I left them I can still say that respectably, isn't Taz the one always preaching repsect and chivalry? I guess your definition has changed since a day ago for your little snub against JG27 is nothing but a cheap shot, which brings me to the last reason Taz is being "ganged" up on, he's a complete hypocrit.

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Message Edited on 07/14/0302:57PM by R_Mutt

XyZspineZyX
07-14-2003, 08:57 PM
IATL

oh yeah baby

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