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JohanBurg
03-31-2004, 03:57 PM
so lets leave all the "its wrong" comments on the side and concentrate on the game here. to me it is of particular importance to have accurasy in a flight sim, so because of this i've been trying to find a way to add swasticas to all the german models in a variety of ways, but all have failed. I tried adding them to the void models that each plane has in its own DIR, using photoshop, only to find out that they do not get included on the generated models during game play. now i know they were excluded on purpose, but for those of us who want to have them, there must be a way to add them on. just what is this way is my question. is there a config file that deals with markings alone(judging from the "markings ON/OFF" option, there must be), and why cant the void models be modified to carry them. maybe because the voids are blank, the added marking gets covered when the model gets skined for the particular mission. I dont know, but i would really, really like to find out.
so in short(sorry for the long text) can markings be included with the standard markings patterns, and still be applied to the void models, after they get skinned?

NOT A NAZI HERE, JUST A FAN OF THE GAME

JohanBurg
03-31-2004, 03:57 PM
so lets leave all the "its wrong" comments on the side and concentrate on the game here. to me it is of particular importance to have accurasy in a flight sim, so because of this i've been trying to find a way to add swasticas to all the german models in a variety of ways, but all have failed. I tried adding them to the void models that each plane has in its own DIR, using photoshop, only to find out that they do not get included on the generated models during game play. now i know they were excluded on purpose, but for those of us who want to have them, there must be a way to add them on. just what is this way is my question. is there a config file that deals with markings alone(judging from the "markings ON/OFF" option, there must be), and why cant the void models be modified to carry them. maybe because the voids are blank, the added marking gets covered when the model gets skined for the particular mission. I dont know, but i would really, really like to find out.
so in short(sorry for the long text) can markings be included with the standard markings patterns, and still be applied to the void models, after they get skinned?

NOT A NAZI HERE, JUST A FAN OF THE GAME

Teufel_Eldritch
03-31-2004, 04:11 PM
The easiest way I have found to add historically correct markings is to dl IL2Stab (http://www.users.on.net/mjtm/IL-2/).

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Fehler
03-31-2004, 04:38 PM
You can also use IL2 MAT.

Plus you get the added weathered markings as well.

IL2MAT.. dont take off without it!

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LC34
03-31-2004, 05:00 PM
Does that Stab work with AEP? I noticed it works with patch 1.22. Or does it still need to be upgraded to work with AEP?

Takegami_X
03-31-2004, 05:30 PM
Stab works fine with AEP.

georgeo76
03-31-2004, 09:09 PM
historic markings were excluded from the game for legal as well as political reasons

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Mitlov47
04-01-2004, 12:52 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by georgeo76:
historic markings were excluded from the game for legal as well as political reasons

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BBB_Hyperion
04-01-2004, 12:58 AM
There is no restriction in using own Skins with own Markings if needed at all. The Format must be indexed bmb 256 colors 512 x 512 or 1024 x 1024.
Everything not in right Format is not shown extension must be bmp.
Then turn markings off cause they are really bad quality compared to the skins itself if done well.


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JohanBurg
04-01-2004, 10:06 AM
thanks alot all
i tried stab, and it works fine, however the weathering effects offered with il2mat is deffinetly something i want to try. so this brings in the next question, can stab and il2mat function properly together, cause stab, has some very neat optios along the side of the markings.
its true what hyperion is saying about the quality of orig. markings, but you would have to modify virtually every skin to get the better quality.where exactly must these entries be put hyperion?

lil_labbit
04-01-2004, 10:20 AM
You can have swastika on if you want using il2Stab, you can also paint em on the skins yourself.

With il2Stab you will ONLY see swastika's on YOUR system (other players wont see them).

If you paint them on yourself, use a custom skin - however - for others to see them the host has to have d/l skins ON.

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Ob.Emann
04-01-2004, 07:40 PM
Where is it possible to download IL2mat?

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lil_labbit
04-01-2004, 07:50 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Ob.Emann:
Where is it possible to download IL2mat?

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http://www.acesartwork.co.uk/

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lil_labbit
04-01-2004, 07:52 PM
I DONT LIKE THIS THREAD
AND WILL NEVER EVER AGAIN REPLY TO IT
so start a new one
better - delete the whole thing
4 posts and I get drawn into it - yeah I must be drunk

you and only you will see it (using any method) you cant "push it down the line" to the other system and I thank my great God Oleg for that YAY Oleg again... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/11.gif

If people do not want to see it they set their skin download off in setup.exe in main game folder. You have to skin every plane then - will be kicked because too much upload to server - BYE ! (that was last edit too)
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[This message was edited by lil_labbit on Thu April 01 2004 at 07:01 PM.]

[This message was edited by lil_labbit on Thu April 01 2004 at 07:12 PM.]

Ob.Emann
04-01-2004, 08:07 PM
Thanx for the link by the way. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

So, the bottom line is that correct/custom markings are NOT VISIBLE ONLINE.

Correct?

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