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AztekWrath
08-14-2004, 01:53 AM
Well I've tried just about any aproach for a belly landing with the 109 without exploding, the normal belly landings didn't work, and it turns out that actually landing up-side down increases your chances of surviving. I've tried it 7 times already and it didn't explode although it sometimes catches fire but plenty of time for escape. Wierd, isn't it?

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AztekWrath
08-14-2004, 01:53 AM
Well I've tried just about any aproach for a belly landing with the 109 without exploding, the normal belly landings didn't work, and it turns out that actually landing up-side down increases your chances of surviving. I've tried it 7 times already and it didn't explode although it sometimes catches fire but plenty of time for escape. Wierd, isn't it?

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Tully__
08-14-2004, 02:40 AM
When doing a proper landing the correct technique is to get as close to stall as possible at the point of touch down. After a few quick tests I can say don't do this in the game for belly landings. Instead, with flaps up fly onto the ground at as small an angle of descent as you can at about 200km/h.

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Yellonet
08-14-2004, 02:56 AM
The planes shouldn't explode as easily as they do now when crashing into the ground. It would be better if they broke up in pieces a little more often instead.

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p1ngu666
08-14-2004, 08:18 AM
i have whined in ORR. anyways itll haveto change for PF cos 50% loss rate on landing will cause questions tobe asked

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Dawg-of-death
08-14-2004, 09:56 AM
A landing is a cotroled stall. Fly like on a short runway landing. I use flaps. They say not too but stall speed is lowered. Fly it in too were as it stalls 1 foot off the ground.


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Fliegeroffizier
08-14-2004, 04:58 PM
This belly landing was with full flaps, as you can clearly see in the film.....Kept the nose up as best I could, of course...then I had to goose it up(throttle-wise)just Immediately before touchdown, which was at about 155 Kph. I THINK that maybe a similar approach MIGHT help out in PF for carrier landings (GearDOWN, of course).

Now if you are wanting a belly landing without screwing up the propeller, that's another story... I'll have to go back and try that out a few more times...

As we all know, as long as you walk away from it, gear up or not, it's a success.

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[This message was edited by Fliegeroffizier on Sat August 14 2004 at 04:08 PM.]

Fliegeroffizier
08-14-2004, 05:13 PM
Speaking of belly landings and the accuracy of FB versus reality, check this out:
http://pauke.ee.ethz.ch:8732/oberstguncam/Frameset/../Movies/P47bellyGlenn.WMV

jeroenrepk
08-14-2004, 05:21 PM
I also fly the 109 (K4) and I must say: I've made some belly landings with 300km/h or more. Just take a good look at your decent rate. You want to hit the ground as flat and as slow as possible. If you do that, most of the time you'll get it right.

The problem is, allmost everytime you need to peform a belly landing, your totaly shot up and can't maneuvre that good anymore. Thats when you tutch the ground to hard and explode.

Resident_Jock
08-14-2004, 08:58 PM
I explode on belly landing very rarely, but it's usually because my plane is badly shot up, loses lift in a wing that's fulla holes, and stalls. Most of the time I come in at about 150-120 kmh, with as full flaps as I can manage (without slowing too much or affecting maneuverability). Every belly landing is different... different terrain, different degrees of damage, different situations, etc. You just gotta practice until you come out unharmed most of the time, even if it leaves your plane as little more than a cockpit and engine.

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