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KIMURA
02-21-2004, 06:51 PM
Hi is someone among us who can translate that Czech article, espeacilally the thing with the 680km/h??

Here the link to a real life and airworthy Hayate.

http://www.fronta.cz/index.php?sekce=1300&clanek=98

KIMURA
02-21-2004, 06:51 PM
Hi is someone among us who can translate that Czech article, espeacilally the thing with the 680km/h??

Here the link to a real life and airworthy Hayate.

http://www.fronta.cz/index.php?sekce=1300&clanek=98

ElAurens
02-21-2004, 08:48 PM
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I sure hope someone can translate this...

It really is a pretty aeroplane......

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SkyChimp
02-21-2004, 09:00 PM
I think the basis for any claim that this plane did 425mph is based on that US test.

Here is anothe Czech site with a big ? behind 670 km/h and references to testing at Wright Field.

http://www.fronta.cz/index.php?sekce=1300&clanek=99

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KIMURA
02-22-2004, 02:51 AM
SkyChimp

I'm sure this was originally written in English, and if I'm not completely wrong I did see it in English somewhere. Did U also have seen the post at "our" old home in the "real life a/c Forum" about the Ki-84 speed meassuring system by the Japanese??

Lazy312
02-22-2004, 03:22 AM
Don't panic! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

"General stab of army requested a plane with a sturdy construction, pilot and tanks protection, it should achieve 680km/h.."

"I found another source that claims it were Iba and Ic versions but it should have achieved 670km/h at 6100m! I don't think it is probable considering an icrease of weight because of stronger armament and the same engine."

Just a very quick translation so..

wooden planes, iron men

T_O_A_D
02-22-2004, 11:10 PM
ok first page is here its not perfect but it was free http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gifFirst link (http://www.tranexp.com:2000/Translate/index.shtml?from=che&to=eng&type=url&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fronta.cz%2Findex.php%3Fsekce %3D1300%26clanek%3D98)

second link (http://www.tranexp.com:2000/Translate/index.shtml?from=che&to=eng&type=url&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fronta.cz%2Findex.php%3Fsekce %3D1300%26clanek%3D99)

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[This message was edited by T_O_A_D on Sun February 22 2004 at 10:21 PM.]

drapis
02-23-2004, 05:50 AM
the very last part of the second article deals with Ki-84 testing by TAIU - I translated it for you.

"At the very beginning of this article I've mentioned an air-worthy exponate of Hayate in Kyoto museum. History of this particular machine is quite interesting. It was captured in January 1945 by Americans near Manila in Phillippines - almost intact Ki-84-Ia belonged to 2nd Chutai 11th Hiko Sentai, marked with red lighting bolt with white lining on the tail, and tactical number 46. Along with another machine it was immediately handed over to TAIU, where it was (with removed marking at that time) tested. The tests revealed - as it was already known - qualities of the Hayate. Test pilots agreed that it is a great climber, with easy handling characteristics and that in altitude of 6100 meters (20,000 ft) it was faster then P-47D (by 35 kmph) and P-51D (by 5 kmph). In the course of the year, No. 46 machine was transported to the Wright Field AFB, USA for additional testing. It stayed there until it was given at disposal for air show displays and as a museum piece. In 1973 it was again repainted with original 11th Sentai marking and returned to Japan, where it stayed until today."

concerning the ???question mark in speed stated for Ki-84-II KAI, the article says there is a bit confusion:


"Another version was Ki-84-II KAI. There is a slight contradiction. According to some resources, it was a Ki-84-I with wooden rear fuselage and outer edges of the wing fitted with Ha-45-23 engine, or the latest and most powerful Ha-45-25 (rated 1484kW/2018 hp at take off-power). According to other sources, it's only a original designation of versions with improved armament - versions Ib and Ic. Only to make the matter even more interesting, I've come across another source that claims that II-KAI should reach speeds as fast as 670 kmph in 6100 meters. However, that (when we take increased weight but almost the same engine into account) seems rather unprobable. Version Ia could reach 'only' 630 kmph in 6100 m."

so - make up you own opinion.. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[This message was edited by drapis on Mon February 23 2004 at 05:28 AM.]

TgD Thunderbolt56
02-23-2004, 06:54 AM
Thanks drapis. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif



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