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TheGozr
07-11-2004, 01:37 AM
I use both for NOW.

http://www.french.themotorhead.com/forgotten-battles/images/serverpic.jpg

what difference do you see?
SAme time same second this pic was taken.

I advise all pilots looking for a variety of servers to use both.. for now http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

HL is free and ALL eyes not but you can use the trial version for ever, so it's not a biggy.

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TheGozr
07-11-2004, 01:37 AM
I use both for NOW.

http://www.french.themotorhead.com/forgotten-battles/images/serverpic.jpg

what difference do you see?
SAme time same second this pic was taken.

I advise all pilots looking for a variety of servers to use both.. for now http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

HL is free and ALL eyes not but you can use the trial version for ever, so it's not a biggy.

-GOZR
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mcTOPGUNs
07-11-2004, 07:14 AM
yeah i used to use All seeing eye loved it - but it has a 21day trial and if oyu want to get rid of that trial you gotta pay yearly.

Personally I prefer Hl

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LeadSpitter_
07-11-2004, 07:48 AM
I been using ASE alot lately myself.

Its nice it lists all ip HL gamespy and Ubi games.

I get so fustrated joining warclouds on HL it can say 16-30 go to join and its full for minutes ase shows the real ammount of users in it.

I wish jiri would make HL something more like ASE but with the chat. Also ase lists so many more servers and is a quarter the system use as HL. With HL you cant even play the game with HL open or it runs choppy, just from hl being open and playing offline with HL open.

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TheGozr
07-11-2004, 10:56 AM
yep LeadSpitter_

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PF_Coastie
07-11-2004, 11:11 AM
The biggest diffs are that HL does not show people who joined through ASE.

ASE has no chat.

I have never seen that HL causes in game choppyness for me. Not saying it doesnt happen!

If HL hosts would just block ASE users, It would save a lot of hassle. I can't remember how to do this, But you can if you are host. Only HL players will be able to join. I think its a command in HL's .ini file you add so ASE does not see your server. I just cant remember.

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Owlsphone
07-11-2004, 11:18 AM
So that is the explanation for why I can't join a server when it shows 19/30 in HL?

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lil_labbit
07-11-2004, 11:24 AM
http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/88.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/88.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/88.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/88.gif
I see that the servers on ASE are not updated (so you can't say HOW many players are in-game the second you took that picture LOL

Anyway - ASE does give better info (when refreshed) because it sees people joining by-ip to the server which Hyper does not see - ASE also sees the second WarClouds server and others not visible on Hyper :P - and ASE is free to try and it seems it does not stop working after the trial period is over (registered myself - not that expensive for what you get)... So ASE is a good thing http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif - get it here http://www.udpsoft.com/eye2/index.html

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VFS-22_SPaRX
07-11-2004, 12:34 PM
As a server admin, i would like personally like to just drop HL all together. HL was not designed with a dedicated server Admin in mind. It was sole built to suit the needs of players hosting coops or dogfight servers that do not run 24/7. It is not configurable at all. By not being able to set parameters for your dedicated server, it makes it harder to get a smooth running server.

Personally, i do not join my servers through HL anymore. I either Direct IP in or use All Seeying eye. For those that have limited ram in their systems, i would suggest you do to the same.

As labbit stated, there are two War Cloud 44+ servers up as we speak. One is on HL and All Seeying Eye, the other is just seen on All Seeying eye. When the new patch comes out, the second server is going to be the Old TOH server. But again, you will only be able to see it on All Seeing eye. So hopefully people will join it that way.

All Seeying Eye can be used for free. You do not have to register it to use it. There are options taht you cannot use when using the Unreged version. Mainly these have to do with Buddy tracking. It will still list every server that is up and running.

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lil_labbit
07-11-2004, 12:43 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by VFS-22_SPaRX:
When the new patch comes out, the second server is going to be the Old TOH server.

S~

SPaRX

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That's good news http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif thanx SPaRX

And hopefully (well we can only hope and nag 'em) UBI will have sorted the 2-IP / router / wrong room issues by then (ANY news about THAT Admin/Mods?? - are you even working on those issues???) so who knows...

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TheGozr
07-11-2004, 07:57 PM
Exactly

lil_labbit there is a Little button on the top looking like a watch and you can as will press it and obtain the new refresh ping and all infos.

I think pilots will get both and start to join that way for the better and yes joining direct ip is good. Until a new one specialized will arrive

Some time Prowar as a lots of pilots and just showing 1 into HL.. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

So by using ASE you can see many servers where HL can't.

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T_O_A_D
07-12-2004, 09:04 AM
I use both same reason as sparx.

Now Coastie mentioned a (ini) thing for Hyper, if that is so and it forces people to go through Hyper. It makes me wonder does hyper check for cheats and correct files in game, like it used to for Janes WW2fighters. Reason I ask is for coops, and the like. If you want to make sure you, or try to makes sure you don't have any low lifes join game. It would be cool to force them through hyper.

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TheGozr
07-12-2004, 12:47 PM
is it not punkbuster made for this?

In my case Hyper Lobby come after now. t il get the servers fix ala ASE

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Gibbage1
07-12-2004, 01:56 PM
This is the differance. HL only counts the number of people entering through HL. If someone connects through direct IP or other ways (ASE) it wont count that. ASE polls the servers for who is on, settings, and all sorts of things. In HL, I often connect to GG with 24/30 and its full. Fustrating because I know 6 people must have connected in other ways and HL did not poll them. Im thinking of using ASE, but then I dont get the interesting chat of HL. 3 hours of "The P-51 was the fastest prop aircraft EVER!" "No, Do-335 was" "No, P-47M was" and so on and so on. When I chimed in "No, Russian bear IS" they were like WTF? Lol. Noobs. I wont miss those educated conversations. I can still get that here!

T_O_A_D
07-12-2004, 10:33 PM
Neat thing about ASE Giggage is if your machine is big enough you can run Hyper in the back ground and you still get your PM and and the pool continues to flow.

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