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Bradley---
04-11-2017, 06:33 PM
this is what i said:Origineel geplaatst door winterblitz:
every human without brain damage is racist against nazis


this was someones response:mindless sheep programmed by jew news network are racist against nazis. the only message the nazis had was self preservation


what does everyone here think about this:confused::confused::confused:

secrecy274
04-11-2017, 06:35 PM
...that some people should look up what "racist" means.

Prophit618
04-11-2017, 06:37 PM
Nazis aren't a race....

Bradley---
04-11-2017, 06:38 PM
it was in the heat of the moment okay what else should i have said?

teksuo1
04-11-2017, 06:38 PM
so are they now inside the moon or somewhere under Antarctica?

Dmochu093
04-11-2017, 06:39 PM
This is more about not propagating the genocide than the racist

secrecy274
04-11-2017, 06:42 PM
it was in the heat of the moment okay what else should i have said?

Well, nothing at all.
More than half the people with any kind of "offensive" emblem does it just to get on peoples nerves. As in they get a kick out of when someone verbally attacks them.

Prophit618
04-11-2017, 06:42 PM
it was in the heat of the moment okay what else should i have said?

Sorry, I'm a pedantic arse.

I actually support your views, and while not 100% accurate (or else that guy wouldn't have had a response, he clearly shares no common sense bias against nazis), it's close enough for me.

Anyone in their right mind hates on nazis, and thanks for being confident enough to say something.

RatedChaotic
04-11-2017, 06:45 PM
so are they now inside the moon or somewhere under Antarctica?

South America most likely....I liked that show Hunting Hitler...

Bradley---
04-11-2017, 06:47 PM
i was in steam forum war mode i couldnt come up with such a fancy response

Captain-Courage
04-11-2017, 06:50 PM
it was in the heat of the moment okay what else should i have said?

No.
It was an horrible ideology.
But not a race.

You could just say that everyone with an half functionning brain don't agree with such terrible ideas (which are the one promoting racism since the postulate of said ideology is entirely based uypon that), because this idelogy is full of **** and fallacies, so if one adheres to it, he certainly has **** in the brain also.

Annexiation of territories, Gestapo, rafles, pogroms, camps, industrialisation of death or massacres like the one perpetrated at Oradour-sur-Glane weren't just self defense or self preservation measures.
The Nuremberg trial wasn't just for fun.

Gray360UK
04-11-2017, 07:01 PM
I think it would be nice if we could play a game without having to think about Nazis full stop. Unless it's a game about Nazis, of course.

secrecy274
04-11-2017, 07:04 PM
I think it would be nice if we could play a game without having to think about Nazis full stop. Unless it's a game about Nazis, of course.

There's Hakenkreuzs in the game, of course it's a game about Nazis. It's not like it's just an emblem.

Gray360UK
04-11-2017, 07:07 PM
There's Hakenkreuzs in the game

No, there isn't.

secrecy274
04-11-2017, 07:09 PM
No, there isn't.

Yes, there is. Who cares though?

Reign
04-11-2017, 08:31 PM
You trying to engage in a meaningful dialogue with someone with one of those emblems baffles me more than the person with said emblem.

Marcrele
04-11-2017, 08:36 PM
My cure: report and chop their heads off

Halvtand
04-11-2017, 09:02 PM
My usual modus operandi:

1. Screenshot the offending emblem/player name.
2. Flatly ask the player if they are going to change it today.
3. If I'm met by anything other than a positive response: Inform the player that they are violating Ubi's code of conduct and that this can lead to a ban.
4. If met with positive response: Thank the pleyer for understanding.
5. Fill in a report and send to UBI. If met by positive response I also point out that the thing should've been changed by the time they get the ticket, so they should only need to check it out. Attach screenshot. Send.

That's it. Outside of a "thank you for understanding" or a "You are violating Ubisoft's code of conduct and may be banned from the game". I don't discuss it further, because there really is no excuse for some of the names and emblems I've seen. It is not my place to "talk someone straight" about it, nor do i wish to do it. I also don't hang people out of the forums because that will only result in a hate-mob which is in no way even close to a solution to the problem. The only course of action that may fix the problem is to report immediately report it. If everyone did that, that would net the guy 7 reports for every 4v4 played, that means a lot of reports after a day of gaming.

DrExtrem
04-11-2017, 09:02 PM
You trying to engage in a meaningful dialogue with someone with one of those emblems baffles me more than the person with said emblem.

Sorry .. but trying to discuss with a bonehead why he us wrong, is like bashing your head into a concrete wall.

They don't want to understand.

May 1st draws near in germany and I will march again on the streets against people, who think it was a good idea to elect a guy from austria to fix my country.

DrExtrem
04-11-2017, 09:04 PM
My cure: report and chop their heads off

i like it.

Its easy to remember.

If this was a sci-fi game, I would propose using the airlock.

Pope138
04-11-2017, 10:26 PM
I hadn't seen swastikas until this past weekend. I reported immediately and thought that was all I was going to do, but once the match started I noticed everyone left except me and the two players with offensive emblems. So I left too. If this happening a lot, then trying to get a stable match in FH must be brutal for these guys.

DUI Murda
04-11-2017, 11:09 PM
I don't get why people take offense over swastika emblem's, or any emblem for that matter. If you don't like it, ignore it simple.

Also having a swastika in this game makes sense, for a Viking anyway as that was a symbol that represented Thor's Hammer. Fair enough it isn't black/red and white and is rounded but still.

Marcrele
04-11-2017, 11:21 PM
I don't get why people take offense over swastika emblem's, or any emblem for that matter. If you don't like it, ignore it simple.

Also having a swastika in this game makes sense, for a Viking anyway as that was a symbol that represented Thor's Hammer. Fair enough it isn't black/red and white and is rounded but still.

Fair enough its breathing, can type stupid things into devices, it must be human... but still.

Tyler-Durdin
04-11-2017, 11:36 PM
What exactly happens if one is offended????

DUI Murda
04-12-2017, 12:01 AM
Fair enough its breathing, can type stupid things into devices, it must be human... but still.
Just not a stupid human that takes offense over an image that goes way to Proto-Indo-Europeans, which is as far back as 4500BC.

AgentCelt
04-12-2017, 12:03 AM
The Svastika symbol is used in so many different religions and cultures. If someone has a Svastika emblem, either they're a national socialist, or it has a special meaning based on they're culture or religion. Either way, it's not an offensive emblem.

We_Wuz_Kongz
04-12-2017, 12:36 AM
It's just getting tacky. Every game there will be this subset of players that just want to be edgy and get a rise out of people. I'm at a point where seeing a swastika just gives me fond memories of being in middle school. It's sad that sjws and edgelords have diluted words like bigotry, racist, and ____aphob so much that it's impossible to see these people when they actually show themselves.

Hormly
04-12-2017, 12:42 AM
this is what i said:Origineel geplaatst door winterblitz:
every human without brain damage is racist against nazis


this was someones response:mindless sheep programmed by jew news network are racist against nazis. the only message the nazis had was self preservation


what does everyone here think about this:confused::confused::confused:

If you're the type that gets 'offended' and responds by snitching to the closest authority to come protect you then I think very little of you indeed.

The last time I heard the words 'you're reported' in life was when I was on the middle school playground.

Grow a pair, your own mental weakness does not give you power to censor anyone elses elf expression

Marcrele
04-12-2017, 12:47 AM
Either way, it's not an offensive emblem.
Tell that the descendants of over 6 million human beeings who died in agony in concentration camps you muppet.

AgentCelt
04-12-2017, 12:50 AM
Tell that the descendants of over 6 million human beeings who died in agony in concentration camps you muppet.

Don't be ****ing stupid. Does that mean the star of David is offensive now because of the amount of arabs that Israel has murdered? The symbol has been around thousands of years. It's not offensive.

Marcrele
04-12-2017, 12:54 AM
Don't be ****ing stupid. Does that mean the star of David is offensive now because of the amount of arabs that Israel has murdered? The symbol has been around thousands of years. It's not offensive.

history lessons will fail a tool box like you. This discussion ends here.

AgentCelt
04-12-2017, 12:57 AM
history lessons will fail a tool box like you. This discussion ends here.

What are you even talking about? Grow up.

Tyler-Durdin
04-12-2017, 01:00 AM
history lessons will fail a tool box like you. This discussion ends here.
Your discussion should have ended at report them and chop their heads off

Marcrele
04-12-2017, 01:03 AM
Your discussion should have ended at report them and chop their heads off

you can't chop heads in forums you know

Tyler-Durdin
04-12-2017, 01:07 AM
you went off track replying to others to justify something which is now forgotten your 1st original post was the only one that has made sense.

Marcrele
04-12-2017, 01:12 AM
just like 6 million people cant be offended if they are dead

I wrote 'descendants'. Learn to read. The level of stupidity gets worser by the day here.

Tyler-Durdin
04-12-2017, 01:21 AM
I still fail to see what your trying to prove every post after your initial "report them and chop their heads off" post you have attacked others on a wide variety of things .
I may be stupid yes but my level of stupidity only lowered to your level an didn't get WORSER.

Marcrele
04-12-2017, 02:13 AM
I still fail to see what your trying to prove every post after your initial "report them and chop their heads off" post you have attacked others on a wide variety of things .
I may be stupid yes but my level of stupidity only lowered to your level an didn't get WORSER.
What these guys fail to see is that the swastika as a symbol in it's recent historical context still is indeed offensive in western culture. In their statements these two individuals belittle the harm that was done by the NS Regime. Just because someone is 13-25 yo doesn't mean that there aren't still generations left affected by those events. Anyone insisting the opposite is nothing but a moron.

UbiJurassic
04-12-2017, 02:59 AM
Due to the sensitive nature of this thread, we will be closing this thread to prevent any unrest among forum users.