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Curly_109
03-15-2004, 02:49 PM
Why not include this plane in the sim when we already got some far less important A/C? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/59.gif

then we have whole finnish winter&continuation war from '39 http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/784.gif

cheerz

Curly_109
03-15-2004, 02:49 PM
Why not include this plane in the sim when we already got some far less important A/C? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/59.gif

then we have whole finnish winter&continuation war from '39 http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/784.gif

cheerz

Sharpe26
03-15-2004, 03:01 PM
just do a search on this aircraft here and over on netwings first.

then, if that doesn't satisfy your needs, go and find a modeling program like 3dmax and make it yourself. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

p1ngu666
03-15-2004, 05:18 PM
some team or person is making this plane
i sent them some info http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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chris455
03-15-2004, 06:01 PM
I subscribe to "World War II" magazine, in this months issue there is an interesting article on the "Winter War", including the use by the Finns of the Fokker.
Nice Aircraft; many Finns regarded it as the best AC in the Finnish Air force.
S!

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UncleVanya2001
03-15-2004, 06:08 PM
"Nice Aircraft; many Finns regarded it as the best AC in the Finnish Air force."

http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/88.gif

Ha ha hahahahaha

Wonder what that says about the Finnish Air Force?

ha haha ha http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/35.gif

mortoma
03-15-2004, 06:58 PM
I agree that the Fokker is important and I'd like to see it. But far more important were the Moranes, which shot down more planes than most of the others combined if memory serves me. But any time I ask about anybody doing cockpits for them, I get about as much interest generated in the forums as I would if I did a post on paint drying!!! I like the crap planes and the Moranes are crap!! The only AI controlled plane that has EVER shot me down in an offline career in the P-47 is a Morane 406!! No 109 or 190 has ever managed to do more than damage me a little, but that Morane shot off my wing, the little ******!! I respect that little crap plane for that.

mortoma
03-15-2004, 07:06 PM
I just did some research and found that the Moranes had more kills than the Gladiator but not as many as the Fokker, but it still got 135 kills in both the Winter war and the Continuation war. Not bad at all!!
Only the Me109, the Fokker, the Hawk 75A and the Brewster had more kills....Moranes got far, far more kills than the Hurricane Mk1, with only 5 and 1/2. The Morane got almost twice as many kills as the G-50, but we got a pit for it.

necrobaron
03-15-2004, 10:55 PM
The Fokker is indeed sorely needed.

"Not all who wander are lost."

thegoose001
03-15-2004, 11:38 PM
yes i agree........the project really needs to be done.....

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FiAW_Vaijy
03-16-2004, 02:31 AM
UncleVanya wrote:

"Nice Aircraft; many Finns regarded it as the best AC in the Finnish Air force."



Ha ha hahahahaha

Wonder what that says about the Finnish Air Force?

ha haha ha


It says that FAF kill ratio against Soviet Union was about 20:1 in FAF:s favour.

buahaahaa , buaahaaahhaaa

V_Flatspin
03-16-2004, 03:34 AM
Really great page on the Fokker D.XXI (http://www.sci.fi/~fta/fr-fin-1.htm) including 3D wire frame. Nice looking mono for its time!

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Curly_109
03-16-2004, 04:47 AM
'just do a search on this aircraft here and over on netwings first.

then, if that doesn't satisfy your needs, go and find a modeling program like 3dmax and make it yourself. '
---no need to be offended by my post---
---have no needed knowledge to do it http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/crazy.gif---

mortoma, how the h... i forgot the moranes http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/35.gif?!?? That plane is amazing (especially firepower) so that would be another great A/C to be added flyable http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/59.gif

some moranes are included even in croatian air force (not to mention G.50bis)... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

FiAW_Vaijy
03-22-2004, 03:18 AM
Testing signature

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FiAW_Vaijy
03-22-2004, 03:26 AM
testing avatar

Serval_EAF310
03-22-2004, 03:48 AM
I can help whoever wants to model it with detailed information on this aircraft.
I've gathered a lot of information on this aircraft for a previous modeller who had to stop the project.

Before one starts, I'd like to warn that most information on the Internet is incorrect. It's often a mix of data from the Dutch, Danish and (4) Finnish versions. Versions with 20mm cannons and retractable gear never came beyond experimental stage.

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Markku38
03-22-2004, 06:41 AM
http://www.elknet.pl/acestory/sarvan/sarvan.htm

This link you find nice story about Jorma Sarvanto when he got six kills in five minutes http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

And yes, he got 'em Fokker D.XXI http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Mispunt
03-22-2004, 06:43 AM
Serval, what's the current status of the D.XXI?

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KGr.HH-Sunburst
03-22-2004, 07:14 AM
yay a Dutch plane im all for it http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/11.gif

Bumpid

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Grendel-B
03-22-2004, 07:26 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by UncleVanya2001:
Wonder what that says about the Finnish Air Force?
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

It says you have some aerial warfare history to learn.

Fokker D.XXI was the best fighter during Winter War, but of course not later.

Serval_EAF310
03-22-2004, 07:55 AM
The status is that I/we have a lot of info waiting for a good modeller who is interested in doing it. Noone is working on it.
And I think that only good modellers can finish the job now, since the end of time to get new aircraft into FB is coming fast...

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