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Bansai Potato
03-01-2004, 08:30 AM
There has been a problem with the 3d model of the P40 since the very first FB release, and with Olegs obvious desire to get all modelling correct i would like to know why it has not been corrected yet?

The fault is the angle of dihedral on the wings. It is set far too high, just take a head-on picture of a P40 and look at it your-self, i would post screen shots of the ingame P40 compared with photos of a real life P40 but i do not have any room to get the pictures hosted, is this fault going to be left or can someone tweek the angles on the 3d model for the next patch.

http://homepage.hispeed.ch/Ede_EAF92/EAF/24890632.92EastIndiaSquadronpersonnel.jpg

Bansai Potato
03-01-2004, 08:30 AM
There has been a problem with the 3d model of the P40 since the very first FB release, and with Olegs obvious desire to get all modelling correct i would like to know why it has not been corrected yet?

The fault is the angle of dihedral on the wings. It is set far too high, just take a head-on picture of a P40 and look at it your-self, i would post screen shots of the ingame P40 compared with photos of a real life P40 but i do not have any room to get the pictures hosted, is this fault going to be left or can someone tweek the angles on the 3d model for the next patch.

http://homepage.hispeed.ch/Ede_EAF92/EAF/24890632.92EastIndiaSquadronpersonnel.jpg

robban75
03-01-2004, 09:29 AM
I agree fully, the exaggerated dihedral on the P-40 is really hurting this otherwise great looking 3D model!

http://members.chello.se/unni/D-9.JPG

When it comes to aircombat, I'd rather be lucky than good any day!

Wolf_Fangs1381
03-01-2004, 12:42 PM
Hello Guys,

Yes the dihedral is wrong. Too high like you said. But an excellent model none the less. I guess we'll have to wait until the add-on is released to see if it got corrected (2 more days!!). I personally doubt it though. I am hoping Oleg and crew fixed the landing gear doors on the P-51D's. That bothers me the most because I am a major fan of the Mustang. I also hope radiator has been fixed in the add-on aswell. We just gotta wait and see. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif =S=

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Wolkenbeisser
03-01-2004, 02:39 PM
Bump

I agree. A patch (after Aces) correcting 3d-Models (P-40, P-51 etc.) is more needed than new planes.

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musickna
03-01-2004, 02:48 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>

The fault is the angle of dihedral on the wings. It is set far too high, just take a head-on picture of a P40 and look at it your-self, i would post screen shots of the ingame P40 compared with photos of a real life P40 but i do not have any room to get the pictures hosted, is this fault going to be left or can someone tweek the angles on the 3d model for the next patch.


<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes, it does not look right. It seems like the wings angle upwards directly out of the fuselage, but if you look at a real P-40, there is short horizontal wing section up to and including the wheel housing - then the wing angles upwards. It's even possible that the angle is right - but not having that short horizontal section makes it look all wrong.

Love to see it fixed myself - all other details of that model are great.

biggs222
03-01-2004, 02:55 PM
i have felt this way for a long time too...it would be nice to have the over bending of the wings fixed.

robban75
03-01-2004, 03:06 PM
http://www.il2sturmovik.com/forgotten_battles/devupdate/28feb/28feb_5.jpg

Compare the link with this picture.

http://www.highgallery.com/Curtiss-P-40E.jpg

http://members.chello.se/unni/D-9.JPG

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musickna
03-01-2004, 03:25 PM
It will be interesting to compare the P-36 (Hawk-75) in the add-on with the current P-40 - the P-40 is not much more than a P-36 with an in-line engine, and the wings are similar.

Bansai Potato
03-02-2004, 04:12 AM
bump

http://homepage.hispeed.ch/Ede_EAF92/EAF/24890632.92EastIndiaSquadronpersonnel.jpg

Wolkenbeisser
03-02-2004, 08:26 AM
P-40 = angle of wings is wrong!
P-51 = "gear-closing door" (at the wheelstruts) are wrong
Yak-3 = wings (you can see the wheels through it on top in flight) are too thin

Please, please, please, Oleg! Correct these (little?) things.
Thanks

Fliegergr├╝sse

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robban75
03-02-2004, 09:49 AM
A little friendly bump. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

http://members.chello.se/unni/D-9.JPG

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Oleg_Maddox
03-02-2004, 09:56 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Classic_EAF92:
There has been a problem with the 3d model of the P40 since the very first FB release, and with Olegs obvious desire to get all modelling correct i would like to know why it has not been corrected yet?

The fault is the angle of dihedral on the wings. It is set far too high, just take a head-on picture of a P40 and look at it your-self, i would post screen shots of the ingame P40 compared with photos of a real life P40 but i do not have any room to get the pictures hosted, is this fault going to be left or can someone tweek the angles on the 3d model for the next patch.

http://homepage.hispeed.ch/Ede_EAF92/EAF/24890632.92EastIndiaSquadronpersonnel.jpg
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

We posted in the past that we will not rework this third party model with dihedral angle that is 3 degrees in overal is greater than should. We boght this model already with the bug. As well as with bug of cowls for the gear.

That to rework just angle we need to rework all most all the external model, sorry we have not for this time. It was need to be done from the beginning but we received the model too late.

musickna
03-02-2004, 10:21 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Oleg_Maddox:

We posted in the past that we will not rework this third party model with dihedral angle that is 3 degrees in overal is greater than should. We boght this model already with the bug. As well as with bug of cowls for the gear.

That to rework just angle we need to rework all most all the external model, sorry we have not for this time. It was need to be done from the beginning but we received the model too late.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Oh well - that's a shame, but it doesn't really affect enjoyability of the game. Thank you for your reply! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Bansai Potato
03-02-2004, 11:16 AM
Never mind, its still a mean looking machine. Thanks for your reply.

S!

Keep up the good work.

http://homepage.hispeed.ch/Ede_EAF92/EAF/24890632.92EastIndiaSquadronpersonnel.jpg

03-02-2004, 11:24 AM
I'm no P-40 expert, but yeah I have noticed the large dihedral angle. Never knew it was "wrong" though.....

It looks very distinctive, and it makes P-40s easier to identify. If it looks like a brown pigeon at low LOD, it's probably a P-40. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif