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Salicaz
04-02-2017, 08:54 PM
You're a disgrace. It's like a nursery full of demanding children, crying and tantrums. Demanding the game changes to your every whim.

Don't like it? **** off then. Simples.

The sheer levels of salt in matches, rage quits because you're environment killed and whining at balance instead of just ****ing getting on with it is insane.

The game is fine, the community is broken.

Hormly
04-02-2017, 10:27 PM
it amazes me that so many people still havnt figured out that crying after getting beat does NOT make you look better or in any way diminish your loss.

When you are anything other than humble after a defeat, it makes you look worse, much, much worse. you are literally humiliating yourself in front of an audience when you get your @ss kicked and respond with *you may have won, but f- you you're a f-ggot.

and do you think those words are hurting the feelings of the guy who just beat you? He's laughing right now! You're literally making his win sweeter, you are making him happy with your misery!

When you lose, you say GG, like an adult

CandleInTheDark
04-02-2017, 10:41 PM
it amazes me that so many people still havnt figured out that crying after getting beat does NOT make you look better or in any way diminish your loss.

When you are anything other than humble after a defeat, it makes you look worse, much, much worse. you are literally humiliating yourself in front of an audience when you get your @ss kicked and respond with *you may have won, but f- you you're a f-ggot.

and do you think those words are hurting the feelings of the guy who just beat you? He's laughing right now! You're literally making his win sweeter, you are making him happy with your misery!

When you lose, you say GG, like an adult

Yeah win or lose it's gg and what can you learn from the game.

supermaldo93
04-02-2017, 11:03 PM
I'd hate to be that guy, but the players who think the game is fine the way it is is the minority. The majority of the player base has quit the game entirely. So statistically speaking, most people don't think the game is fine.

The_B0G_
04-02-2017, 11:37 PM
The game is far from fine, and the developers admit it, if you're satisfied with a sub par game then that is good, but it doesn't mean everyone else should be. Without feedback and complaining on the forums then things would never get balanced or fixed as fast as they do. The developers that read the forums know the difference between rage posts with nothing behind them and constructive posts about class balancing and they have to statistics to back up what they read on here. I think it is you that doesn't understand the point of forums. Most of what is complained about on here they are fixing with patches and balancing consistently since release. All my friends that play the game all agree the core of the game is a great, but that it needs class balancing, gear stat balancing, fixes to matchmaking and connectivity, just because a game is good and playable doesn't mean it can't be even better.

BananaBlighter
04-03-2017, 12:05 AM
I am certainly against the whiny attitude that is very prevalent on these forums (though being on PS4 and without in-game chat I can't really make a judgement on how it is there)

However if you're saying that people should just leave if they don't like something, then I have to disagree. There are always going to be things which could be better, I for one have several suggestions on how to make the game more enjoyable (from my point of view, of course). There are people who complain because they like hating on Ubisoft, but sometimes people complain because they want the game to be better. It is out of love, not hate. I am often most critical of the things I have the most respect for.

Recently I've seen plenty of people telling others to F off if they think that revenge gear is OP, or that certain characters are unbalanced, or even that this game has connection issues. Then the next day during the livestream the devs admit themselves that fixing these issues is their top priority. You can't really say these complaints weren't legitimate then. If someone pays money for a product and it isn't up to scratch, then you can't really blame them for wanting improvements.

But yeah, the general attitude of many people when demanding for these changes is disgusting. Some complaints are simply people having difficulty coming to terms with the fact that they're not too good at this game, and so yeah, ignore them. But that doesn't mean we should generalise and shut down anyone who has a problem. This game is not perfect.

UbiJurassic
04-03-2017, 12:09 AM
You're a disgrace. It's like a nursery full of demanding children, crying and tantrums. Demanding the game changes to your every whim.

Don't like it? **** off then. Simples.

The sheer levels of salt in matches, rage quits because you're environment killed and whining at balance instead of just ****ing getting on with it is insane.

The game is fine, the community is broken.

Although we appreciate the sentiment behind the post, please refrain from openly insulting the community. We appreciate all comments that players offer, regardless of the sentiment behind them.

Gray360UK
04-03-2017, 12:22 AM
Says the community is a disgrace, gets warned by a mod for insulting the community in his first post. Delightful. You'll fit right in ... :rolleyes:

CandleInTheDark
04-03-2017, 12:28 AM
Says the community is a disgrace, gets warned by a mod for insulting the community in his first post. Delightful. You'll fit right in ... :rolleyes:

Oh so this was my mistake when you said clearly I don't belong here :p

Gray360UK
04-03-2017, 12:30 AM
Oh so this was my mistake when you said clearly I don't belong here :p

Haha ;)

CandleInTheDark
04-03-2017, 12:31 AM
Haha ;)

That was actually someone else >.< lol but yeah the comment I got was hmm well reasoned, not enough rage and nerf, clearly you don't belong here.

Gray360UK
04-03-2017, 12:52 AM
That was actually someone else >.< lol but yeah the comment I got was hmm well reasoned, not enough rage and nerf, clearly you don't belong here.

It's certainly something I have said in the past, easily could have been me ;) On the rare occasions someone sensible comes along it is one of my favourite comments, along with 'You sir, are far too sensible for these forums' and 'how dare you come in here with your logic and common sense'

Haven't had the opportunity to use those much on this forum though .... :p

Kiiyor
04-03-2017, 12:58 AM
I'd hate to be that guy, but the players who think the game is fine the way it is is the minority. The majority of the player base has quit the game entirely. So statistically speaking, most people don't think the game is fine.

While the number drop probably has a lot to do with the rampaging technical and imbalance issues you've rightly cited, there is always a natural decrease in player numbers after pretty much every game is released, for lots of different reasons.

Most of my friends still enjoy the game in spite of it's list of problems, and while they don't all log on every day, we still get together to play, and have a blast, especially if game chat is turned off. While we don't all agree on any one specific issue as being the root of all evil, we all agree on one thing; the community is horrible. It really is. While it's not as toxic as maybe LoL was at it's bile soaked peak, it's pretty darn close, and it's easily the least inviting of any i've seen.

I daresay the average player would wander over to these forums, take one look at the hordes of toxic flamebeasts huddling around dumpster fires and gnawing on leg bones, and rightly decide they want nothing to do with it. Heck, I had one friend make a simple post about enjoying the basic mechanics of the game on Reddit after he'd been playing for a few days, and after a few hours he'd been downvoted into oblivion before he deleted his post in bewilderment. It ended up turning out OK though, as he ventured into someone else's thread and commented "Yeah, the PK sucks and the devs should die" and more than made up for the lost karma.

While it probably hasn't had as much of an impact on numbers as the technical issues have, I'm fairly certain that the open hostility displayed towards everyone who posts anything with a question mark at the end has a lot to do with the player drop too.

The "Argument is good for the game" crowd are right about one thing; argument is good for a game. The trouble is, there's very little argument here, as those willing to commit the energy required to form a coherent argument are slowly being driven away. People here don't seem to want rational discussion. They want gang members, and if you're not with them, you're against them. The middle ground is a desolate wasteland.

CandleInTheDark
04-03-2017, 01:03 AM
The middle ground is a desolate wasteland.

Hey -waves- I'm on the middle ground, pull up a tent and don't mind the wolf howls.

CandleInTheDark
04-03-2017, 01:05 AM
It's certainly something I have said in the past, easily could have been me ;) On the rare occasions someone sensible comes along it is one of my favourite comments, along with 'You sir, are far too sensible for these forums' and 'how dare you come in here with your logic and common sense'

Haven't had the opportunity to use those much on this forum though .... :p

It did seem like your humour from what I have seen since. It was prophit618 to give proper credit lol.

Kiiyor
04-03-2017, 01:09 AM
Hey -waves- I'm on the middle ground, pull up a tent and don't mind the wolf howls.

OH HI!

Hey, is there anything to eat other than human flesh?

CandleInTheDark
04-03-2017, 01:12 AM
OH HI!

Hey, is there anything to eat other than human flesh?

I have salt, And wolves hence the howls.

ThelwVizia
04-03-2017, 02:09 AM
cant be bothered to read any posts in th is thread, the tittle says it all and i totally agree.

although the game need a lot of improvement and balancing the community is as low as it can gets. its so ironic that this game its called for honor when almost no1 ingame has any of it.
just spam spam spam abuse ur ******ed characters and win with ur op char skills just to satisfy ur sick mind.

this game is a waste of money and time.

UbiJurassic
04-03-2017, 02:50 AM
It did seem like your humour from what I have seen since. It was prophit618 to give proper credit lol.


It's certainly something I have said in the past, easily could have been me ;) On the rare occasions someone sensible comes along it is one of my favourite comments, along with 'You sir, are far too sensible for these forums' and 'how dare you come in here with your logic and common sense'

Haven't had the opportunity to use those much on this forum though .... :p


OH HI!

Hey, is there anything to eat other than human flesh?

Although the side conversations are amusing, let's try and keep our posts in this thread aligned with the OP's topic. ;)

HighGround_S3G
04-03-2017, 02:56 AM
+1

Lots of whiney loser babies in this game.

If I lose a match, I am demeaned and ridiculed.
If I win a match, I am called a spammer, an exploiter, playing a broken class, demeaned and ridiculed.

So I turned chat off. Now I have no idea what people say about me, win or lose.

CandleInTheDark
04-03-2017, 03:05 AM
Although the side conversations are amusing, let's try and keep our posts in this thread aligned with the OP's topic. ;)

Was it the human flesh that did it? :p

(and duly noted)

Gray360UK
04-03-2017, 03:07 AM
I just got reported by a salty Raider in a Doninion game because I killed him lots, lol :(

In fact he said he reported my whole team ;)

Apparently I am 'nothing'

I feel so empty inside now.

CandleInTheDark
04-03-2017, 03:09 AM
I just got reported by a salty Raider in a Doninion game because I killed him lots, lol :(

In fact he said he reported my whole team ;)

Apparently I am 'nothing'

I feel so empty inside now.

Well you do have raider blood on your knives.

CandleInTheDark
04-03-2017, 03:22 AM
And more on topic, I had a nobushi rage quit on me because...well I don't know, we didn't even finish the first round, the bleed stab score was 2-0 to me though.

Gray360UK
04-03-2017, 03:23 AM
Well you do have raider blood on your knives.

Viking blood in general, his Berserker friend sent me hate mail too ;)

It was a very ragey match (this is on topic) *waves to UbiPerson* :p

CandleInTheDark
04-03-2017, 03:26 AM
Viking blood in general, his Berserker friend sent me hate mail too ;)

It was a very ragey match (this is on topic) *waves to UbiPerson* :p

Does viking blood go with salt and wolves? Not so sure about the human flesh.

One amusing one last night I had a peacekeeper mirror match, he got off light attacks and the occasional heavy out of a guardbreak (no idea what he was doing there), I got off bleeds and parries. We kill each other in the last round, go to a tiebreak which I win and suddenly I get an xbox message, from a spammy peacekeeper, saying spam.

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot.

Butonfly
04-03-2017, 03:57 AM
You're a disgrace. It's like a nursery full of demanding children, crying and tantrums. Demanding the game changes to your every whim.

Don't like it? **** off then. Simples.

The sheer levels of salt in matches, rage quits because you're environment killed and whining at balance instead of just ****ing getting on with it is insane.

The game is fine, the community is broken.

The worst part is when they come on the forums, swearing, getting angry, raging at "the community" etc.

XD /owned.

(seriously though, why you think this has anything to do with the game is incredible. It's inherent in humans. The game is just one avenue of expression. Like you, on the forum XD)

Delectable_Sin
04-03-2017, 06:19 AM
Man, kids now days are just perfectly happy with getting the short end of the stick. No wonder you guys all want socialism -- you just accept it when someone screws you over.

Captain-Courage
04-03-2017, 09:50 AM
Although the side conversations are amusing, let's try and keep our posts in this thread aligned with the OP's topic. ;)

The OP's topic ?
Ah yeah, you mean that ...

http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/689/319/4f2.gif

CandleInTheDark
04-03-2017, 01:50 PM
Apparently people are so scared of me they quit 1v1's, first time the guy didn't move and was kicked out, second left before he even saw who I was playing.

Not sure why that is, it sure as heck isn't my win/loss score lol

Prophit618
04-03-2017, 03:39 PM
Oooh. Someone mentioned my name! Though Gray usually beats me to acknowledging people for being sensible and well thought :)

While i do think the game needs work, I also see it steadily getting improved, and honestly, I enjoy the game in the state it's in now, unless i get teamed up against multiple PKs absuing Zone Attack.

The level of salt in the community is so crazy though that I get dehyrdrated just playing a match. It's to the point now where if I'm playing with a group, I turn chat off entirely, and really only keep it on when I'm soloing as I like to try to make friends during those times. It's just not worth keeping the chat up with the amount of bile and vitriol being thrown about.

I'm ok with that, and actually expect it after playing Hearthstone, LoL, and Heroes of the Storm (probably the best of these communities). While FH's community is slightly worse than those, it's kind of what I expect in a PvP oriented game like this.

The real problem with the salty community for me is the rage quitters. They destabilise the game, they make it unfun for the teammates that get left behind, and in general, they're just problematic. I've lost multiple rewards because someone rage-quit right before losing to preserve their precious record and it crashed the match. With no punishment for them, why should they care? As far as they're concerned they just won cause now we both got the same rewards.

I understand they can't really punish quitters until stability is fully addressed, but right now they're a big problem.