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Stevepine
06-06-2004, 02:54 AM
well I cant resist saying this, I have to..

some people wanted the game to be a US Sub sim it seems.
Well im British, and I have to say that given that, in Europe, we have to watch so many American made games and films - ( often anti British ones as well for some reason ) which really totally distort history.
( U571, Titanic, the Patriot, Breave Heart etc...etc...)
I, for one, am very glad that in this game I will not be forced to fight for the stars and stripes even though I will have to take aim at vessels flying my own flag.! and may I say I hope operation Drum Beater is included too! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Stevepine
06-06-2004, 02:54 AM
well I cant resist saying this, I have to..

some people wanted the game to be a US Sub sim it seems.
Well im British, and I have to say that given that, in Europe, we have to watch so many American made games and films - ( often anti British ones as well for some reason ) which really totally distort history.
( U571, Titanic, the Patriot, Breave Heart etc...etc...)
I, for one, am very glad that in this game I will not be forced to fight for the stars and stripes even though I will have to take aim at vessels flying my own flag.! and may I say I hope operation Drum Beater is included too! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

mog_tr
06-06-2004, 04:07 AM
Mel Gibson undoubtedly has some deep seated pathological hatred of the English. Most of the movies he is involved in go out of their way, at the expense of historical accuracy, to have an anti English theme.

Hitman_PAces
06-06-2004, 04:10 AM
Ironical, considering that as Australian he has the same Queen and ancestors...http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/crazy.gif

mog_tr
06-06-2004, 05:32 AM
He isn't Australian, he just went to film school here. One of his earliest films was Gallipoli, in which the Australian director chose to portray the commander who ordered the suicidal third wave as British, when it was undoubtedly an Australian officer in real life. Granted this wasn't Mels decision, but it kind of set the tone for a lot of his later works in terms of Pom-bashing.

Egan2.0
06-06-2004, 05:47 AM
I wouldn't mind playing a US sub at all and U-boats are fine but, as a brit, I wouldn't mind playing as the Royal Navy on occasion seeing as how they sorta had a hand in both theatres too.....

And, you know what? they had subs as well! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Mel Gibson? Well, i'm Scottish and i guess I'm supposed to be thankful for Braveheart. I might well have been if he didn't just alter history to suit himself.

HeibgesU999
06-07-2004, 02:10 PM
May someday Mel Gibson will have the guts to make a movie about Australia's treatment of the aboriginees, and the conditions they continue to live under today.

Thomsen9U
06-07-2004, 02:24 PM
@Heibges
and all

One of my friends is american. He is living in Germany and sharing the same interest like we all do.

Of course we had some friendly discussions about germans and americans and every time when i tried to provocate him with the things americans had done to slaves and the indians he replied:
"Well, of course they did it in America, but they came all from Europe!"

Everytime he said that, i had no argument against and so we drank a little bit more.... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/88.gif

Now, from which country came the white australians?

Jesus, I knew it, at the end it is always the germans (and sometimes the tommies) who have to blamed! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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Stefan
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jagtigermk2
06-07-2004, 02:47 PM
lol and where did the anglo saxons come from, http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif is the Germanic people the root of all evil. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/icon_twisted.gif

TASKFORCE1x1
06-09-2004, 12:43 AM
Something good sometimes comes out from the bad. If it wasnt for germans we wouldnt have known some of the medical mysteries we do today. They really pressed the threshold of human life back then when they experimented with the jews. One instance I know of and I have some experience in is that Germans broke bones and tried different things to see how people heal. When I broke my leg caz a skiing accident (fell on ice patch) the surgen told me a history of the procedure involved in mending bone back together. I had 2 options: To use a cast which would be months before I could walk again or to have an operation where they insert a titanium rod where my bone marrow is. They hammered it in through my marrow and they linked my broken bone together. I healed perfectly. Xrays show no cracks and no over growth. Back in history the germans used this knowledge to get their ME109 pilots back in the air from a rough crash. (2 week turn around average) http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/10.gif

Redwine
06-09-2004, 03:38 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jagtigermk2:
lol and where did the anglo saxons come from, http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif is the Germanic people the root of all evil. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/icon_twisted.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

If I am not remember bad from the school.......

Saxons was from Germania, and go to the British Islands as Wessexs, Sussexs, and Essexs or how you write it in english, buth Anglos was from the Galias, was celtic people........I am wrong ?

In my opinion the main reasons to have U-Boote in the sim are (I soupose).......

at first, SH2 was an sucess of sales in Germany.........they will not loss it...... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

second, germans brings the submarine ship to its adult age.........that is so important....... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Finally, I have SH1 and I forget who is the target, and I enjoy the sim SH1 the same as SH2........ ( or CAOD up to it stops tu run in my computer http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-sad.gif )

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HeibgesU999
06-09-2004, 05:58 PM
Plus, its just a lot more challenging to play as a german sub as opposed to a us sub. The japanese just waited too long to concentrate on asw.