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SkyChimp
01-24-2004, 06:06 AM
...will FB run on an Apple system? If so, does anyone play on one? Thoughts?

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SkyChimp
01-24-2004, 06:06 AM
...will FB run on an Apple system? If so, does anyone play on one? Thoughts?

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Rajvosa
01-24-2004, 06:30 AM
Nope.

I prefer oranges.



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fiesetrix
01-24-2004, 07:39 AM
APPLES are for nerds - nerds don't buy and play silly games like IL2FB ... Am I right or am I right? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/crazy.gif

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ElAurens
01-24-2004, 07:42 AM
I believe there is almost no gaming support for Apples. It just is not the market that they pander to.

Now, if you are tlaking high end graphics production, then tha Apple is in it's element.

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Wing_Over
01-24-2004, 07:48 AM
I (obviously a nerd..) own one so i should know; Apples don`t fly FB, but if they would, my oh my.........
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WooHooToYou
01-24-2004, 07:58 AM
They are expensive and the performance claims they make are totally bogus.

A PC of the same price is much faster.

I love OSX. It has a gorgeous user interface. I think itâ's the best GUI anyone has come up with.

They have concentrated on making it easy to use, which is just what your average home user wants.

But the number of games/applications that will run on this OS is very small compared to Windows.

To sum up.

Donâ't bother with a Mac.

WooHooToYou
01-24-2004, 08:02 AM
Also itâ's only a matter of time before they switch to PC processors.

So they will then just be PCâ's in a very nice case.

VW-IceFire
01-24-2004, 08:19 AM
A Macintosh (from personal experience) is like a more expensive, fancier, more crash prone, version of the PC. If you want to use Photoshop and Acrobat the Mac will work for you, if you want to do anything else then the PC is by far the best choice with the most rugged options and any good and well built PC will function better than any Mac I'd care to throw its way.

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mllaneza
01-24-2004, 09:35 AM
Hah. Playing Medal of Honor on a dual G5 with a 23" LCD is like looking out a window. And when Call of Duty comes out in a few weeks, you're gonna have to deal with a bunch of Low Ping Bastards from art school - or one particular ad agency I could mention...

But not much for flight sims. That's a shame, for certain kinds of number crunching a G5 kicks *** - ask anyone in biosciences, look up the specs on IBM's site or check out what the #3 supercomputer is a cluster of. And who wouldn't want a flight sim running atop a modern Unix-based OS instead of Windows ? I should send Oleg some of IBM's P4 vs G5 comparisons :-)

Instability on OS X these days is either a) hardware (probably RAM) or VERY poorly written software (usually Microsoft amusingly enough). I have one lemon in the office that'll freeze up in Internet Explorer but the rest just won't crash at all.

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Cpt-Madcowz
01-24-2004, 10:09 AM
I have an Apple Powerbook 170 that couldn't run a cold (released 1991) :-)

Come to think of it, my BBC micro wouldn't either.

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WooHooToYou
01-24-2004, 10:13 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by mllaneza:
Hah. Playing Medal of Honor on a dual G5 with a 23" LCD is like looking out a window. And when Call of Duty comes out in a few weeks, you're gonna have to deal with a bunch of Low Ping Bastards from art school - or one particular ad agency I could mention...

But not much for flight sims. That's a shame, for certain kinds of number crunching a G5 kicks *** - ask anyone in biosciences, look up the specs on IBM's site or check out what the #3 supercomputer is a cluster of. And who wouldn't want a flight sim running atop a modern Unix-based OS instead of Windows ? I should send Oleg some of IBM's P4 vs G5 comparisons :-)

Instability on OS X these days is either a) hardware (probably RAM) or VERY poorly written software (usually Microsoft amusingly enough). I have one lemon in the office that'll freeze up in Internet Explorer but the rest just won't crash at all.

Veteran - Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force. 1993-1951.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>



And how much is a Dual 2Ghz?

$2,995 USD.

That price doesnâ't include a monitor and you only get a Radeon 9600 Pro included.

Comparing a G5 with a P4?

64bit against 32bit?

Shouldnâ't that be G5 vs. Athlon 64 FX?

Also are Medal of Honor and Call of Duty actually coded to run on a dual processor computer?

VMF-214_HaVoK
01-24-2004, 10:16 AM
Just what I always wanted a 4,000 dollar desk lamp http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

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mllaneza
01-24-2004, 10:35 AM
Let's not get into a pricing comparision. I can say that at retail we'd be paying about $6000 per workstation and billing around $300 an hour for the people using them. For a pure PDF/CMYK working environment with color synchronization between screen, proof, prepress and Sports Illustrated, and hundreds of fonts in daily use OS X whips Windows XP cold. We'll pay a premium for the hardware it runs on because it actually makes us money. I support 50 Macs, 5 Windows/Novell boxes, phones, system administration (not all of it) purchasing, repairs and training. I'm busy, but I only work 40 hours a week to cover all that. If we'd bought cheaper PCs we'd need another headcount in IT - at least based on all my experience we would, and not a few studies.

As far as multiprocessor support, the Quake 3 engine has been multiprocessor aware on the Mac for some time now. Apple posted some numbers using a default config for Quake 3, and it compares nicely to (admittedly) a single-processor Athlon.

http://www.apple.com/powermac/graphics.html

The graphs on the performance page for video work and genome sequencing may also be interesting. Note that a G5 rigged for Final Cut Pro does the same job as an Avid station costing an order of magnitude more.

That said, I'm typing this on a $1200 Athlon 2000 I had built for IL-2.But don't forget, BMW and Porsche both have less than Apple's 3% market share, premium goods cost more.

Dangit, we're WAY off topic.

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BaldieJr
01-24-2004, 10:41 AM
Macs are great! They are just large enough that they can't be placed into the anus, but rounded at the edges, just in case someone manages to do it anyway.

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xenios
01-24-2004, 11:28 AM
I'm not sure how well they work, but there are PC emulation programs for the Mac. I've never owned a Mac (I did have an Amiga emulating a Mac 12 years ago), but I use them at work. Sadly, discussions about PCs and Macs always degenerate into name-calling or arcane technical specs between brand partisans--similar to the wars between Ati and Nvidia loyalists. For most of us, however, we care less about the hardware and more about the operating system, software or drivers.

Most computer users just want something that works reliably and doesn't cost a lot, and don't care about brands. I can say that I've never had the sort of problems with any Mac I've used that I have on a weekly basis with any of the 7 Win machines I've owned. There's a reason why Microsoft is so reviled by its own users and Apple is beloved by Mac users. I almost bought a Mac laptop last month, but went for a PC laptop instead. Even with an education discount, Macs are almost twice as expensive as a comparable PC system. And of course, there just isn't as much software or games available.

When I'm using a Mac, I really miss the right button and scroll wheel.

One thing's for certain, if not for Mac OS there would be no progress with Windows at all.

Spinnetti
01-24-2004, 12:18 PM
I wish!!

Apple has always made the coolest stuff, but no, it won't run a vast number of games. A few though...

If you appreciate fine things, you like Apple.

Its kind of like this. Your Ford Escort will get you there and back, and so will an Audi or BMW, but which would you rather drive?

For me its both! A Mac for everything but games. My PC is nothing more than an expensive playstation. I have a 3.2P4, 1gig dual channel mem, 120gig 8 meg buffer 7200 rpm drive, ATI 9800pro card etc. etc. PC, but basically its just for this stupid game! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

LeadSpitter_
01-24-2004, 12:24 PM
apples are for those who find windows difficult

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TheGozr
01-24-2004, 12:28 PM
Mac os X..&gt; windows difficult?

lol it's Linux baby
With a mac you can have real fun.
Great machines but no support.
I wish Mac os X would run on my PC ( i know they did one )

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pourshot
01-24-2004, 12:43 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BaldieJr:
Macs are great! They are just large enough that they can't be placed into the anus, but rounded at the edges, just in case someone manages to do it anyway.

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Korolov
01-24-2004, 12:55 PM
It'd be nice if the Apple people and the PC people would make it so their parts were interchangable as well as software.

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mllaneza
01-24-2004, 12:57 PM
Oh c'mon, other than the motherboard and CPU there's little in a Mac that won't work in a PC. PCI cards, RAM, drives...

I've been trolled.

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HellToupee
01-24-2004, 01:12 PM
The best thing about apples is the operating system, the core darwin is based on freebsd and its open source, so apples should be far far mroe secure than a windows machine and more stable, plus most linux apps are easly ported to apples meaning alot of them make their way over to the apples. How hard could it be to port il2 to mac and linux it uses open gl so no direct x problems.

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WUAF_Badsight
01-24-2004, 01:28 PM
if Appel had taken off instead of microsoft .....

we would have faster more stable systems right now

with eaiser to use systems

& smoother , sweeter looking games

Microsoft is most widely used

Apple are better

its a fact , but even some who know what im talking about say otherwise

they are better systems that havent had the development support that windows systems have

Cpt-Madcowz
01-24-2004, 02:22 PM
I have just finished reading 'Infinite Loop'
by Michael Malone

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0385486847/103-9110515-0386225?v=glance

and I can highly recommend it to everyone, whether a PC user, Mac fanatic or a nix hacker. Superb book. Read the 608 pages in little over a week and could hardly put it down.

One of the best puter books I have read.


/Mad

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