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GertFroebe
09-13-2004, 09:53 AM
Hello!

Will it be possible to lay the Uboat on the Ground to await end of storms, await time of attack or to do some repairings?

Some UBoat-Commanders did that. Erich Topp for exsample laid the boat on the ground to await the end of a storm near Helgoland.

In SH2 the boat took always damage. Shouln't happen on sandy ground.

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GertFroebe
09-13-2004, 09:53 AM
Hello!

Will it be possible to lay the Uboat on the Ground to await end of storms, await time of attack or to do some repairings?

Some UBoat-Commanders did that. Erich Topp for exsample laid the boat on the ground to await the end of a storm near Helgoland.

In SH2 the boat took always damage. Shouln't happen on sandy ground.

"Gute Leute muss man eben haben... gute Leute!"

Kejotikk
09-13-2004, 09:59 AM
In AOD this is a valid tactic, not like in SH2 as you said where no matter how gently you put the boat down on the bottom you'll suffer damage.

I'm pretty sure this dev team with their interest in realism and detail will make this a valid tactic in SH3.

Gerd_Schopfel
09-13-2004, 10:08 AM
I tried that in SHII: To put the belly of the sub against the ocean floor in shallow waters, but after a while, the sub starts to rotate due to the ocean currents and then I have to Blow the Ballast tanks. I lay the sub on the ocean floor in shallow water to escape detection from the sonar of destroyers http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/sonar.gif. I've had way too many tragic accounts by trying to sneak away from Destroyers in shallow waters...The only effective way is to stay still.
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Kejotikk
09-13-2004, 10:13 AM
Well that's odd, because in SH2 there are no currents at all, if you stop your engines on the surface or while submerged you won't move an inch even if you use full time compression. It's probably just strange physics making the sub rotate while in contact with the sea floor.

Gerd_Schopfel
09-13-2004, 10:21 AM
I guess so. But it happens quite often. I like it though, because it adds realism!
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lonewulf44
09-13-2004, 10:33 AM
Very interesting, I like this very much! Realism, and just another option for the player. Hope this makes it in!

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IXD2
09-13-2004, 10:41 AM
Well it added some sort of realism to the non realistic game, but neverthless it was an exxageration. In theory, if you lay sub you should expect problems due to the underwater streaming, but not in all cases. Apart from that a sub loding its buoyancy should lay and not move that much. Suffer extra damage when hitting the ground, yes, it`s realistic, but a damage penalty for just lying still is weird.
Hope it will be possible to lay on the bottom.

GertFroebe
09-13-2004, 11:05 AM
In reallity it was possible to lay the boat onto the ground and use the adhesion of the mud to fix the position. Means, that the boot sucked the keel into the mud like a suction cup.
But sometimes it was hard to get out again. Then the crew tried to free the boat by running the engines back and forth until the boat has been released from the mud.

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hauitsme
09-13-2004, 01:57 PM
Somewhere it was said that 'laying' on the bottom WILL be possibe, as it was a valid tactic.
As to the 'movement' of the ship while sitting still(there are NO currents modelled), it's just the BAD programming. Happens quite a bit. Watch the stupid ships run aground, then come back a little bit later. You'll see the ship on a mountain top! That was one of my 'cheats' to take advantage of. Put a piece of land between yourself and the escort and get him to run aground. Then just shell him from a distance! He won't shoot back either! Now is that DUMB, or what!

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SailorSteve
09-13-2004, 04:43 PM
Bottoming the boat works great in AOD. Here's a thought about the seeming 'currents': I don't know about SHII, but in Destroyer Command if you are at rest and you order "Right Full Rudder", the ship will slowly begin to turn.

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