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McTriggerhappy
08-27-2004, 07:29 AM
yeah, how come every other country talks with normal volume, and I can't hear what the americans are saying? is this a problem with the sound files themselves, or some other messed up sound setup thing

McTriggerhappy
08-27-2004, 07:29 AM
yeah, how come every other country talks with normal volume, and I can't hear what the americans are saying? is this a problem with the sound files themselves, or some other messed up sound setup thing

McTriggerhappy
08-27-2004, 07:35 AM
or is it supposed to be like that in real life

Nanuk66
08-27-2004, 07:37 AM
Pump up the volume

Pump up the volume

Pump up the volume

Dance Dance.

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English lesson 101:
The word is 'Lose' not 'Loose'. e.g.
That IL2 is gonna lose the fight against that 109.
That IL2's wing looks loose, its gonna fall off.
If i dive too vertically i will lose my wing. k thx.
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Red_Russian13
08-27-2004, 07:39 AM
Isn't that a reference to CMC Music Factory?

Red Russian

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v256/Red_Russian13/RedRussian.jpg

Nanuk66
08-27-2004, 07:41 AM
I was thinking more of the M/A/R/R/S track from 1987.

I know the one ur thinking of thou i think.

-----------------------------
English lesson 101:
The word is 'Lose' not 'Loose'. e.g.
That IL2 is gonna lose the fight against that 109.
That IL2's wing looks loose, its gonna fall off.
If i dive too vertically i will lose my wing. k thx.
------------------------------

kn00bski
08-27-2004, 08:41 AM
It´s because they carry a big stick...

FPerkin
08-27-2004, 08:44 AM
I always thought that we were loud and obnoxious. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

El Turo
08-27-2004, 09:22 AM
PUT THE NEEDLE ON THE RECORD!

http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Callsign "Turo" in IL2:FB & WWIIOL
______________________
This place
was once
a place
of worship
I thought,
reloading my rifle.

~V.

XyZspineZyX
08-27-2004, 09:57 AM
You want volume? Fly a German bird.

Another subtle sign of the "B-word" built into the game. The Luftwaffe pilots fairly *scream* any communication, especially in combat.

It sounds like they're on fire the whole time.

"Schiess' ihm ab!!" "Boah, ich bin getroffen!!!" "Ich springe! Ich springe!!"

and the classic, "Scheisse, so eine scheisse, sie hab' mich erwischt!!!"
(the pilot's crying that he's been shot down during the descent rather than shutting up and bailing out!)

Meanwhile, all the VVS pilots are calm and cool under fire.

mortoma
08-27-2004, 09:59 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by McTriggerhappy:
yeah, how come every other country talks with normal volume, and I can't hear what the americans are saying? is this a problem with the sound files themselves, or some other messed up sound setup thing<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>It's probably the sound files, they were most likely recorded at a lower level than the others. There are many different wav file programs which will allow you to raise the volume. If you have a Creative sound card, Creative Wave Studio is a program that comes on their installation CD which will allow you to easily alter the files and increase thier volume, relative to the other sound files in the game.

mortoma
08-27-2004, 10:01 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Stiglr:
You want volume? Fly a German bird.

Another subtle sign of the "B-word" built into the game. The Luftwaffe pilots fairly *scream* any communication, especially in combat.

It sounds like they're on fire the whole time.

"Schiess' ihm ab!!" "Boah, ich bin getroffen!!!" "Ich springe! Ich springe!!"

and the classic, "Scheisse, so eine scheisse, sie hab' mich erwischt!!!"
(the pilot's crying that he's been shot down during the descent rather than shutting up and bailing out!)

Meanwhile, all the VVS pilots are calm and cool under fire.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Yeah, and the weird thing about the German voices is that they scream for a few seconds after they have died and are in pieces on the ground!!!

Kartveli
08-27-2004, 10:33 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Stiglr:
You want volume? Fly a German bird.

Another subtle sign of the "B-word" built into the game. The Luftwaffe pilots fairly *scream* any communication, especially in combat.

It sounds like they're on fire the whole time.


Oddly enough, the gunner in the IL-2 gets SO perturbed and worked up, even if you stray off the runway just a bit..he's going to have to face 20 and 30mm shells soon, and he's that upset over a few bumps on the ground? gimma a break.....and while you're at tiem, give me most, if not all sounds the quality of Jane's (that ignorant ****!)...better yet, lift them directly from Jane's, put them in FB and work on the rest!...can we even get some kinda airframe creaks, ala Jane's?

"Schiess' ihm ab!!" "Boah, ich bin getroffen!!!" "Ich springe! Ich springe!!"

and the classic, "Scheisse, so eine scheisse, sie hab' mich erwischt!!!"
(the pilot's crying that he's been shot down during the descent rather than shutting up and bailing out!)

Meanwhile, all the VVS pilots are calm and cool under fire.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Kartveli
08-27-2004, 10:36 AM
Hmmmmm that last try didn't work........sorry....

Funny that the VVS are so calm, given the IL-2 gunner gets SO perturbed about straying a bit off the runway at take-off...he going to face 20 and 30mm shells soon, and he's upset over a few bumps on the take off? pl-eaze...gimme a break....and while you're at it, also give me the quality of sounds like Jane's (that ignorant ****!)...in fact, just lift the sounds in Jane's directly, and work on the rest, please!...we don't even have in FB the sound of creaking airframes in high G, like Jane's....<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Stiglr:
You want volume? Fly a German bird.

Another subtle sign of the "B-word" built into the game. The Luftwaffe pilots fairly *scream* any communication, especially in combat.

It sounds like they're on fire the whole time.

"Schiess' ihm ab!!" "Boah, ich bin getroffen!!!" "Ich springe! Ich springe!!"

and the classic, "Scheisse, so eine scheisse, sie hab' mich erwischt!!!"
(the pilot's crying that he's been shot down during the descent rather than shutting up and bailing out!)

Meanwhile, all the VVS pilots are calm and cool under fire.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

horseback
08-27-2004, 10:44 AM
It's the Yeager factor, for those of you who haven't read 'The Right Stuff.' American pilots have made a cult of sounding like a laconic hillbilly no matter how much fecal matter is airborne, ever since Yeager broke the sound barrier, and his recorded radio conversations were made public.

He sounded like he was little bit amused by the whole thing and he was so damned cool that everybody in the aviation community started copying his style. It's a freakin' cult in the USAF, which previously tended to be frantic, loud, profane, and constant(possibly due to the AAF's distribution of pep pills and coffee), puctuated by the wing or squadron leader bellowing "That'll be enough of that Gaaawd-damned radio chatter!" periodically.

Of course, it could be that the guys the game creators asked to do the American voice files were just self conscious bad actors.

cheers

horseback

"Here's your new Mustangs, boys. You can learn to fly'em on the way to the target. Cheers!" -LTCOL Don Blakeslee, 4th FG CO, February 27th, 1944

carguy_
08-27-2004, 10:51 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Stiglr:
You want volume? Fly a German bird.

Another subtle sign of the "B-word" built into the game. The Luftwaffe pilots fairly *scream* any communication, especially in combat.

It sounds like they're on fire the whole time.

"Schiess' ihm ab!!" "Boah, ich bin getroffen!!!" "Ich springe! Ich springe!!"

and the classic, "Scheisse, so eine scheisse, sie hab' mich erwischt!!!"
(the pilot's crying that he's been shot down during the descent rather than shutting up and bailing out!)

Meanwhile, all the VVS pilots are calm and cool under fire.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Let`em be they sound as if they would fall asleep in a minnit,very boring.
German speech files were one of plenty things that made me fly LW.S! to the guy who did German speech,a work of art I say!.I don`t think any human in danger would just say "This is nine,he`s on me,I`m wounded,plz help".Nooo,he would "D@MMIT D@MMIT GET ME OUT OF HERE HEEELP!!" - realism.
I looove to hear this "TREFFER!ES HAT GESESSEN!" line.
RAF speech is also boring.Where is the "Good show chaps!","Let`s go for a tea chip chip cheerioh!" stuff?

http://carguy.w.interia.pl/tracki/sig23d.jpg

Kartveli
08-27-2004, 11:08 AM
Iliked Jane's pilot chatter;

German, after shooting down a plane
"i'll see you in HELL!"

British, after being hit
"my kite's been pranged!"

American, at almost anytime...
"son of a *****!"

tttiger
08-27-2004, 11:42 AM
The American voice actors Oleg used are truly awful and the transmissions don't sound like any radio chatter I heard in the military.

The voice packs available at Newtwings include many real radio transmissions and the contrast between those and those twangy, nasal voice actors in the sim is very evident. (The voice packs are wonderful, btw, the British one being the best).

Of course, Oleg also thinks all engines sound like a lawn mower. Sound isn't exactly the strong point of this sim.

Horseback, of course I read "The Right Stuff" but you have to take anything Tom Wolfe writes with many grains of salt. He does say that all the airline pilots in the 1950s and 60s tried to imitate Yeager. But I think the truth is that Yeager reflected the cultural norm of the pilot community, rather than the other way around. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

ttt

"I want the one that kills the best with the least amount of risk to me"

-- Chuck Yeager describing "The Best Airplane."

meh_cd
08-27-2004, 12:52 PM
Anyone hear the new Rammstein single? It's called Amerika. You can probably figure it out right there...

Why do the Americans talk so soft? *shrug* I just wish ALL of them were the hillbilly! He sounds funny. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

air_malik
08-27-2004, 01:03 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>
and the classic, "Scheisse, so eine scheisse, sie hab' mich erwischt!!!"
(the pilot's crying that he's been shot down during the descent rather than shutting up and bailing out!)<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I like Altavista's translation of the above:

sh1t, thus one sh!ts, it me got

meh_cd
08-27-2004, 01:06 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by air_malik:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>
and the classic, "Scheisse, so eine scheisse, sie hab' mich erwischt!!!"
(the pilot's crying that he's been shot down during the descent rather than shutting up and bailing out!)<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I like Altavista's translation of the above:

sh1t, thus one sh!ts, it me got<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/blink.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

steve_v
08-27-2004, 02:57 PM
Please keep the politics in the PTs.

BeoWolf_361st
08-27-2004, 04:12 PM
How would you enjoy time away from posting on these forums? PT me if you'd like to discuss the proposistion.

[This message was edited by steve_v on Fri August 27 2004 at 03:21 PM.]

VMF-213_Frosty
08-27-2004, 05:18 PM
We talk softly but carry a big stick

VMF-213 (http://www.clantoolz.com/vmf213/forum/sitenews.asp)
http://img43.exs.cx/img43/5706/FrostySig.jpg

Somebody said that carrier pilots were the best in the world, and they must be or there wouldn't be any of them left alive.

" Ernie Pyle

horseback
08-27-2004, 06:14 PM
Triple-t,

'Fraid that on this one Wolfe got it right. The first 18 years of my life were spent as an Air Force dependent, and the Old Man retired as a Master Sergeant Air Traffic Controller in '71. I've spent beaucoup hours in the tower listening to the younger pilots try to 'do' Yeager, while their older XOs and COs tried to maintain an almost British sounding prewar upperclass tone.

They did, however, like the idea of the cult of calmness in an emergency. Like panic, coolness under fire is contagious, and highly desirable in a combat unit.

cheers

horseback

"Here's your new Mustangs, boys. You can learn to fly'em on the way to the target. Cheers!" -LTCOL Don Blakeslee, 4th FG CO, February 27th, 1944

heywooood
08-27-2004, 06:19 PM
thanks,Horseback...simply and succinctly put.
there is no point hollering when the pucker factor rises...


http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v250/heywooood/ac_32_1.jpg
"Check your guns"

Dolemite-
08-27-2004, 06:23 PM
The question is why are the Germans so pissed off? I ask for the vector back to base and the tower screams it at me. Or if you ever ask for assistance in a german bird, the tower responds "NO ASSISTANCE FOR YOU!"

Their crazy...

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Flying on HL as {Dolemite}
http://www.talonse.com/supergreg.swf &lt;----- ya wont regret it

meh_cd
08-27-2004, 06:30 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by heywooood:
thanks,Horseback...simply and succinctly put.
there is no point hollering when the pucker factor rises...


http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v250/heywooood/ac_32_1.jpg
"Check your guns"<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Tell that to the Germans. :P It sounds like they shat their pants. :P (Note: Just joking)

tttiger
08-27-2004, 07:59 PM
LOL, Horseback, I concede to your first-hand knowledge. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

S!

ttt

"I want the one that kills the best with the least amount of risk to me"

-- Chuck Yeager describing "The Best Airplane."

PraetorHonoris
08-27-2004, 08:08 PM
German soldiers were drilled to speak loudly and clearly - always.
The drill seargents took (and take) this very seriously. I can still remember my first day in the Luftwaffe, when the Stabsunteroffizier shouted at me, because I did not speak loud enough.

The tone in German military was always very rough, although our fly*ng comrads tend to be more relaxed than the rest of us.

But in a burning plane, I would not stay cool, I think.

http://img15.exs.cx/img15/8182/siglan1.jpg
"The presence of the Tiger reassured everyone. They were like steel fortresses and no Russian tank could equal them" - Guy Sayer The Forgotten Soldier

meh_cd
08-27-2004, 08:14 PM
The German military is awesome. I don't know why, you guys just rock. Even though you were the bad guys you rocked. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Treetop64
08-27-2004, 08:18 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by horseback:
They did, however, like the idea of the cult of calmness in an emergency. Like panic, coolness under fire is contagious, and highly desirable in a combat unit.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I wholly agree, except that I don't think that it's done because we like the idea of calmness in an emergency. Rather, when you're trained to operate in a certain environment and you face an emergency for which you've trained for as well, then the training takes over. You are on "auto-pilot" at that point; you know exactly what you must do and you don't panic. You don't have to try not to panic, you just automatically don't. It's difficult to explain, really.

I've flown in Coast Guard C-130s as a radioman and navigator in some hairy situations at times. Granted, I've never seen combat, but flying out in the crappiest weather imaginable to find some poor sap in his sailboat caught in a hurricane...well, sometimes I though we would end up being the ones needing rescue ourselves.

Platypus_1.JaVA
08-28-2004, 03:29 AM
http://images.shockwave.com/afassets/flash/this_land.swf

1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge,
ye shall be judged: and with what
measure ye mete, it shall be measured
to you again.

Placed 3rd, with team, in the official european championship Il-2/FB

Treetop64
08-28-2004, 10:17 AM
LMFAO!! That was classic! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/88.gif

Boy, is this country in trouble, or what?!

Red_Russian13
08-28-2004, 06:09 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by NaNuK66:
I was thinking more of the M/A/R/R/S track from 1987.

I know the one ur thinking of thou i think.

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[QUOTE]

Man, that's still funny. I could hear the song when I read that....

Where are these sound packs again? I'd be interested in downloading them...

Red Russian

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v256/Red_Russian13/RedRussian.jpg

Skycat_2
08-29-2004, 12:05 AM
I think that the US speech files were recorded by 'Luthier' for the "Forgotten Battles" product back when the P-47 was getting shoe-horned in as a fully American flyable. My ears only hear one actor so it was probably a solo effort all the way and submitted as a third-party project.

As a matter of perspective, does anybody else remember when the only two language choices were Russian and German, and those were unalterably hardcoded? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Keeper1st
08-29-2004, 10:36 AM
Yes, it sounds like the same person's voice, just run through different filters in an effort to make it sound like multiple people. The filters, though, make some of the samples extremely quiet.

It wouldn't be difficult for one to record one's own samples. It might be odd for whoever does it when playing the sim, however -- hearing yourself talking to you...

Ages ago, I recorded all my own talkbacks in Pro Pilot, which was probably close to 100 samples -- many of which needed to flow together like the FB samples do, so I know it can be done.

I guess the demand is low because of the lack of U.S. planes, so nobody has done it. Or we're all waiting for PF which should have a nice speech pack...

Tater-SW-
08-29-2004, 10:50 AM
The American voices in FB/AEP are horrid.

"Congratulations!" Unfortunately the rest of that transmission was lost, he really says:"Congratulations! Let's talk about it back at the ship over a Cappucino!"

Other missed comments include:

"I'll be right there... to give you a back rub!"

"I'm on fire, AAAAAAHHHH... that lotion BURNS down there!"

tater

GoToAway
08-29-2004, 10:26 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by tttiger:
The voice packs available at Newtwings include many real radio transmissions and the contrast between those and those twangy, nasal voice actors in the sim is very evident. (The voice packs are wonderful, btw, the British one being the best).<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Where are these voice packs located? I just looked through all of the Il-2 sections and even did a search. Nada.