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C0lt4d5
03-08-2017, 02:40 PM
So yesterday after I downloaded the patch, I played 10 dominion games (6:30 EST start time)
Out of those 10 games, I was only able to play two until they were finished. The other 8 games I was booted from, some towards the beginning others at the very end where you kill the other team. That is all, just wanted to let you know The game was unplayable yesterday for me.

Xynrex
03-08-2017, 02:45 PM
wait till you get penalized because you had a dc :D

yes its coming

corazondedelfin
03-08-2017, 02:45 PM
So yesterday after I downloaded the patch, I played 10 dominion games (6:30 EST start time)
Out of those 10 games, I was only able to play two until they were finished. The other 8 games I was booted from, some towards the beginning others at the very end where you kill the other team. That is all, just wanted to let you know The game was unplayable yesterday for me.

I know man, I know, we all do I bet. It happens to me that every 8 matches I get kicked 2 all the day, plus while finding the match I get kicked once every two tries when joining sessions lol And Im not the only one, thats for sure.


UBISOFT, PLEASE READ OUR THREADS AND START FIXING THE PROBLEMS OF THE GAME. Thanks

RatedChaotic
03-08-2017, 02:54 PM
Funny how 130+ games I own on my xbox gives me not one problem in their multiplayer modes. But here its on my end they say. Right. If I can play all those games without changing my settings. What makes you think I'm going to change it for this one game. I wont I'll just move to another title. Its not worth jeopardizing my security and adding a more of a chance of having my account hacked or stolen over this game.

Tho I have a green nat and still get dropped outta 50% of my games. With all the disconnects I get more xp and loot playing with bots solo.

What pisses me off more than anything is knowing loot hasnt dropped in a few matches, so your thinking oh I got a good chance of getting a gear upgrade and I'm doing good in this match and I may lvl to rep3 on this toon awesome....boot to main menu.......wtf....I'll go play something else.

xxSNEAKELLAMAxx
03-08-2017, 03:08 PM
This P2P system is absolute garbage. This is a great game, where I love hacking away the butthurt "button mashers" who will whine when I combo them all day and say I'm cheating. But unfortunately Ubisoft decided that P2P is superior? Yeah, how's that going for you, Ubisoft? You done ****ed up a great game.

DrExtrem
03-08-2017, 03:21 PM
One of the reasons, I turn off matchmaking and play vs. AI.

I only do the daily pvp, if it is duel based.

RatedChaotic
03-08-2017, 03:29 PM
One of the reasons, I turn off matchmaking and play vs. AI.

I only do the daily pvp, if it is duel based.

Same. A multiplayer based pvp game thats pve is better and more stable. Its sad.

Munktor
03-08-2017, 03:58 PM
Same. A multiplayer based pvp game thats pve is better and more stable. Its sad.

It's so weird to me that so many people are experiencing these kind of issues and i'm not.

I'm not trying to say it's not happening, it's clearly happening...but it does make me wonder what's different for me than you. Y'know?

If it was just their p2p connection model, it'd happen to everyone equally...right?

xXl Plan B lXx
03-08-2017, 03:59 PM
Games Attempted
68



Games Completed
21



Games Disconnected
38



Matchmaking Error
9



Percentage Completed
31%








Game
Date
Status
Link


1
8-Mar-2017
DC
http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/xXl%20Plan%20B%20lXx/video/27999684


2
8-Mar-2017
DC
http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/xXl%20Plan%20B%20lXx/video/27999685


3
8-Mar-2017
DC
http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/xXl%20Plan%20B%20lXx/video/27999688


4
8-Mar-2017
MM
http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/xXl%20Plan%20B%20lXx/video/27999692


5
7-Mar-2017
DC
http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/xXl%20Plan%20B%20lXx/video/27981375


6
7-Mar-2017
DC
http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/xXl%20Plan%20B%20lXx/video/27981376


7
7-Mar-2017
DC
http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/xXl%20Plan%20B%20lXx/video/27981377


8
7-Mar-2017
DC
http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/xXl%20Plan%20B%20lXx/video/27981378


9
7-Mar-2017
DC
http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/xXl%20Plan%20B%20lXx/video/27981578


10
7-Mar-2017
C



11
7-Mar-2017
C



12
7-Mar-2017
C



13
7-Mar-2017
C



14
7-Mar-2017
C



15
7-Mar-2017
MM



16
7-Mar-2017
MM



17
7-Mar-2017
C



18
5-Mar-2017
C



19
5-Mar-2017
C



20
5-Mar-2017
C



21
5-Mar-2017
C



22
5-Mar-2017
DC



23
5-Mar-2017
DC



24
3-Mar-2017
MM
http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/xXl%20Plan%20B%20lXx/video/27803036


25
3-Mar-2017
MM
http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/xXl%20Plan%20B%20lXx/video/27803039


26
3-Mar-2017
DC
http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/xXl%20Plan%20B%20lXx/video/27803640


27
3-Mar-2017
C
Score was 800-200 when I was put into the game


28
3-Mar-2017
C



29
3-Mar-2017
DC
http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/xXl%20Plan%20B%20lXx/video/27804255


30
3-Mar-2017
C



31
3-Mar-2017
MM
http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/xXl%20Plan%20B%20lXx/video/27804255


32
3-Mar-2017
DC
http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/xXl%20Plan%20B%20lXx/video/27804462


33
3-Mar-2017
MM



34
3-Mar-2017
MM
http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/xXl%20Plan%20B%20lXx/video/27804464


35
3-Mar-2017
C
http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/xXl%20Plan%20B%20lXx/video/27804464


36
2-Mar-2017
DC
http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/xXl%20Plan%20B%20lXx/video/27736537


37
2-Mar-2017
C



38
2-Mar-2017
DC
http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/xXl%20Plan%20B%20lXx/video/27739101


39
2-Mar-2017
DC
http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/xXl%20Plan%20B%20lXx/video/27777561


40
2-Mar-2017
DC
http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/xXl%20Plan%20B%20lXx/video/27778916


41
2-Mar-2017
MM
http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/xXl%20Plan%20B%20lXx/video/27778917 (http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/xXl%20Plan%20B%20lXx/video/27778917)


42
2-Mar-2017
C



43
2-Mar-2017
C



44
2-Mar-2017
C



45
1-Mar-2017
DC
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/125723913


46
1-Mar-2017
C
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/125723913


47
1-Mar-2017
DC



48
1-Mar-2017
DC



49
28-Feb-2017
DC
http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/xXl%20Plan%20B%20lXx/video/27642871


50
28-Feb-2017
DC
http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/xXl%20Plan%20B%20lXx/video/27642985


51
28-Feb-2017
DC
http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/xXl%20Plan%20B%20lXx/video/27642986


52
28-Feb-2017
DC
http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/xXl%20Plan%20B%20lXx/video/27625593


53
28-Feb-2017
DC
http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/xXl%20Plan%20B%20lXx/video/27625592


54
28-Feb-2017
DC
http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/xXl%20Plan%20B%20lXx/video/27625592


55
28-Feb-2017
DC
http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/xXl%20Plan%20B%20lXx/video/27643181


56
28-Feb-2017
DC
http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/xXl%20Plan%20B%20lXx/video/27643526


57
28-Feb-2017
C



58
28-Feb-2017
C



59
27-Feb-2017
DC
http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/xXl%20Plan%20B%20lXx/video/27625582


60
27-Feb-2017
DC
http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/xXl%20Plan%20B%20lXx/video/27625583


61
27-Feb-2017
DC
http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/xXl%20Plan%20B%20lXx/video/27625586


62
27-Feb-2017
DC
http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/xXl%20Plan%20B%20lXx/video/27625587


63
27-Feb-2017
DC
http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/xXl%20Plan%20B%20lXx/video/27625588


64
27-Feb-2017
DC
http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/xXl%20Plan%20B%20lXx/video/27625589


65
27-Feb-2017
DC
http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/xXl%20Plan%20B%20lXx/video/27625590


66
27-Feb-2017
DC
http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/xXl%20Plan%20B%20lXx/video/27625592


67
27-Feb-2017
DC
http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/xXl%20Plan%20B%20lXx/video/27625593


68
27-Feb-2017
DC
http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/xXl%20Plan%20B%20lXx/video/27625595

SethUnleashed
03-08-2017, 04:04 PM
wait till you get penalized because you had a dc :D

yes its coming

no its not... they said that they are going to make sure not to punish disconnected people and that they have ways of telling the difference.

C0lt4d5
03-08-2017, 04:13 PM
It's so weird to me that so many people are experiencing these kind of issues and i'm not.

I'm not trying to say it's not happening, it's clearly happening...but it does make me wonder what's different for me than you. Y'know?

If it was just their p2p connection model, it'd happen to everyone equally...right?
Are you playing dominion? It mostly happens for dominion.

Captain-Courage
03-08-2017, 04:14 PM
no its not... they said that they are going to make sure not to punish disconnected people and that they have ways of telling the difference.

They don't.
They've just gone full damage control mode right now because the retention rate of the game is catastrophic (even more on PC), below their expectations of course (this weekend event failure is a strong sign of that, they over estimated their user base) and every metric shows for now that FH will follow the same path than The Division last year, on PC at least (more than 90 % of the steam playerbase lost in 2 months for Division, not all PC players ok, but still a very, very significant sample).

What would be really nice would be to be a little mouse to overhear what they're telling themselves in their meetings nowadays. I'm sure some people at Ubi advocated for a dedicated servers architecture.

There must be a lot of " I told you so ..." flying around in Ubisoft's meeting rooms these days.

Xynrex
03-08-2017, 04:15 PM
no its not... they said that they are going to make sure not to punish disconnected people and that they have ways of telling the difference.


there is no way to tell the diffrence. There is no game out there that can tell the diffrence.

Only if you are going to go out through the menu.

There are plenty of ways to quit a game without the menu.

And you dont expect ubisoft to find a solution that is accurate - are you now? Cause we wouldnt have this mess in the first place.

Munktor
03-08-2017, 04:16 PM
Are you playing dominion? It mostly happens for dominion.

Dominion is my most played mode, but I dabble in all the modes a bit.

The few disconnects I have had since launch came from Skirmish and each time I remember people rage-quitting and then the host migration, then the game crashing.

Such leads me to consider the intentional disconnects are exacerbating the unintentional disconnects.

RatedChaotic
03-08-2017, 04:23 PM
It's so weird to me that so many people are experiencing these kind of issues and i'm not.

I'm not trying to say it's not happening, it's clearly happening...but it does make me wonder what's different for me than you. Y'know?

If it was just their p2p connection model, it'd happen to everyone equally...right?

Not necessarily. There are many factors that come into play with p2p. Whether it be speeds, ISP, network setting, hardware your using, software your using ect ect. Who knows the issues could be a mix of those things combined with others that are running a different mix of those and we are getting connected together. Thats when alot of problems occur. I just dont believe UBI looked at all those factors before making the decision to go with p2p. Hence why players are having problems and some are not. Basically they made a game some can play and some cant.

Munktor
03-08-2017, 04:28 PM
Not necessarily. There are many factors that come into play with p2p. I just dont believe UBI looked at all those factors before making the decision to go with p2p. Hence why players are having problems and some are not. Basically they made a game some can play and some cant.

Makes sense.

Based on what I do know about dedicated servers and latency normalization, it wouldn't be ideal for this game. The input delay would actually increase across the board, despite having a more stable connection to a static server (instead of dynamic p2p hosting).

I think both have pros and cons and personally would rather higher chance of discons with faster gameplay recognition than slower gameplay recognition with a more stable connection.

I.E. i'll take more drops over more input delay every day.

xXl Plan B lXx
03-08-2017, 04:30 PM
First you say there is no way to tell the difference then you counter your own argument with well only if you go out through the menu. So you're saying there is a way...


there is no way to tell the diffrence. There is no game out there that can tell the diffrence.

Only if you are going to go out through the menu.

There are plenty of ways to quit a game without the menu.

And you dont expect ubisoft to find a solution that is accurate - are you now? Cause we wouldnt have this mess in the first place.

Captain-Courage
03-08-2017, 04:34 PM
Based on what I do know about dedicated servers and latency normalization, it wouldn't be ideal for this game. The input delay would actually increase across the board, despite having a more stable connection to a static server (instead of dynamic p2p hosting).

I think both have pros and cons and personally would rather higher chance of discons with faster gameplay recognition than slower gameplay recognition with a more stable connection.

I.E. i'll take more drops over more input delay every day.

Except if you have a good netcode, a good architecture, have allocated a sufficient bandwith (always overlooked), a deidcated servers artchitecture is not really the problem, and can be opened for players to host their own servers.

Chivalry, which have a faster gameplay than For Honor, can be hosted with 32 vs 32 players matches without problems.

Same thing with Mount and Blade (yes, I know, it's kinda old now) and its 100 vs 100 sieges.

xXl Plan B lXx
03-08-2017, 04:40 PM
I respect your posts and opinion. You're one of the more level headed folks I see on here. Did you look at my log for the last week?

Games Attempted 68
Games Completed 21
Games Disconnected 38
Matchmaking Error 9
Percentage Completed 31%

I have a 10MB up and 10mb Down connection. Open NAT. My Console is in a DMZ meaning all ports are open. I have about a 40-68MS ping or latency. I'd take a lesser game to actually stay in a game. When you're only completing 31% of your games, the games not being played very well right now for me and EVERY other player that I currently play with. We try to play seperately. Same problem.

At least with a lesser system I'd be able to actually get my money's worth from the game. I bought the Gold Edition. This is just one week's worth of games, but the play has been the same since the day that the game came out. So lets just do some simple math on what that means for me personally, as I don't like to speak for others. My play has dropped off with regards to the game as a whole as my frustration has gotten worse so I'll just stick with the flat numbers above. Since February 14th, I've attempted to join 204 games. I've completed 63 of them. Of the 141 others that I didn't complete somewhere in the middle of the game or at the very end of the game when a team is breaking, I've been disconnected 114 times. 114. Think about that for a minute. 114 games that I have not been able to complete in 3 weeks of the game being out.

The forums are filled with hundreds of people who are having similar problems just like I am, and the company says, we're going to start punishing people who leave. They're basically telling me that the reason I've been disconnected from 114 games is because people are quitting games, and they're going to punish them now. Just one problem. I walk over and reset my router and guess what they see on the server side of things. Disconnection.

I'm frustrated with the game. I am frustrated that I paid 100 dollars and won't get to utilize the gifts that were granted with it, and most of all I'm frustrated that I don't get to actually play the game. My wife's happy. More is getting done around the house. Maybe she's doing it on purpose. :P


Based on what I do know about dedicated servers and latency normalization, it wouldn't be ideal for this game. The input delay would actually increase across the board,
despite having a more stable connection to a static server (instead of dynamic p2p hosting).

Munktor
03-08-2017, 04:57 PM
I respect your posts and opinion. You're one of the more level headed folks I see on here. Did you look at my log for the last week?

Games Attempted 68
Games Completed 21
Games Disconnected 38
Matchmaking Error 9
Percentage Completed 31%

I have a 10MB up and 10mb Down connection. Open NAT. My Console is in a DMZ meaning all ports are open. I have about a 40-68MS ping or latency. I'd take a lesser game to actually stay in a game. When you're only completing 31% of your games, the games not being played very well right now for me and EVERY other player that I currently play with. We try to play seperately. Same problem.

At least with a lesser system I'd be able to actually get my money's worth from the game. I bought the Gold Edition. This is just one week's worth of games, but the play has been the same since the day that the game came out. So lets just do some simple math on what that means for me personally, as I don't like to speak for others. My play has dropped off with regards to the game as a whole as my frustration has gotten worse so I'll just stick with the flat numbers above. Since February 14th, I've attempted to join 204 games. I've completed 63 of them. Of the 141 others that I didn't complete somewhere in the middle of the game or at the very end of the game when a team is breaking, I've been disconnected 114 times. 114. Think about that for a minute. 114 games that I have not been able to complete in 3 weeks of the game being out.

The forums are filled with hundreds of people who are having similar problems just like I am, and the company says, we're going to start punishing people who leave. They're basically telling me that the reason I've been disconnected from 114 games is because people are quitting games, and they're going to punish them now. Just one problem. I walk over and reset my router and guess what they see on the server side of things. Disconnection.

I'm frustrated with the game. I am frustrated that I paid 100 dollars and won't get to utilize the gifts that were granted with it, and most of all I'm frustrated that I don't get to actually play the game. My wife's happy. More is getting done around the house. Maybe she's doing it on purpose. :P

I understand your frustration and don't feel you should or shouldn't be upset at all.

I personally don't know the best solution, but the devs are pretty clear that dedicated servers aren't what they feel is the best solution. Simply put, it's not going to happen - so we as consumers have a choice to play or not. Personally, i'm going to keep playing because i'm having fun and not suffering major issues. We're I to be suffering major issues, i'd just return it and play something else.

I know that doesn't work for everyone, but nothing will.

xXl Plan B lXx
03-08-2017, 06:35 PM
I hear everything you're saying. Let me ask you this. I can play Destiny, StarWars Battlefront, Infinite Warfare, Modern Warfare Remastered, Forza Horizon 3, The Division, NBA 2k17, and Smite online without a single issue. I play 1 hour of this game and I have 5-8 disconnects and no games completed.

If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck then it's a duck. It's not hard to isolate where the issue is with regards to my game play. EVERY Game I play works but For Honor. EVERY step they've asked me to complete is done and working as expected.

What I think often goes as a silent statement is that I'm not the only one. Yes people don't have problems. That's great. But the games numbers are dwindling fast, and players like me who are wanting to play and can't will be dropping soon too. This is almost a month long saga. It's tiresome. I feel like I wasted my money at times.


I understand your frustration and don't feel you should or shouldn't be upset at all.

I personally don't know the best solution, but the devs are pretty clear that dedicated servers aren't what they feel is the best solution. Simply put, it's not going to happen - so we as consumers have a choice to play or not. Personally, i'm going to keep playing because i'm having fun and not suffering major issues. We're I to be suffering major issues, i'd just return it and play something else.

I know that doesn't work for everyone, but nothing will.