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Maple_Tiger
02-24-2004, 01:05 PM
Is our view of reality correct?

When we say earth, is earth really just a planet?

What about our solar system? Is it really a solar system?

When we look out side are solar system we can see other solar systems that make up the Milky way galaxy. Is the Milky way galaxy really a galaxy?


What if i told you that we are just living on a(Proton, Neutron or Electron)?

If that is the case then would not are solar system be just an Atom.

So then we have the so called Milky way full of Atoms. Then what is the Milky way? A Molecule?

So then are universe is full of Molecule's. Whats really are universe? An element? What kind of Element?

Are we so insignificant that we are actually just living inside a peas of grass? Or what if we are actually just living inside someone?


Does Maple_Tiger need help?

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Maple_Tiger
02-24-2004, 01:05 PM
Is our view of reality correct?

When we say earth, is earth really just a planet?

What about our solar system? Is it really a solar system?

When we look out side are solar system we can see other solar systems that make up the Milky way galaxy. Is the Milky way galaxy really a galaxy?


What if i told you that we are just living on a(Proton, Neutron or Electron)?

If that is the case then would not are solar system be just an Atom.

So then we have the so called Milky way full of Atoms. Then what is the Milky way? A Molecule?

So then are universe is full of Molecule's. Whats really are universe? An element? What kind of Element?

Are we so insignificant that we are actually just living inside a peas of grass? Or what if we are actually just living inside someone?


Does Maple_Tiger need help?

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oFZo
02-24-2004, 01:07 PM
I want that stuff you're smoking, it's better than mine! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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UncleVanya2001
02-24-2004, 01:08 PM
Maple, lay off the ganj, hoss.

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BaldieJr
02-24-2004, 01:08 PM
Have a burger and ask yourself:

Do I really care?

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Dolemite-
02-24-2004, 01:09 PM
Lay off the shrooms, and dont think so much http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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Cajun76
02-24-2004, 01:09 PM
I see I have to remember to sleep with my tinfoil hat on, http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/crazy.gif to prevent others from reading my thoughts... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-mad.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/crazy.gif



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TugZooey
02-24-2004, 01:10 PM
Hey, what movie is that from? The Graduate? I thought Dustin Hoffman was in it whatever it is. Oh yeah, please pass it on http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif .

Maple_Tiger
02-24-2004, 01:10 PM
Are we realy Humans.

Is the turm Human correct?

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Taylortony
02-24-2004, 01:10 PM
Bet he's typing with his nose as the straighjacket prevents him using his fingers http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Heard an argument like this before, but the universe was in a spot of dust http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif hehehehehehe can put reality into perspective though http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Mitlov47
02-24-2004, 01:11 PM
What does this have to do with the game "IL-2 Sturmovik"? At least discussions about the USAAF bombing Auschwitz or the IL-10 in Korea are *indirectly* related to the game.

Maple_Tiger
02-24-2004, 01:14 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by EMitton:
What does this have to do with the game "IL-2 Sturmovik"? At least discussions about the USAAF bombing Auschwitz or the IL-10 in Korea are *indirectly* related to the game.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Hey,

What happend to your imagenation?

You should realy experiment with shrooms man. Stuff rocks

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TgD Thunderbolt56
02-24-2004, 01:17 PM
Our perception of reality is OUR reality. So, it's all relative. Do you perceive the Earth to be a planet?

Base your conclusions on your experiences both academic and human and follow your instinct grasshopper for when you feel you have the answer, you may just be able to take this pebble from my hand.

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DrDave242
02-24-2004, 01:19 PM
Allow me to quote a line from a story I just read: "Edward Parker had never worked a single day in his thiry-eight years of life. He was, as a result, a philosopher."

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SeaFireLIV
02-24-2004, 01:20 PM
To your question Maple Tiger...



yes.

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Maple_Tiger
02-24-2004, 01:21 PM
I already took the pebble from your hand while you where typing.

When i feel i have the answer?

depends i guess, on how i choose to view reality right?http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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Maple_Tiger
02-24-2004, 01:24 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SeaFireLIV:
To your question Maple Tiger...



yes.

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Yes?

As in what way?

1) I need help?
2) Are we realy humans, is the trum Humn correct?

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CaptainGelo
02-24-2004, 01:25 PM
was thinking about stuff like that, they only thing I got out of it is pain in the head http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

how u know its not a dream or matrix? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

lbhskier37
02-24-2004, 01:25 PM
I believe that everything must be made up of something smaller. Neutrons and protons are made up of smaller units we have now found, those smaller units must be made of something. Who is to say that our universe isnt just a small unit of something else? Is existance an infinite fractal? I kinda would like to agree with that thought.

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Maj_Death
02-24-2004, 01:51 PM
That "solid wood" furniture you have is not solid wood. It isn't solid anything. So yes you are right the world we percieve is not real. It is merely our interpretation of the world. BTW thinking too much is good. People make statues of you sitting around nude if you think alot. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

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JoachimvMayern
02-24-2004, 01:59 PM
You know, if you look at the relationship model of electrons, protons and neutrons, you will see that they behave in a similar fashion as planets and suns in a solar system. Maybe your right. Maybe will do reside in this manner and our universe is actually part of some material in a bigger world. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

UncleVanya2001
02-24-2004, 02:01 PM
Pick up a copy of "The Doors of Perception" by Aldous Huxley.

Huxley chronicles his first experience with synthetic mescaline. (He took it as an EXPERIMENT, understand. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif) He asks these same kinds of questions about perception vs reality, and even wonders if genius's or artists view the world with those doors open...me, my door is closed. Firmly. I'm no fruitcake. Honest.

But when you're done reading that, read "One Flew Of The Cuckoo's Nest."

(Why Cuckooo's Nest? Becaus its the BEST BOOK OF THE 20th CENTURY!!! Ta HELL with Gatsby!)

UV

Maple_Tiger
02-24-2004, 02:06 PM
What about what Ibhskier37 said.

" posted 24-02-04 12:25
I believe that everything must be made up of something smaller. Neutrons and protons are made up of smaller units we have now found, those smaller units must be made of something. Who is to say that our universe isnt just a small unit of something else? Is existance an infinite fractal? I kinda would like to agree with that thought."

So then its quit possible then that the turm insignificant might not cut it. I like the word infinite fractal, very cool.

So what your saying then, is that our universe could just be one of thoughs small units making up an atom.

How do we know for shure?

Who can prove that we are not living on a small unit that makes up an atom?

I think reality is going out window, being replaced by endless possible reality's.


What about the fact the everything fibrates. What if there is another realm that we can't see because we are fibrating at a differant frequency?

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Maple_Tiger
02-24-2004, 02:10 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JoachimvMayern:
You know, if you look at the relationship model of electrons, protons and neutrons, you will see that they behave in a similar fashion as planets and suns in a solar system. Maybe your right. Maybe will do reside in this manner and our universe is actually part of some material in a bigger world. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Yes that thought has crossed my mind many times. I think about that almost ever day.


Atoms move to. So does are universe. lol, what if we are living in a pease of poop?

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BaldieJr
02-24-2004, 02:11 PM
The question that burns on MY mind is this...

What will I gain from such contemplation?

Punch yourself in the face if you think you have an intellectual answer to this.

Him: But what _IS_ Life?
Me: The very thing I will take from you if you don't get your hands off my food.

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Agamemnon22
02-24-2004, 02:12 PM
"Is our view of reality correct?"

no. there is no 'our' reality. Only mine. None of you exist...
I AM the universe.

oh sorry, the nurse is here to tie me up again.. gotta run! run! run like the wind! and twirling! TWIRLING towards freedom!!

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nickdanger3
02-24-2004, 02:19 PM
Have you guys ever looked at your hand?

I mean really LOOKED at your hand?

What was the question?

CAP401
02-24-2004, 02:24 PM
Yes. The universe is only a speack like an atom on another planet-like thing that is part of another universe that is an atom to another planet, and so on. And then we are actually fighting a war that nooe knows about between Neo and Aragorn. And there is asecret school called Hogwarts in Britain, it's all a conspiracy! A CONSPIRACY!!! AHHAA!

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CAP401
02-24-2004, 02:26 PM
To nickdanger: Yes.

Maple_Tiger
02-24-2004, 02:32 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by UncleVanya2001:
Pick up a copy of "The Doors of Perception" by Aldous Huxley.

Huxley chronicles his first experience with synthetic mescaline. (He took it as an EXPERIMENT, understand. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif) He asks these same kinds of questions about perception vs reality, and even wonders if genius's or artists view the world with those doors open...me, my door is closed. Firmly. I'm no fruitcake. Honest.

But when you're done reading that, read "One Flew Of The Cuckoo's Nest."

(Why Cuckooo's Nest? Becaus its the BEST BOOK OF THE 20th CENTURY!!! Ta HELL with Gatsby!)

UV<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Now i know why everything just makes sence when im high on shrooms. Note, it has been like 6 years since i have had any though lol.

But when i did take my last 3 and 1/2 grams of shrooms i had the most pleasant high ever. a freind and i desided to take a trip to the lake and camp there for the weakend.

We had everything, fire wood, snacks; we new we would be in no shape to cook anything lol.

Any way, once i ate the shrooms i started to melow out and then felt very relaxed. Things started to look odd lol. The stars looked like they where Zooming down lol, lmao lol. no joke lol.

While i was laying on the beach looking at the stars lol. I notice that the waves would become louder at certain times, weird like the hearing was 20 times better. I would close my eys and just let the mind just trip. I would see ****, all kinds of stupid stuff lol.

Now at one point every thing was cristal clear. Every thing made sence. I mean mathamatics made sence. The meaning of life made sence. Are whole universe made sence.


Man i miss the old days.

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Maple_Tiger
02-24-2004, 02:40 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by UncleVanya2001:
Pick up a copy of "The Doors of Perception" by Aldous Huxley.

Huxley chronicles his first experience with synthetic mescaline. (He took it as an EXPERIMENT, understand. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif) He asks these same kinds of questions about perception vs reality, and even wonders if genius's or artists view the world with those doors open...me, my door is closed. Firmly. I'm no fruitcake. Honest.

But when you're done reading that, read "One Flew Of The Cuckoo's Nest."

(Why Cuckooo's Nest? Becaus its the BEST BOOK OF THE 20th CENTURY!!! Ta HELL with Gatsby!)

UV<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Lmao,

I have watched One Flew OF The Cuckoo's Nest, great movie. Wasn't it Jack Nicolson that played in it.

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02-24-2004, 02:48 PM
Sorry to change the topic, but anyone tried those Guacamole Dorito's yet?

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gates123
02-24-2004, 02:51 PM
My perception of reality is that bomber gunner/sniper AI is WAY overmodeled and that LA-5/7 couldn't take that many mk108 hits.

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Did anyone see that or was it just me?

Chuck_Older
02-24-2004, 03:02 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Maple_Tiger:
Is our view of reality correct?

When we say earth, is earth really just a planet?

What about our solar system? Is it really a solar system?

When we look out side are solar system we can see other solar systems that make up the Milky way galaxy. Is the Milky way galaxy really a galaxy?


What if i told you that we are just living on a(Proton, Neutron or Electron)?

If that is the case then would not are solar system be just an Atom.

So then we have the so called Milky way full of Atoms. Then what is the Milky way? A Molecule?

So then are universe is full of Molecule's. Whats really are universe? An element? What kind of Element?

Are we so insignificant that we are actually just living inside a peas of grass? Or what if we are actually just living inside someone?


<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Old theory. It's the fish-in-the-sea or eggshell theory, where a fish's world is all he knows: the ocean, and it is all-encompassing. What would it think if it were caught on a hook and yanked up into the world of air? A chick thinks it's world is an eggshell until it breaks through the shell into the world. A baby is much the same way.

Many writers and psycologists comment on this. Time is another fascinating mind bender, there are scientists who will explain that the reason a bird can fly away from a building that is being demolished very quickly, while a snail on the side of the building wouldn't even register the event of the building's demolition, because the bird and the snail perceive time so differently. To the snail, it literally never happened due to it's perception of time, and to the bird, it was like getting a warning hours before the demolition.

Read Stephen King's Dark Tower series of books for a comment on Size. (which I suspect you are currently reading, because of the 'piece of grass' bit http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif )

Reality is 'real'. That's all you need to know. I gotten woken at 2 am yesterday, I had to be up at 5 am anyway, so I got 3 hours of sleep. That's reality. Pretty much the rule of thumb is: if it s*cks, that's reality http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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jensenpark
02-24-2004, 03:06 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by oFZo:
I want that stuff you're smoking, it's better than mine! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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Of course it's better than yours...Mapletiger is from Canada...where the world's best bud is grown. Which, unfortunately, is not the best thing to bragging rights about...but might explain his thoughts... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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CAP401
02-24-2004, 03:21 PM
Wow. THis thread is awesome. I have to go workout and lift a litte bit, but I just have to bump this!

masamainio
02-24-2004, 03:26 PM
There is nothing to worry about.

The universe is just your imagination like everything else that doesn't really exist.

It's in you mind.

Huxley_S
02-24-2004, 03:33 PM
Now you're talking my language here.

The greatest miracle is that give or take a few things we all percieve the universe in the same way and as my illustrious grandfather said "life really is what you make it".

SUPERAEREO
02-24-2004, 03:48 PM
The meaning of life, as any Briton knows, is 42.

And you might be right, but since we will all die, it doesn't really matter much, in practical terms.

But thank you for sharing: I miss my psychedelic days too.

S!

ZG77_Lignite
02-24-2004, 04:24 PM
Einstien had some really interesting things to say about this stuff (him and Schroedinger and and all their buddies). If you think Einstien quit at E=MCsquared, then take a peak at the things he knew back in the thirties, and what them quantum nerds are trying to prove now days. Electrons and Universes are quite unimportant, and really only their because we think they are. Needless to say, I haven't quite figured out a Unified Field Theory yet, but I've almost got it... 2+2=...

crazyivan1970
02-24-2004, 04:30 PM
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Maple_Tiger
02-24-2004, 04:51 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ZG77_Lignite:
Einstien had some really interesting things to say about this stuff (him and Schroedinger and and all their buddies). If you think Einstien quit at E=MCsquared, then take a peak at the things he knew back in the thirties, and what them quantum nerds are trying to prove now days. Electrons and Universes are quite unimportant, and really only their because we think they are. Needless to say, I haven't quite figured out a Unified Field Theory yet, but I've almost got it... 2+2=...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Your not going to beleave this but i figured out the Unified Field theory, 2+2 = 4.

I could be wronge though.

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crazyivan1970
02-24-2004, 04:52 PM
No wonder you flipped over your P-47 http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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Kozhedub: In combat potential, the Yak-3, La-7 and La-9 fighters were indisputably superior to the Bf-109s and Fw-190s. But, as they say, no matter how good the violin may be, much depends on the violinist. I always felt respect for an enemy pilot whose plane I failed to down.

Maple_Tiger
02-24-2004, 04:55 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by crazyivan1970:
No wonder you flipped over your P-47 http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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Kozhedub: In combat potential, the Yak-3, La-7 and La-9 fighters were indisputably superior to the Bf-109s and Fw-190s. But, as they say, no matter how good the violin may be, much depends on the violinist. I always felt respect for an enemy pilot whose plane I failed to down.
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Hey now, it takes great skill to flip a P-47 over and not even scrach the paint. Im afrade ill need to replace the proppeler though.

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crazyivan1970
02-24-2004, 04:57 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Maple_Tiger:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by crazyivan1970:
No wonder you flipped over your P-47 http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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Kozhedub: In combat potential, the Yak-3, La-7 and La-9 fighters were indisputably superior to the Bf-109s and Fw-190s. But, as they say, no matter how good the violin may be, much depends on the violinist. I always felt respect for an enemy pilot whose plane I failed to down.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hey now, it takes great skill to flip a P-47 over and not even scrach the paint. Im afrade ill need to replace the proppeler though.

Capt. 361stMapleTiger.

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<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hmmmm.. i thought complete opposite... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/blink.gif
For some reason i think it takes a great skill not to flip it over http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif - i am such a n00b http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

V!
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Kozhedub: In combat potential, the Yak-3, La-7 and La-9 fighters were indisputably superior to the Bf-109s and Fw-190s. But, as they say, no matter how good the violin may be, much depends on the violinist. I always felt respect for an enemy pilot whose plane I failed to down.

SUPERAEREO
02-24-2004, 05:04 PM
Go for the Superstring Theory Lignite.

Best chance of getting near an Unified Theory yet.

Or so I'm told.

S!

Bristolboy
02-24-2004, 05:07 PM
Whatever it is it's overmodelled.

Slasher16
02-24-2004, 06:07 PM
ARGHHHHHH!!! dnt get me on this subject!! Its so mind boggling that its annoying to think about and i cant stop talking and wondering about it!! Cant be healthy. I wish we knew but thats such an impossible topic for our time.

system specs : P.4 2.6 with HT technology at 800 FSB : 512 2700 DDR RAM : ATI Radeon 9600 XT with newest OMEGA drivers : Onboard sound : 120 GB HD : Saitek X45

Maple_Tiger
02-24-2004, 06:12 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Slasher16:
ARGHHHHHH!!! dnt get me on this subject!! Its so mind boggling that its annoying to think about and i cant stop talking and wondering about it!! Cant be healthy. I wish we knew but thats such an impossible topic for our time.

system specs : P.4 2.6 with HT technology at 800 FSB : 512 2700 DDR RAM : ATI Radeon 9600 XT with newest OMEGA drivers : Onboard sound : 120 GB HD : Saitek X45<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Slasher16 old budy, what do system specs have to do with multiple reality's?

You might even be part of a universe that actualy helps some other dude to run his game.

Capt. 361stMapleTiger.

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Chuck_Older
02-24-2004, 06:24 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Slasher16:
ARGHHHHHH!!! dnt get me on this subject!! Its so mind boggling that its annoying to think about and i cant stop talking and wondering about it!! Cant be healthy. I wish we knew but thats such an impossible topic for our time.

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

It's time you develop a very important ability.
The ability to stop giving one dead rat a** about the issue. It will save your sanity. Trust me http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/crazy.gif

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Mackane_
02-24-2004, 06:27 PM
...how 'bout this...


if love is blind
and God is love
and Ray Charles is blind
then Ray Charles is god.

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Chuck_Older
02-24-2004, 06:29 PM
Nah. God can be anything, so 'blind' doesn't apply.

Also, that is making the assumption that Ray Charles is the only blind man.

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BaldieJr
02-24-2004, 06:29 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Mackane_:
...how 'bout this...


if love is blind
and God is love
and Ray Charles is blind
then Ray Charles is god.

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Liberals are gods? Crap.

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Mackane_
02-24-2004, 06:34 PM
Hey, how'bout that!...it works for
Stevie Wonder and Jeff Healy too.

So theoretically...one can reach god
status be poking his own eyes out. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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BaldieJr
02-24-2004, 06:35 PM
Let us know how that works out for ya, k?

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</pre>

Mackane_
02-24-2004, 06:37 PM
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Chuck_Older
02-24-2004, 06:38 PM
Healy's only legally blind. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gifIf I recall correctly, he has hazy vision for some inches. They called Clapton God but I don't beleive it, I'll take John Lee ****** over Clapton any day of the week.

Oh great, now I have to find my Jeff Healy CD and I haven't seen it in months. You are going to make me organise my blues albums

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Mackane_
02-24-2004, 06:41 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Chuck_Older:
Healy's only legally blind. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gifIf I recall correctly, he has hazy vision for some inches. They called Clapton God but I don't beleive it, I'll take John Lee ****** over Clapton any day of the week.

Oh great, now I have to find my Jeff Healy CD and I haven't seen it in months. You are going to make me organise my blues albums

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<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Absolutely....John Lee and Lightnin' Hopkins!
Check out Danny Gatton if ya get the chance.

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SodBuster43
02-24-2004, 06:43 PM
I have often thought of this myself http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Also, since we are in the process of ruining our "atom", will this create an unstable element? Are we, in fact, a cancer of something much larger? Something to ponder.

Spinnetti
02-24-2004, 07:24 PM
um, let me guess... First year philosopy student?

Not original, but at least unusual in the forum.. Wether religous or not, we are all just insignificant specks of dust in this universe.... Enjoy it while you can!

ZG77_Lignite
02-24-2004, 07:29 PM
Holy cow, I think Maple Tiger may be on to something... The proof IS in his signature picture: his P47 is not upside down, the universe is! I imagine this would be very disorienting to his enemies... Brilliant!.

And the Superstring Theory, that really is interesting, I alwayse felt the answer was based somewhere in the super ball theory from the '70's, though it could be argued that the silly string theory from the '90's has more practical applications. Very intriguing.

Bearcat99
02-24-2004, 08:55 PM
So if this goes on infinitely in both directions then we could be part of some table somewhere and our table could actually be a bunch of universes..... Hey anybody remember the Microverse? Baron Karza and his body Banks&gt; The Micronaughts? Or ..... the Negative Zone as drawn by Jack Kirby?

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Dash_C.
02-24-2004, 08:59 PM
Perhaps proposing such philosophical questions to a forum of flight-simmers is counterproductive.

Then again, there's that million monkey typewriter theory...

Maple_Tiger
02-24-2004, 09:04 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SodBuster43:
I have often thought of this myself http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Also, since we are in the process of ruining our "atom", will this create an unstable element? Are we, in fact, a cancer of something much larger? Something to ponder.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

An atom has protons, nuetrons and electrons. Lets say that one of these protons is earth and we are poisoning it. If the Proton dies(Earth) then mayby the Atom will become unstable cuasing a chain reaction or subnuclear explostion creating a black hole.

This black hole then sucks everything into it. Once it reaches its climbax then it explodes creating a new universe, galaxys, solar sytsems and planets.

I basicaly got this idea from the Discovery channel i think. But the part about Us casusing are proton to die and making everything unstable was from my nutty head.

But there was a show on one time that talked about the Big Boom. How the the Universe is still expanding. Wish i could watch it again, it was very interesting.

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[This message was edited by Maple_Tiger on Tue February 24 2004 at 08:22 PM.]

Maple_Tiger
02-24-2004, 09:08 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Spinnetti:
um, let me guess... First year philosopy student?

Not original, but at least unusual in the forum.. Wether religous or not, we are all just insignificant specks of dust in this universe.... Enjoy it while you can!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Sorry, im not a first year philosophy student. What i wrote in my first post came from my head and not from any book or show. I thought of this ever since i was like 12 years old lol.

But yes, i am not the only person who has thought of something like this.

Capt. 361stMapleTiger.

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Istreliteli
02-24-2004, 09:12 PM
when you shoot at a la7 in fb, ure bullets dont really hit it, the magical vortex on all post 43 VVS aircraft sends bullets flying away, as if repelled by the like side of some magnet. And the engine on the la7 is actually a star trek antimatter reactor.

UShtravnikov odin zakon odin konetz kalir rubi, fashistkaya brayagu,
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Jumoschwanz
02-24-2004, 09:30 PM
That was the movie Animal House. Where the character Pinto is smoking weed at his profs house and he starts blithering about our universe being an atom in some other being.


And then: If you can relearn to use thinking as a tool instead of the mode of being it is for most of the world's population, you will not have any more questions ever again.

For: Would that which is truly alive ask what life is?

And: What is qualified to recognize and distinguish truth and reality except for truth and reality?

Jumoschwanz

Maple_Tiger
02-24-2004, 09:46 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jumoschwanz:
That was the movie Animal House. Where the character Pinto is smoking weed at his profs house and he starts blithering about our universe being an atom in some other being.


And then: If you can relearn to use thinking as a tool instead of the mode of being it is for most of the world's population, you will not have any more questions ever again.

For: Would that which is truly alive ask what life is?

And: What is qualified to recognize and distinguish truth and reality except for truth and reality?

Jumoschwanz<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

For: Would that which is truly alive ask what life is?

Would that be a Human?

And: What is qualified to recognize and distinguish truth and reality except for truth and reality?

Would that be a Human again?


I dont know lol, tell me please lol

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Jettexas
02-24-2004, 09:58 PM
I have spoken to Euripides and he has said...............................

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Jumoschwanz
02-24-2004, 11:11 PM
There is nothing that is not the truth and nothing that is not reality except for that which "thinks" it is anything at all.

Where there is not a thought of what is, there is what actually is.

There is no conflict or suffering outside of the self, outside of thought.


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Dolemite-
02-25-2004, 01:50 AM
I like pizza http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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jobace
02-25-2004, 02:33 AM
donā§'t you just love this forum? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

02-25-2004, 02:50 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Dash_C.:
Perhaps proposing such philosophical questions to a forum of flight-simmers is counterproductive.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Actually, it brings up a very important issue concerning flight sim games. It is an issue which every developer must make a decision on.

Granted, going deeper into the philosophical aspect inevitably brings us to the head busting philosphers of post-modernism and deconstruction principles, but as long as the topic remains solid, it can actually become a very productive discussion.

To put it simply, what is the "reality" we choose to perceive?

When IL2:Sturmovik was first announced, there was this huge discussion and debate concerning the roll rates of the Bf109, which Oleg described as more or less being competent even against Fw190s. (I can't remember the exact details of the debate, but I think it was something like that)

Those troubles quickly became something like a prophecy in the years to come until we reach the days of Forgotten Battles. If a certain set of data does not match other set of data, and we have no way of proving which one is really really "correct", then by what standards do we want to see the planes in the game modelled?

The players, tended to put their standards on the "reality" they came to accept as "real", namely, the data set from Western tests, that they are accustomed to.

The attempts on both sides to discredit the other side's sources have more or less failed, and the situation came to literally, "only way we'll find out is build our own plane and test it ourselves".

However, people, choose 'reality' as they perceive, even when such 'reality' has no tangible basis to go on.

...

Much the same, is the discussions on how FM in FB has been "neutered", compared to IL2. That's also a classic case of how people define their "reality" as something they choose to perceive, regardless whether his version of "reality" is 'really real', or not.

T_O_A_D
02-25-2004, 02:51 AM
http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif And you came here to pose this question http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/crazy.gif Like any of us have the answer. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

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02-25-2004, 04:06 AM
I love stuffed crusts. That cheese is really chewy and stringy.

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RdTimeTheCharm
02-25-2004, 06:55 AM
Everything in nature seems to repeat the same form - sort of like in fractals. Except we atleast think we've found the bottom - smallest possible object that build up the universe.

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LoneVolfen
02-25-2004, 07:25 AM
Technically speaking, were the smallest possible object to make up the universe smaller than a wavelength of light, then it would be impossible for us to observe except under the most extreme conditions. This is due to the fact that our vision depends upon light, and if light is simply too large to reflect off of an object and just "passes by or over" the thing, then to us, it is unobservable. IMHO, given that we have already proven the existence of various "particles" (for lack of a better word) that are smaller than the shortest wavelength of the visible spectrum, there are probably even smaller parts that we will never be able to observe/prove their existence.

In reference to the string theory deal, though I am not exactly familiar with it, the theory would only be truly applicable if we were to live in a universe with a great number of dimensions (maybe 16 or so). Not that this isn't possible, we just are completely incapable of comprehending such dimensions and are currently limited to the 4 (length, width, depth, and time (yes, time is a physical dimension)).

M0NS
02-25-2004, 08:10 AM
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S!

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(Dio Chrysostom "Discourse" 4.77-78)

ElektroFredrik
02-25-2004, 08:48 AM
Why don't cartoon characters like Donald Duck
and the like wear pants? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/blink.gif
Well, to be specific, male characters don't wear
pants, while most female characters do.

Why is it so? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

Other discussion on this topic here:
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ViktorViktor
02-25-2004, 11:29 AM
What is this talk of 'our' view of reality and 'our' solar system ? The only thing that I am sure of is that I exist. Everything else seems to be only input to MY senses. So the proper terms would be 'MY' view of reality and 'MY' solar system, not 'our'. You others seem to exist, but I cannot KNOW this for sure, since I am not you, though I receive indications through MY eyes, ears, etc. that there may be other entities outside of MYSELF. I haven't made up my mind whether everything else in the universe other than MYSELF is really there or is something I'm imagining. And if I'm the only true real object in MY universe, does that me the PRIME MOVER of MY universe? How about giving ME some input to my senses (that is, an answer to MY question.)

And where does MYSELF begin and end, and where does the rest of the universe begin and end ? I used to think that the boundary between myself and the rest of the universe was MY skin, but sensory input to MY eyes (that is, I have read) inform me that on the atomic and even microscopic level there are no clear distinctions between MY atoms and those of the environment around me. They all seem to be floating around mixed together like a giant soup.

Platypus_1.JaVA
02-25-2004, 11:51 AM
http://acompletewasteofspace.com


A perfect place for maple_tiger I think http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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2 For with what judgment ye judge,
ye shall be judged: and with what
measure ye mete, it shall be measured
to you again.

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jenikovtaw
02-25-2004, 12:05 PM
"So then are universe is full of Molecule's. Whats really are universe? An element? What kind of Element?"

An element can not be divided into smaller components. If you say it consists of molecules (granted they are not all of the same element) then a composition of those molecules, by definition can not be an element but a compound...or somethign between those lines

moeity12344
02-25-2004, 12:54 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Maple_Tiger:
Is our view of reality correct?

When we say earth, is earth really just a planet?

What about our solar system? Is it really a solar system?

When we look out side are solar system we can see other solar systems that make up the Milky way galaxy. Is the Milky way galaxy really a galaxy?


What if i told you that we are just living on a(Proton, Neutron or Electron)?

If that is the case then would not are solar system be just an Atom.

So then we have the so called Milky way full of Atoms. Then what is the Milky way? A Molecule?

So then are universe is full of Molecule's. Whats really are universe? An element? What kind of Element?

Are we so insignificant that we are actually just living inside a peas of grass? Or what if we are actually just living inside someone?


Does Maple_Tiger need help?

Capt. 361stMapleTiger.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid78/pd6c878f0006c224805da6c9645408b41/fb291d3e.jpg <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Actually your reasoning is flawed. The so called "solar system" model of an atom which most high school children are taught is completely false. Electrons dont really "orbit" the nucleus in a planet-like configuration. Rather, they form a cloud of probability, where there is a certain chance that the electon will exist at any given point in this cloud at any instant. If you want more information on this, check out a book by John Gribbin - "In Search of Schroedingers Cat: Quantum Physics and Reality"

Basically, the quantum world is so much different from our own that it such a scaling transfer cant apply.

knightflyte
02-25-2004, 02:51 PM
posted 24-02-04 12:10
Hey, what movie is that from? The Graduate? I thought Dustin Hoffman was in it whatever it is. Oh yeah, please pass it on .




I'm sure it's been mentioned but I remember it from Animal house when Donald Sutherland was smoking the wacky tobaccy with the lady from original Indiana Jones movie.........Karen Allen
He had her friend freaking out over a whole universe living under his fingernail.

knightflyte
02-25-2004, 02:53 PM
Pass the deutchie on the left hand side!

Maple_Tiger
02-25-2004, 03:46 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jenikovtaw:
"So then are universe is full of Molecule's. Whats really are universe? An element? What kind of Element?"

An element can not be divided into smaller components. If you say it consists of molecules (granted they are not all of the same element) then a composition of those molecules, by definition can not be an element but a compound...or somethign between those lines<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

An element can not be diivided into smaller components.

Why not? Would not an element contain atoms?

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Maple_Tiger
02-25-2004, 10:41 PM
So if things just keep getting smaller and smaller, would not other things just keep getting biger and biger?

Is there stuff out there that we just cant see or understand simply becasue they are just way too huge?

Capt. 361stMapleTiger.

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[This message was edited by Maple_Tiger on Wed February 25 2004 at 09:53 PM.]

DuxCorvan
02-26-2004, 05:02 AM
Data coming from our sensorial organs -eyes, ears, etc- take some minimal time to reach our brain and be processed. Orders our brain gives to our mobile parts -legs, arms, tongue- and even conscient reaction and abstract thinking take a little time more. We don't live a LIVE life, but a difered one.

This means we act following previous acts we had done yet before we knew we were doing them.

The implications of this are clear: all our acts are predestined, we think we control ourselves, but are only witnesses of what we are doing...

And Maple has reached a kind of revelation. Like the 'Matrix' guy. Now that he has started making questions, he just can't stop. After stablishing a philosophy doctrine, writing a poetry book and creating a new destructive secta, he will probably suicide -or be a witness of his own suicide- and we'll sell our impressions and memories to Hollywood.

Metaphysics is a profitable stuff! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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Maple_Tiger
02-26-2004, 08:35 AM
What, suicide?

are you nuts?

You mean if i kill myself that i will become popular?... Honld on a sec ill get my gun.

Dm, i dont even have gun. Oh well, i guess ill have to live with myselfhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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LuckyBoy1
02-26-2004, 09:28 AM
Please forgive Maple Tiger. After all, it's probably the fault of the council elders for him getting this way. I advised the tribal elders not to let him get at the fungus pot, but they thought anyone that weird had to have a direct pipeline (in Maple Tiger's case, maybe even more than one) to the spirit force. As a result, he got into the peyote and well... this is the result! Now he's left with his syphilitic brain and a raging case of priapysm that his sled dog can only partially relieve. Alone with his favorite sled dog in his mobile home, his thoughts race to and from the infinate as he recieves many frequencies at once!

He wanted me to add to this waste of disc space by adding to this thread. Ok, fair enough. I can join in with the un-reality show if I so choose. When I worked as a paramedic, a mental patient told me, "Oh, it's not that I don't believe in reality, it's just that I choose not to participate"! So, in that spirit, here's a few thoughts (or what I'll try and pass off for thinking!).

Full grown men with a supposedly grounded sense of reality refer to playing a flight simulation game in a particlular way as "full real"! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/crazy.gif They also refer to some settings as "perfect Mode". They'll spend zillions of Zloty's on PC's, yet never drop $25.00 U.S. for a first time or introduction flight lesson at their local airport! So let's not jerk ourselves off here about our collective grip on reality!

First, let's tackle the "what's reality made up of" thing here. The answer is... mostly nothing (kinda like this thread!). If you represented the nucleus of a hydrogen atom as being the size of a tennis ball (something Maple Tiger's sled dog probably holds in her mouth while he's getting his jolly's) the electron orbiting it would be like (my oldtimer's disease keeps me from remembering the exact, representive distance) but like a mile or so away. This is true of all atoms including things as solid as tank armour. Tank armour is composed of mostly nothing! Still, if you crashed your dogsled into the side of a tank, it would bring your body to a sudden stop regardless of where your feeble mind is taking you.

Fractal theory never proposed that it is the smallest building block. It does however suggest it "may be" the basic building block of the "macro" world. Actually, look to DNA to find anything close to insight as far as how God thinks. Atoms are made up of smaller parts and those parts are made up of even smaller parts and so on until you break it down to its basic energy. Then the basic energy can be broken down even further. Then you have to decide where anti-matter and anti-energy fit into this whole mess.

As for me, I could care less! I'd be happy just to get a couple of you freaks out to a "real" airport to try a "real" plane. How real would that plane be? Real enough if you flew it into the side of Maple Tiger's double wide mobile home! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/blink.gif

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NorrisMcWhirter
02-26-2004, 10:32 AM
Hi,

You have clearly had a reality inversion.

We are all actually WW2 pilots who, during blackouts, entertain a world where we have our respective families/work/etc and occasionally fly a sim where it doesn't matter if you die.

In a moment, you will recover (unless you were in a P51, of course, cos you suffer no G effects in those http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif and you will find FW190-A5 pumping lead into the armour plating behind your head moments before his fire moves slightly to the right and takes your wing clean off.

Oh, the joys of reality.

Cheers,
Norris


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Inadaze
02-26-2004, 10:46 AM
"Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is mearly energy condensed through a slow vibration, we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, life is only a dream and we are the imaginations of ourselves." - Bill Hicks, Philosopher and Comedian

Maple Tiger, I must admit I thought the same thing when I learnt about protons and Neutrons at school. I was about 12 and mentioned my theory to a friend. He thought I was mad. ;-)

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DuxCorvan
02-26-2004, 11:11 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I was about 12 and mentioned my theory to a friend. He thought I was mad.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You were. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

DuxCorvan
02-26-2004, 11:19 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by moeity12344:
Electrons dont really "orbit" the nucleus in a planet-like configuration. Rather, they form a cloud of probability, where there is a certain chance that the electon will exist at any given point in this cloud at any instant. If you want more information on this, check out a book by John Gribbin - "In Search of Schroedingers Cat: Quantum Physics and Reality"<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ah, uncertainty Planck/Heidelberg theories... electron can be anywhere at a given moment, or be in a concrete point in an uncertain moment...
this forum is getting so brainy... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/blink.gif

Blame those performance charts! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

NorrisMcWhirter
02-26-2004, 11:47 AM
Hi,

Good old quantum theory...! Theoretically, you should be able to transmit information faster than light (actually, instantaneously) as it is possible to 'connect' the states of two particles so any effect on one causes the 'paired' particle to exhibit the same behaviour. Extrapolate this to two particles at either end of the universe and you should be able to transmit information with no delay.

I read of this some time ago but it seems that it has been debunked more recently.

Quantum money might be with us sooner than you think, however, as it is impossible to counterfeit.

Cheers,
Norris


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Maple_Tiger
02-26-2004, 12:21 PM
I wonder if thoughs two particles your talking about are over modeled?

I mean there has to be some friction along the way that will cause the information to slow down a bit. I can't think right now lol, im tired and im going to have a nap.

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Inadaze
02-26-2004, 12:24 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DuxCorvan:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I was about 12 and mentioned my theory to a friend. He thought I was mad.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You were. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hehe I still am http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/crazy.gif