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Ordingandr
03-07-2017, 05:07 PM
His Shove is supposed to be used as an opener to start combos, yet when you do it why can the victim dodge, guard break and attack before you even get your light attack off?

Apaolo_
03-07-2017, 05:11 PM
Yeah Lawbringer is in a bad spot right now. His only opener can be easily countered unlike others like the headbutt. Little tip, you can shove after a block. Sometimes that catches people off guard.

KotoKuraken
03-07-2017, 06:42 PM
Most Lawbringers I see will parry, then use the bash, then GB, and follow up with a combo or repeat the process. So if your opponent is dodging, you'll probably either want to get a light in first or wait to parry before you use the bash

Jarl.Felix
03-07-2017, 07:43 PM
It's funny that crybaby like you wants their chars to be perfect at everything... :)) Dude, they stated it clear : counter-attacker, disabler. Why would you initiate a fight with a move that can be countered so easily ?

secrecy274
03-07-2017, 08:28 PM
It's funny that crybaby like you wants their chars to be perfect at everything... :)) Dude, they stated it clear : counter-attacker, disabler. Why would you initiate a fight with a move that can be countered so easily ?

Except he has no move to initiate a fight with. Shove works as a way to create a (very small) opening, which is needed against block heavy opponents, like a Warlord or a Conq.

Kharneth88
03-07-2017, 08:43 PM
Except he has no move to initiate a fight with. Shove works as a way to create a (very small) opening, which is needed against block heavy opponents, like a Warlord or a Conq.

He has no attack for initiating a fight because he's not an initiator. But if you need to crack open a turtle you ought to walk up to him really slowly and then guard break him. Guard break him a couple times if he keeps countering it and then go for a long arm.

Apaolo_
03-07-2017, 09:02 PM
It's funny that crybaby like you wants their chars to be perfect at everything... :)) Dude, they stated it clear : counter-attacker, disabler. Why would you initiate a fight with a move that can be countered so easily ?

Clearly you're a pro turtle then. Explain to me how you fight a Conqueror for example who just turtles, shield spam, and light attacks? Long arm you say? Cool that's a free light that does no damage. Guard break you say? Awesome he can just counter GB all day.

How can you be a counter character when the meta is defense....

Kharneth88
03-07-2017, 09:09 PM
Clearly you're a pro turtle then. Explain to me how you fight a Conqueror for example who just turtles, shield spam, and light attacks? Long arm you say? Cool that's a free light that does no damage. Guard break you say? Awesome he can just counter GB all day.

How can you be a counter character when the meta is defense....

If a Conqueror shield bash than just side dodge into a shove and then guard break into a side or top heavy depending on the situation. If he turtles the defense than try a couple guard break attempts after giving him plenty of time to make an attack himself. He'll counter it, yup, that's the intent. After you've rhythmically thrown out 2 or 3 guard breaks make a long arm attempt and smack him while on the ground. You can also go for a heavy feint.

Finally, you can simply respond to his turtle by turtling yourself. It depends on the situation, but most of the time players will eventually give in and make an attack attempt. If you're in a duel against a conqueror who is annoying you with being overly defensive than respond by being overly defensive and aim to either run out the clock and force a tie or cause him to give up defending and make an attack. If you're attacking a base in dominion than just sit by and contest their zone, who cares? They'll lose and you don't need to crack his defense. If you're defending and he's turtling up you can call for help if you need.

Take a look at the situation, especially in Dominion. If your team is winning and/or you have more bases or your allies are having a successful time killing your enemies than you don't need to be in such a rush to kill this guy.