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XyZspineZyX
09-06-2003, 03:54 AM
Not a whine, mind you. But it seems certain planes like the mig and the P39, wont lose speed when landing...I try adjusting prop pitch all over the place, but to no avail...anybody got any tips to share..?

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XyZspineZyX
09-06-2003, 03:54 AM
Not a whine, mind you. But it seems certain planes like the mig and the P39, wont lose speed when landing...I try adjusting prop pitch all over the place, but to no avail...anybody got any tips to share..?

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Message Edited on 09/05/0310:57PM by AIRMIKEY

XyZspineZyX
09-06-2003, 04:09 AM
Try lining up from a good ways out, if needed do a few S turns to lose E and drop your flaps to landing. Also if you need to bring prop pitch to 0% and throttle to 0%. With the patch it takes a much longer approach to slow down.

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XyZspineZyX
09-06-2003, 04:12 AM
Yeah, I've been doing that sort of thing...but, I am actually wondering why they are so much more difficult to slow down versus say the german planes..Again, this is not a whine, I am just wondering if I am doing something wrong with the prop pitch settings perhaps..

Airmikey

ps. thx Shifty..

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Message Edited on 09/05/0311:13PM by AIRMIKEY

XyZspineZyX
09-06-2003, 04:14 AM
Most Russian planes have a constant speed prop (or something along these lines) where the prop pitch/speed can't be changed. This may be one factor, another might be aerodynamics(sp?).

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XyZspineZyX
09-06-2003, 04:17 AM
Even droping pitch to zero makes no differance you just float,I have gotten into the habit of stoping the engine when on final and just gliding in.

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XyZspineZyX
09-06-2003, 04:17 AM
Read the follwing:

http://forums.ubi.com/messages/message_view-topic.asp?name=Olegmaddoxreadyroom&id=zusse

It would be of help.



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XyZspineZyX
09-06-2003, 04:18 AM
What if the tower calls you off? You would be in no posotion to fly away. If that happened you'd better hope your plane weighs more than the other plane landing.../i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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XyZspineZyX
09-06-2003, 04:32 AM
Thx for the link, kweassa!!
Now I can go to bed in peace since I learned something today..

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XyZspineZyX
09-06-2003, 04:42 AM
Pitch? WHY???

Just cut throttle, slow down by doing scissors and then deploy Landing Flaps. Never ever had a problem landing before /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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XyZspineZyX
09-06-2003, 04:51 AM
Actually I noticed that too. I used to use pitch and flaps to slow down but it doesnt seem to work as well now. I am not talking about just landing either. Changing the pitch and dropping flaps should slow you down..it used to but it doesnt now. I am sure the 1.11 will correct that. Since Wags told us that the 1.1 patch was released by mistake I wont sweat it because any of the beta patches was better than this 1.1 patch. It only makes sense that there was a mix up and it was released by accident but my thought is, if it was released by accident then surely they must have the real patch and if so why hasnt it been released yet.
In any case..we all have no choice but to make due with what we have and wait till we get the real patch instead of this pretender.

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XyZspineZyX
09-06-2003, 04:51 AM
Same problems with VVS or Luftwaffe...but the aformentioned scissors and lowering the landing flaps usually does the trick. Idle the throttle and things will be fine.

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XyZspineZyX
09-06-2003, 05:02 AM
these planes SHOULD slow down much faster. i dont know if any of you fly in real life but i do and when you do your multi-engine license you have to do a procedure called the "drag demo". the entire purpose for this is to experience what effect flaps, gear, and a windmilling prop have on your drag. the function of flaps is to be able to pitch downward without gaining airspeed. the gear being deployed has the same effect as an airbrake and also makes the plane more stable (the gears act as rudders). but the thing that causes more drag than both faps and gear combined is the prop windmilling (meaning zero or idle power). if you think about it the prop is a big disk on the front of your plane when its not producing thrust. someone had mentioned a "constant speed prop" as being at a fixed pitch. but it is not....a constant speed prop keeps the same RPM regaurdless of manifold presure by regulating its angle of attack. a fixed pitch prop is what most russian airplanes had and while it doesnt slow as much as a constant speed prop, it still increases drag dramaticly.

the one other thing that is used (very common in taildraggers) is the sideslip. by stomping on the rudder and adding oposite aileron you fly the plane with the side of the fuselage hitting the wind. most aerobatic planes iv flown this is the only way to loose speed because they dont have flaps and the gear is already out. this works very slightly in FB but not to the level it should. im not trying to start trash talk.....but i thought some of you might be interested.

XyZspineZyX
09-06-2003, 05:17 AM
yeah it is very odd, sometimes it even seams like it accelerates even with full flaps and gear. I noticed that the engine sound does not sound throttled down (could easily be wrong.).

What you can do to slow down is apply full right/left rudder and roll a bit so you end up going straight while makeing more drag. I dont know if that was already mentioned cause im too lazy to read everysingle line.

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XyZspineZyX
09-06-2003, 07:46 AM
It helps to open the radiator...

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