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arcadeace
06-09-2004, 06:17 AM
The 12,000 lb "Tall Boy" dropped from 20,000 feet made a 80 feet deep crater 100 feet across and could go through 16 feet of concrete. On 8-9 June, 1944 eight Lancaster bombers attacked the Saumur Rail Tunnel. It proved its worth but at the cost of losing 5 of the 8 bombers on this mission. Eventually 854 Tallboy bombs were used, the most note-worthy mission resulting in the destruction of the battleship Tirpitz (77 were dropped in three attacks).

The "Grand Slam" (Earthquake) bomb was of the same design as the Tallboy but larger and heavier weighing 9,979 kg (22,000 lb). It was first used on 14 March, 1945 when a force of Lancaster bombers attacked the Bielefeld railway viaduct destroying two spans. In another attack against submarine pens (Bunker Valentin) near Bremen two Grand Slams pentrated 4,5 meters of reinforced concrete. 41 Grand Slam Bombs were dropped by the end of the war mainly against bridges and viaducts.

http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/222_1086783296_tallboyandgrandslam.jpg

arcadeace
06-09-2004, 06:17 AM
The 12,000 lb "Tall Boy" dropped from 20,000 feet made a 80 feet deep crater 100 feet across and could go through 16 feet of concrete. On 8-9 June, 1944 eight Lancaster bombers attacked the Saumur Rail Tunnel. It proved its worth but at the cost of losing 5 of the 8 bombers on this mission. Eventually 854 Tallboy bombs were used, the most note-worthy mission resulting in the destruction of the battleship Tirpitz (77 were dropped in three attacks).

The "Grand Slam" (Earthquake) bomb was of the same design as the Tallboy but larger and heavier weighing 9,979 kg (22,000 lb). It was first used on 14 March, 1945 when a force of Lancaster bombers attacked the Bielefeld railway viaduct destroying two spans. In another attack against submarine pens (Bunker Valentin) near Bremen two Grand Slams pentrated 4,5 meters of reinforced concrete. 41 Grand Slam Bombs were dropped by the end of the war mainly against bridges and viaducts.

http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/222_1086783296_tallboyandgrandslam.jpg

T_O_A_D
06-09-2004, 06:19 AM
Thas one big Mutha $%@!*

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Jasko76
06-09-2004, 06:24 AM
Those fell at supersonic speeds, right? Big suckers!

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p1ngu666
06-09-2004, 06:30 AM
yeah http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
was designed to drop at 40,000feet or so, lanc could only get it upto 18-20,000 feet
still deadly
btw that bombing of tunnel, crews MOST disapointed on raid. just red pinpicks.
then the recon photos came in http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/59.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/88.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/784.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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TgD Thunderbolt56
06-09-2004, 06:32 AM
Wow...That's one big-assed bomb!



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WOLFMondo
06-09-2004, 06:41 AM
I think the Grandslam still holds the record of the heaviest conventional weapon used in anger and the lancaster the plane to drop the heaviest conventional weapon. The MOAB is the heaviest but its never been used in anger.

A bigger pic of the Lancaster dropping a Grandslam
http://www.dambusters.org.uk/earthquake.jpg

The Lancaster on show at RAF Hendon had a Grandslam underneath it on static display, not sure if its there anymore but its very impressive.

If you like the Tallboy, check this out:

http://home.aol.com/nukeinfo2/B29withdualTallboyinstallationdetail2.jpg
B29 carrying 2 Tallboys

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Bigsweede
06-09-2004, 06:46 AM
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[This message was edited by Bigsweede on Wed June 09 2004 at 07:59 AM.]

WOLFMondo
06-09-2004, 06:50 AM
Congratulations, you win tasteless joke of the decade award.

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Bigsweede
06-09-2004, 07:16 AM
Well... the taste of **** is'nt anything to joke about..

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Heavy_Weather
06-09-2004, 07:22 AM
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Jasko76
06-09-2004, 07:29 AM
Bigsweede

Do you by any chance vote for "Sverigedemokraterna"? Your crappy joke sounds like something they would say - tasteless.

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Bigsweede
06-09-2004, 07:49 AM
No.. i hate them bastards, but i'm **** not *** off to be politicaly ****, and *** friends with **** bakground had a laugh at this ***** morbid ****** ***** ***** joke.
Have a Nice day, bomb away ! ******

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Cajun76
06-09-2004, 08:00 AM
"The Dam Busters" is a favorite book of mine, and helped spur my interest in WWII and the airwar.

@WOLFMondo, I'm pretty sure that the SuperFortress there is carrying two Grand Slams. Compare the diameter of the bombs to the fuselage and engines, pretty fat for a Tallboy, imo.

@Bigsweede, you might want to add the lack of humour to your specs, mate. That's about as intelligent as a parachute designed to open on impact... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/51.gif

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Bigsweede
06-09-2004, 08:04 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Cajun76:
"The Dam Busters" is a favorite book of mine, and helped spur my interest in WWII and the airwar.

@WOLFMondo, I'm pretty sure that the SuperFortress there is carrying two Grand Slams. Compare the diameter of the bombs to the fuselage and engines, pretty fat for a Tallboy, imo.

@Bigsweede, you might want to add the lack of humour to your specs, mate. That's about as intelligent as a parachute designed to open on impact... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/51.gif

Good hunting,
Cajun76
questions?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

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Monson74
06-09-2004, 08:09 AM
KA-BOOOOM! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

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Cajun76
06-09-2004, 08:12 AM
How about this, since you seem to be in an agreeable mood:

Delete the offensive line, please, and the matter can drop. Just because you or your insensitive friends might find humor in that joke, some old guy with a tattoo on his arm from when he was a child living in he11 might not find it quite hilarious. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

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WOLFMondo
06-09-2004, 08:32 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Cajun76:

@WOLFMondo, I'm pretty sure that the SuperFortress there is carrying two Grand Slams. Compare the diameter of the bombs to the fuselage and engines, pretty fat for a Tallboy, imo.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

There most definatly tallboys in that image, the way the tail leads of is quite short, besides, the image is listed as such. However that configuration is supposed to support 2 grandslams or 2 tallboys. After WW2 they did tests with Lancaster Mk1's and B29's with them. However heres one slung under the bomb bay.

http://home.aol.com/nukeinfo2/wb29GrandSlam.jpg

Check out this site where I got the images. Very interesting reading: http://home.aol.com/nukeinfo2/

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Cajun76
06-09-2004, 08:35 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by WOLFMondo:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Cajun76:

@WOLFMondo, I'm pretty sure that the SuperFortress there is carrying two Grand Slams. Compare the diameter of the bombs to the fuselage and engines, pretty fat for a Tallboy, imo.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

There most definatly tallboys in that image, the way the tail leads of is quite short, besides, the image is listed as such. However that configuration is supposed to support 2 grandslams and after WW2 they did tests with Lancaster Mk1's and B29's with them. However heres one slung under the bomb bay.

http://home.aol.com/nukeinfo2/wb29GrandSlam.jpg

Check out this site where I got the images. Very interesting reading: http://home.aol.com/nukeinfo2/

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Roger that, and thanks for the link. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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John_Stag
06-09-2004, 08:52 AM
Tallboy and Grand Slam were also designed by Barnes Wallace, and were the first options he looked at for busting dams, but the aircraft of the time couldn't even begin to think about carrying them, so he did a bit of lateral thinking and came up with the Bouncing Bomb.

Another piece of trivia; during the war the only Squadron to use Wallace's bombs was 617, the "Dam Busters."

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>:Sergeant! Where are you taking those vultures?

Sergeant: Officers to the mess, NCO's to the Guardroom, Sir!

:Like hell you are, they made this mess, get them to clean it up!

Sergeant: But what about the officers, Sir?

:Give 'em a bloody shovel.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>