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Revelationist
08-10-2004, 02:14 PM
http://revelationist.com/images/4.jpg

Revelationist
08-10-2004, 02:14 PM
http://revelationist.com/images/4.jpg

jetuserX
08-10-2004, 02:22 PM
is this supposed to be a puzzle in itself?

brilers
08-10-2004, 02:23 PM
This is the second piece?

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TheThunder55
08-10-2004, 02:40 PM
it came from www.revelationist.com (http://www.revelationist.com).
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it was origionally rerelationist.com/images/4.jpg, and when you enter a new number, it redirects you to 4.jpg.
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brilers
08-10-2004, 02:42 PM
Yep, and if you take the image address and replace the 4 with any other number between 1 and 9, you get redirected back to 4.

And check out who registered revelationist.com
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>registrant-firstname: Bob
registrant-lastname: Ogoobo
registrant-organization: DRC
registrant-street1: 1 AeGura Place
registrant-pcode: 12345
registrant-state: NM
registrant-city: D'ni
registrant-ccode: US
registrant-phone: +505.1234567
registrant-email: bobogoobo@aol.com<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

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TheThunder55
08-10-2004, 02:44 PM
you must have posted that the same time i edited mine, sorry bout that. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif
i tried dialing the num, nothing
lemme email....
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brilers
08-10-2004, 02:50 PM
No problem.

There's an "X" on the image

If you do /images/A.jpg all the way to Z.jpg you get redirected back to 4.jpg

revelationist.com/x/ is a folder, /images/x/4.jpg puts you back to /images/4.jpg

[Edit]
OK, there's alot of redirects on the site. I haven't been able to get anywhere besides /images/4.jpg though http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

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TheThunder55
08-10-2004, 02:58 PM
theres a revelationist.com/.. and a/...... or something, there are a lot of dots anyway. if you try /images, you get "error 403 forbidden" ive chkd all the source codes, and they're all normal, ill keep working. i have gotten a page that wuz titled "300 multiple choices", enter /images/4.png, or anything similar to something that we already know. oh no, does that mean we have to try something 300 times?

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brilers
08-10-2004, 03:04 PM
the "300 multiple choices" looks like a regular server message - I don't think there's anything important about it.

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TheThunder55
08-10-2004, 03:06 PM
ive never seen it before, and why would it be named "300 multiple choices"? heres the source:
"&lt;!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//IETF//DTD HTML 2.0//EN"&gt;
&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;
&lt;TITLE&gt;300 Multiple Choices&lt;/TITLE&gt;
&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;
&lt;H1&gt;Multiple Choices&lt;/H1&gt;
The document name you requested (&lt;code&gt;/images/4.png&lt;/code&gthttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif could not be found on this server.
However, we found documents with names similar to the one you requested.&lt;p&gt;Available documents:
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="/images/4.jpg"&gt;/images/4.jpg&lt;/a&gt; (common basename)
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;
"

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brilers
08-10-2004, 03:09 PM
300 Multiple Choices is a HTTP status code, like 404 Document Not Found:

http://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc2616-sec10.html

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TheThunder55
08-10-2004, 03:11 PM
ah.

now, there are two pages after revelation.com: /. and /.. , what could these mean?

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matt myat
08-10-2004, 03:11 PM
Yeah, very curious...

Hey there is an X!! (centre right - dark red)

Does the composition of this image look rather similar in to the green screen one (namely being top right - but then again that's where you'd start to reveal any image isn't it) - could they represent one and the same scene?

the X?? what does the X mean???

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brilers
08-10-2004, 03:14 PM
The two images are different sizes, so I didn't see any kind of possibility for an overlay.

There isn't any EXIF data in either image.

Opening the images in a hex editor didn't reveal anything.

Enough work for me, I'm going home, be back soon.

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TheThunder55
08-10-2004, 03:15 PM
did i get it right?

Yes!

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matt myat
08-10-2004, 03:18 PM
yep, nice link thunder... different sizes.. hmmm... that kinda throws out that idea... cya brilers.. actually i have to leave home now to go to work... is this tuesday's piece?? it's already wednesday where i am... keep up the cracking thunder...

one other thing... why image number 4?

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08-10-2004, 03:26 PM
so confusing................

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08-10-2004, 03:27 PM
OK, back on the case ... and still completely baffled.

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matt myat
08-10-2004, 03:28 PM
lol you just broke you link thunder... (maybe leave out the quotes - and i'm not one to to fussy, but could you check the spelling of please please? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif) anyway got to go, keep thinkin on it guys...

TheThunder55
08-10-2004, 03:28 PM
see if hes posted on other forums.....
hey, my email i sent to bob hasnt returned yet, the adress dosent seem invalid.

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brilers
08-10-2004, 03:30 PM
He hadn't when I left work 10 minutes ago, and I've got a list of five or so other forums he's registered at.

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matt myat
08-10-2004, 03:31 PM
very true (yeah, i'll be gone in a minute!) - i don't know if this is obvious but bobogoobo was some sort of element in a riven puzzle or something (searched on google) but nah, that probably doesn't help! - the image looks like the corner of a tent any ideas on what it is?

is that bobogoobo or revelationist?
he seems pretty intense on this mystery (registering a domain etc.)

hmmm... hope you make some progress, good luck

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08-10-2004, 03:33 PM
The image itself looks to be something around Tomahna...

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jetuserX
08-10-2004, 03:40 PM
bobogoobo was something from the to d'ni expansion pack for uru

TheThunder55
08-10-2004, 03:42 PM
the topic is called "the start of something big" could this be a clue?

maybe its a shot of a part of something bigger? from the demo? i dont know, like a click on the x or something?

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jetuserX
08-10-2004, 03:50 PM
i think the x was the hint for the /x directory

TheThunder55
08-10-2004, 03:51 PM
what do we do with the x directory?

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brilers
08-10-2004, 03:52 PM
There is no x/ directory

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TheThunder55
08-10-2004, 03:53 PM
i tried ftp://www.revelationist.com/x and it prompted me for a username and password.

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brilers
08-10-2004, 03:55 PM
You'll get the same prompt if you do ftp://www.revelationist.com/

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TheThunder55
08-10-2004, 03:57 PM
really intresting........
i bet our next clue or the ****ion to todays puzzle is in the ftp folder.

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brilers
08-10-2004, 03:59 PM
I doubt it, it's probably just the standard FTP server - how he uploads the files to his domain - he just has the anonymous account disabled.

[Edit] Dinner time, back in a bit. Good luck http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

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TheThunder55
08-10-2004, 04:00 PM
wait, yeah you're right.

*taps fingers*
what now......what now..........

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jetuserX
08-10-2004, 04:01 PM
heres the brightened pic with the x on it

http://elitesouls.org/brightened.png

TheThunder55
08-10-2004, 04:06 PM
www.elitesouls.org.. (http://www.elitesouls.org..). this is another intresting site, how did you come across the pic?

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brilers
08-10-2004, 04:13 PM
What "pic" are you referring to? And what does elitesouls.org have to do with anything? You've completely confused me http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

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TheThunder55
08-10-2004, 04:14 PM
im talking about what jetuserx posted, the pic came from elitesouls.org.

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jetuserX
08-10-2004, 04:16 PM
yeah its my domain and i just copied it from the site and brightened it up and put it on my site

TheThunder55
08-10-2004, 04:17 PM
oh.
see how easy it is to get us going?
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jetuserX
08-10-2004, 04:21 PM
well im stuck now i cant think of anything hmm if you try anything past x like x/images/ you get redirected to . so.. im guessing the . is a clue itself probably leading to the .. one ...... not sure.. im headed to tae kwon do now so i'll check back in once im back

TheThunder55
08-10-2004, 04:28 PM
no, if you put a . in any url like for example:

http://www.cyanworlds.com/./cgi-bin/ubb-cgi/ultimatebb.cgi

works the same as:

http://www.cyanworlds.com/cgi-bin/ubb-cgi/ultimatebb.cgi

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TheThunder55
08-10-2004, 05:06 PM
i saw this on the giuld of greeters forum:
"We're not quite done yet,
One more trip to take.
Go to where two have met,
Where Jenny talked to Miss Kate."

the topic was "KI"

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brilers
08-10-2004, 05:18 PM
Nice one.

Where has JennyH talked to Kha'tie? A blog? The Lyst?

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TheThunder55
08-10-2004, 05:25 PM
really couldnt tell you.
ive looked and i cant find anything.


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_ Paula _
08-10-2004, 05:48 PM
I think Five Pieces and The Start of Something Big are different puzzles.

Didn't Jenny do an interview with Kha'tie about something?

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TheThunder55
08-10-2004, 05:54 PM
we knew they were different puzzles.

who is jenny?

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_ Paula _
08-10-2004, 06:00 PM
Well, JennyH is one of the Uru forum moderators, but I also vaguely remember her doing an interview with Kha'tie, but for the life of me I can't remember for which web site.

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brilers
08-10-2004, 06:01 PM
You're an angel Paula!

http://mystworlds.ubi.com/us/interview_katieparis.php

leads to

http://mystworlds.ubi.com/us/penguin.php

http://mystworlds.ubi.com/us/images/day.jpg

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TheThunder55
08-10-2004, 06:03 PM
We did it!!
heres the thing so far:

http://members.cox.net/zach88/m4thing.jpg

now to do it again tomorrow.....

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JennyH
08-10-2004, 06:04 PM
She's nice I was going to let y'all suffer and try to find the puzzle on your own. After all it is a scavenger hunt. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/mockface.gif

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TheThunder55
08-10-2004, 06:08 PM
aw come on, you couldnt help us even a little?

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brilers
08-10-2004, 06:48 PM
Revelationist just posted this in the other thread:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Excellent.
Are you enjoying the other
puzzle, as well?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Perhaps we've missed something in this puzzle?

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jetuserX
08-10-2004, 07:58 PM
well of course we probably have.. after all the x has to do with something..

brilers
08-10-2004, 08:17 PM
But are we going to get another update to help us along, or is this all we need to solve this puzzle, or this part of it...

The only thing I can think of is that the X is on an object that we need to name, and that'll be the name of another image or something, maybe the demo will help...
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jetuserX
08-10-2004, 08:22 PM
no the only other explanation i can give is that it has something to do with 10 maybe..

brilers
08-10-2004, 08:32 PM
But you can also do A.jpg through Z.jpg, and any combination of a single letter and a single number together .jpg, they all redirect back to 4.jpg. So I guess we can conclude that the redirects don't mean anything.

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jetuserX
08-10-2004, 08:33 PM
yes.. but 10.jpg doesnt though

brilers
08-10-2004, 08:34 PM
Nor does any other double-digit or double-alpha combination

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Xaxoqual
08-10-2004, 08:35 PM
Hm. New here, so going to take a look at this puzzle thing.

Thoughts: I was thinking that the X might mark a specific co-ordinate on the picture, but I'm not sure: it's a bit big. That, and Revelationist did ask about this puzzle on the other 5 peices thread. But the pictures have a different size (and I don't know if one would gain anything by cropping that square to 285x285)

The rederects on the revelationist.com site are interesting...such as, http://revelationist.com/images/10.jpg doesn't redirect, but 24 (or anything with 4_ or _4) and 1-9 do..what's with that?

Otherwise...I didn't see anything from the demo that matched with that. But I might be missing the obvious!

Anyways, that's it. *waves and junk* Hope it helps atall.

Edit: Is the Bob O'goobo supposed to point us to Uru? Or is that irrelevant?

[This message was edited by Xaxoqual on Tue August 10 2004 at 08:05 PM.]

jetuserX
08-10-2004, 08:36 PM
another thing i noticed that was odd was when i was brighening the pic in ps the x did not show up on the preview

brilers
08-10-2004, 09:28 PM
I don't think that Bob Ogoobo has any significance, but who knows. I'm gonna call it a night on this puzzle and see if anything new turns up tomorrow

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StarScrap
08-10-2004, 10:54 PM
Well, I took a whack at this and all I can say is that pic IS in fact from Tomahna. At least, it has the same types of trees as there are there.

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Elbasunu
08-11-2004, 12:24 AM
I'm going to go check the demo I d/led. Maybe that X is a hotspot in the game. Be back shortly.

Daniel from Atrus Shard.

Elbasunu
08-11-2004, 12:35 AM
Couldn't find a spot like that in the demo...or the Teaser site...or the Live site. Guess my 'hotspot' idea didn't work. I'll think of something else for now...hrrmmm...

Daniel from Atrus Shard.

matt myat
08-11-2004, 05:07 AM
staring and staring and staring doesn't seem to help... it's just not clicking!!

matt begins to think... which is a very unfortunate occurance for anyone happening to stand nearby, whom are deeply advised to ingore the following nonsense...

the X, tomahna, the object under the X? the tube(/chimney?) on the right? - is that in the demo? where? on what? - has the image been released? does The Revelationist have inside information? do we all know him? (him? - it says male on his profile, but it gives us little else)

shadows? night? (day/night/tomahna) the first 5-piece image was called monday.jpg, straight forward enough. Picture 2 - day.jpg - from the last word of the interview, was it specifically chosen? the webpage holding the image - penguin.php??

i don't think the website hosting this image or anything there is part of this puzzle, (though i could be wrong since as of yet the 5p puzzle images have all been on mystworlds) i think the image is the puzzle, and perhaps also the title of this thread - looks like the start of something big - "looks", "start", "something", "big", "of" http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

background - flat.. rock? (duh!) - more shadows, light from what? where? a building?

the object under the X? something big? - a building? tent, dwelling? roof? a creature/animal? (penguins are animals http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif) - then again, as The Revelationist said - this is a puzzle - i might be wrong, but a shot of a single part of a very big animal that we've never seen before doesn't seem to qualify as a puzzle - like the 5p puzzle, the image must somehow point to something - somewhere? a puzzle needs a solution - and in the end.. a reward?

...matt finishes rambling and falls into a deep coma. If not for this fact, he would have prompty apologised for his useless and tediously long gibbering while hoping that perhaps the unfortunate incidence had been of use.

[This message was edited by matt myat on Wed August 11 2004 at 04:18 AM.]

brilers
08-11-2004, 05:12 AM
The title "Looks like the start of something big" reminds me alot of other puzzles over on the UO/MO Boards where we'd often be given a small piece of what ended up being an enormous high-resolution render of a scene from the game.

Is it just me or is this topic no longer showing up on the list of topics in this forum? It shows up under "Last post by" but not on the topic list itself?? Eh?
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matt myat
08-11-2004, 05:25 AM
hey yeah! weird, maybe The Revelationist is messing with it? or maybe it's just me editing posts in utter confusion? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/35.gif

yeah i guess it's part of a bigger picture. The Revelationist did said it was a puzzle, but is it really in the truest sense?? the x is killing me!!

[EDIT: yep it's back in the topics again http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif]

Cierdwyn
08-11-2004, 07:16 AM
Bob O'goobo - was the code used in Uru, in the neighborhood. By pressing the colored buttons, at the walkway overlooking the light garden, in the order they are in the name - you unlocked a surprise.

b - blue
o - orange
g - green

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Revelationist
08-11-2004, 08:32 AM
http://revelationist.com/images/26.jpg

brilers
08-11-2004, 09:08 AM
Oh Boy

[Edit]
Wait, how big are we talking here? Is this gonna end up being a 26-piece puzzle, one piece for each letter of the alphabet? Is that why we have the letters?
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jetuserX
08-11-2004, 10:54 AM
well that one has a d in it let me brighten it up and posty give me a min

jetuserX
08-11-2004, 10:58 AM
here it is

http://elitesouls.org/brightened2.png

brilers
08-11-2004, 11:07 AM
Unless I see reason to do otherwise, I'm gonna assume we just wait for Revelationist to post some more images, and then we go from there.

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jetuserX
08-11-2004, 11:09 AM
well i dont know.. after all the x/d/ is a directory too as is d/x/

Elbasunu
08-11-2004, 11:27 AM
Hmm..and why is it 4.jpg and 26.jpg?

You'd think, if it was corresponding to the letters, that it would be 24, and 4, respectively....

Daniel from Atrus Shard.

jetuserX
08-11-2004, 11:33 AM
it could be and i think D is something in roman numerals too but i could be mistaken.. we wont know unitl we get the next piece

brilers
08-11-2004, 11:57 AM
Hmm, "D" in roman numerals is 500...

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jetuserX
08-11-2004, 12:04 PM
hmm 510 doesnt seem to turn up anything

brilers
08-11-2004, 12:09 PM
It might be that the numbers of the images are a order of sort for the letters on the image - i.e. when we get enough images, the 4th letter of a phrase will be "X", the 26th will be "D"...

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DudeMiester
08-11-2004, 12:11 PM
You know the origional image was 4.JPG, and the 4th letter of the alphabet is D. Must be some connection.

I guess the next image will have the letter Z.

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brilers
08-11-2004, 12:13 PM
So, by that pattern, the letter on the next image will be "Z", and the number of the last image will be 24

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DudeMiester
08-11-2004, 12:22 PM
I guess so. One other interesting thing I noticed, in whatever redirect script he is using. Any number with 4 in it will redirect to 4.jpg, if it doesn't have 4, then if it's first digit is 2 or last digit is 6 is redirects to 26.jpg. So it's also possible that it is a numerical pattern.

Also any number with 26 in it redirects to 26.jpg. But it seems to stop working when you have 4 digits.

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TheThunder55
08-11-2004, 01:30 PM
im back, sleep didnt help.
im still very confused, can you fill me in?

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brilers
08-11-2004, 01:48 PM
Sure http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

We got another image, its filename was 26.jpg and the letter on it was D

That's all http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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TheThunder55
08-11-2004, 01:57 PM
both of these images seem to be on rev's home page. hmmm... i think were going to have to wait for more images to figure this out, hell probably deliver one later today.

i wonder if hes laughing at us is in our ignorance......

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TheThunder55
08-11-2004, 02:18 PM
I got a reply from bob ogoobo!!1!!!111

I asked who he was, and he said:
"Not yet. Soon, I promise. "

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matt myat
08-11-2004, 04:04 PM
hmmm.. another one with another letter - puts a spin on things

the images might just be given random numbers but the pattern you spotted sounds interesting DudeM. how the letters fit together is another matter!

so in fact this is a puzzle in an even more literal sense!

Revelationist seemed to indicated that the first image itself was a puzzle when he asked how we were doing with it, but he (or has she misdirected us?) was probably bemused by our fuss over a single piece of a bigger puzzle!

Xaxoqual
08-11-2004, 07:57 PM
Hm. Does it make a difference that the D has moved? The X was just above the median of the right side. And now the D is in the bottom right corner. Hmmm...

Also, if (BIG IF!) we're going to be solving for the next clue, mabye we should look at ways the previous connects to the current one...(like, for example, 4^2 + 10(X) = 26.) But (26^2 + 500(D) = 1176) doesn't work. So mabye not.

But we can't be sure if we are. We've just got images at this point. There's no actual 'defined problem'....yet. Not like the five piece one.

Well, I'm going to think, but that's all I got for now

Edit: Tangent: Let's go list all the possible entries that give us the "4" image. okay, so we got, a-z..and then 40-49. and then every 2 digit number that has 4 as a second digit (04, 14, etc.) except 44. And then.0, 1, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 9. And then...4 and some a-z, and a-z and some 4..Gives us...*black box land* 104. I think. 26 * 4.(NOTE: Upon reflection, this should be coincidental. 'cuz..the redirect can also include characters other than letters/numbers. IE.. /images/..jpg redirects to 4.)

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Coronagold
08-11-2004, 09:45 PM
I'm thinking of a Julian fractal. Give 3 examples.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/sargem/UU.jpg

brilers
08-11-2004, 10:07 PM
Do you want images?

http://stompstompstomp.com/wsimages/julia.png

http://www.fairyengine.com/screenshots/revenge/julia2_320.jpg

http://www.fairyengine.com/screenshots/revenge/julia_320.jpg

?

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TheThunder55
08-12-2004, 05:11 AM
well, i still feel as if were missing something here. If revelationist sticks to a schedule, we should see a new image sometime today

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08-12-2004, 08:50 AM
http://revelationist.com/images/16.jpg

brilers
08-12-2004, 09:16 AM
http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif The letter is Z! Hmmm.... this one is 16, so the next letter is going to be ... P

Not quite sure what it means yet http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

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TheThunder55
08-12-2004, 10:30 AM
im unclear on something.....
how do you know that the next letter will be p?

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jetuserX
08-12-2004, 10:35 AM
heres the brightened pic

http://elitesouls.org/brightened3.png

brilers
08-12-2004, 10:44 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by TheThunder55:
im unclear on something.....
how do you know that the next letter will be p?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

The first image was 4.jpg, and the letter on the second image was D (4th letter of alphabet), the second image was 26.jpg, and the letter on the third image was "Z" (26th letter of alphabet). The third image is 16.jpg, so the next letter should be "P" (16th letter of alphabet)

[Edit]
Perhaps this is when we'll know we've reached the end of the pieces he's going to give - when he gives us 24.jpg (Since the letter on the first piece was "X")

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TheThunder55
08-12-2004, 12:35 PM
intresting pattern....
this is really beginig to make NO sense to me.
Why is he doing this, i mean?

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jetuserX
08-12-2004, 02:16 PM
well it'll probably be used in the final solution somehow

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08-12-2004, 02:31 PM
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08-12-2004, 02:35 PM
Maybe it'll tie into the Five Pieces puzzle somehow, who knows

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TheThunder55
08-12-2004, 02:38 PM
personally, i think itll end with the 600m demo, these could all be screenshots from the new node, or something...
it sounds like something they'd do to us.

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08-13-2004, 08:32 AM
http://revelationist.com/images/28.jpg

brilers
08-13-2004, 08:40 AM
28.jpg? It's an "M"? Talk about a curve ball...

http://myst.idyastudios.com/images/somethingbig/28.jpg

I wonder if the letter being blue instead of red means anything?

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Cierdwyn
08-13-2004, 08:57 AM
Hmmm ... looks like the house with the smoking chimney in the Tomahna pictures.

brilers
08-13-2004, 09:15 AM
... I think you're right Cierdwyn!

http://myst.idyastudios.com/images/somethingbig/ex1.jpg http://myst.idyastudios.com/images/somethingbig/ex2.jpg


[Edit] OK, did some looking...

It looks to me like we're looking at a high-res version of the picture with Yeesha in it, that's a little wider what-you-see-wise. I can almost place three of the images on that picture:
http://myst.idyastudios.com/images/somethingbig/ex3.jpg

And then for 16.jpg, check out this image:
http://myst.idyastudios.com/images/somethingbig/ex4.jpg
(A cropped version of this HUGE picture (http://mysterium.ch/revelation/pictures/revelation_highres_07.jpg))

If you can imagine "rotating" that image until you were looking at it from the viewpoint of the Yeesha image, I think it's a pretty good match for 16.jpg...

Still not sure how we're supposed to get to the final image yet, though...
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jetuserX
08-13-2004, 10:01 AM
you know its odd all the letters sound the same... so far we have M, P, Z, D

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08-13-2004, 11:07 AM
http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/53.gif

You guys are smart.

TheThunder55
08-13-2004, 11:16 AM
a BLUE M?!

*Rethinks Existance Quietly to Himself*

What do you get if we translate these letters to d'ni?
(no wait, theres no vowels.... even d'ni words have vowels...)

its more of a grey m than a blue m.
MPZD.....
if we do get more vowels, it could be a scrambled word...
BTW: the title of revelationist's page has changed to: "Ok, so there is something here..."

And, i think we can xpect 2 more images with blue letters, on rev's web site, the imgs are arrayed on a 3x2 table, with the 3 red letters on top (X,Z,D) and the blue letter on the bottom (M), so i believe that we can expect 2 more blue letters.

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StarScrap
08-13-2004, 11:05 PM
My only expectation is that anything we expect will be wrong, because there's just not enough information yet.

(Given this post Thunder might actually be right, since I'm expecting our expectations to wrong, so my expectation that the other expectations will be wrong may itself be wrong.
...of course, now that I said that, I have no clue what will happen.)

Can you at least tell us if we have enough information to start solving the puzzle yet Revelationist?

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jetuserX
08-14-2004, 08:01 AM
i doubt s/he'd tell us that.. although the idea of the 3x3 matrix does seem to make sense with what rev said about another contest next week

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08-14-2004, 09:57 AM
http://revelationist.com/images/9.jpg

nmzero
08-14-2004, 10:10 AM
The above is a J

http://www.nmzero.net/myst/9.jpg

It's gone on the bottom row though.


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StarScrap
08-14-2004, 10:38 AM
Looks like that goes diagonally between 4 and 28.

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08-14-2004, 11:02 AM
Yep, I agree StarScrap

http://myst.idyastudios.com/images/somethingbig/28-9-4.jpg

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TheThunder55
08-14-2004, 11:06 AM
this is making less and less sense.

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Dalboz of Gurth
08-14-2004, 02:04 PM
hey, I just saw this today so I'm not following this whole thing... I haven't read everything here either... but has enyone got any idea why the "M" is the only blue/grey letter?

kidcorporeal
08-14-2004, 02:22 PM
This is so strange.

jetuserX
08-14-2004, 03:12 PM
i was thinking along the lines of a magic square

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08-14-2004, 03:44 PM
I am totally stumped on this one, is there another pattern in the letters?

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jetuserX
08-14-2004, 04:07 PM
well what a magic square is that all numbers in a row/colum/diagnal has to be equal and im guessing the extra rule in this one is the number must be the next letter with the exception of the last box

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nmzero
08-14-2004, 04:32 PM
This is most confusing. Part of me wants to disregard the fact that the M is blue, perhaps because the background behind the letter is a lighter color. It's plausible the red would have stood out more.


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jetuserX
08-14-2004, 06:37 PM
yeah i was guessing that it might not have anything to do with it maybe just to make it blend more.. we'll see with the next pic

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08-14-2004, 07:45 PM
yes, we might only be able to figure it out after they are all released.

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jetuserX
08-15-2004, 02:22 PM
i want today's piece already

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08-15-2004, 03:07 PM
http://revelationist.com/images/7.jpg

jetuserX
08-15-2004, 03:13 PM
pic number is 7 and the letter is g

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daffy29
08-15-2004, 04:41 PM
Forgive my intrusion into this thread...I saw something on Revelation's site that has me curious, although likely one of you can explain...

http://revelationist.com/images/
Leads to
"error 403: Forbidden!
The server understood the request, but is refusing to fulfill it. Authorization will not help and the request SHOULD NOT be repeated. "

Is this a usual wording for an error message? The SHOULD NOT seems to me to be an invitation????

TheThunder55
08-15-2004, 04:49 PM
yes, daffy, it is a usual message.
now this time its a grey g.
i dont think weve seen any vowels yet, could that mean something?

heres a list of the numbers compared to the letters:

<UL TYPE=SQUARE>
<LI>4 - X
<LI>26 - D
<LI>16 - Z
<LI>28 - M
<LI>9 - J
<LI>7 - G
[/list]

I can sense a pattern here somewhere.....

on a side note, /images/.. gives you a page that looks like the home page.

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nmzero
08-15-2004, 05:21 PM
Those last two letters interest me.

J is the 10th letter of the alphabet, yet the image file is 9.jpg, but G is the 7th letter, and it's named 7.jpg.

There's something here we aren't seeing.


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TheThunder55
08-15-2004, 05:53 PM
could this have anything to do with the d'ni alphabet or the d'ni numerical sys.?

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jetuserX
08-15-2004, 07:36 PM
no if i remember right d'ni is base 27 so .. that cant be right

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TheThunder55
08-15-2004, 07:55 PM
then what are we missing? there arent any connections here.

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StarScrap
08-15-2004, 10:23 PM
That error message is made custom by Revelationist. He hosted the image at least on his site.

http://revelationist.com/spicons/forbidden.jpg

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StarScrap
08-15-2004, 10:24 PM
Also intersting to note that Revelationist doesn't have the "G" pic visible on the main page of his site yet.

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jetuserX
08-15-2004, 10:48 PM
he probably just hasnt gotten around to it yet

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DudeMiester
08-15-2004, 11:45 PM
Maybe if you took all the pictures we have now, and arraged them together in an overall image where they would most likely be positioned you would see the pattern better.

Someone mentioned a magic squares idea. I think the letter placement has something to do with it as well.

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matt myat
08-16-2004, 03:51 AM
i'm sure the final image will be very easy to put together, so i think the puzzle will present itself is in the final configuration of the letters, and - in order to necessitate use of all pieces - perhaps involving the numbers also.

since there will probably be only around 9 to 16 images/letters, there are no vowels (as of yet), and these are unusually uncommon letters (X, Z, J) i think the solution might require some thought - unless it's: email me at xzdjlmbg@aol.com http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

TheThunder55
08-16-2004, 05:52 AM
well, the source code to the page only shows a table with two rows and three colums, so i dont know if well see anything else, or it could be that he hasnt added another row today.
btw: the G image still hasnt been added yet, i wonder why?

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08-16-2004, 06:26 AM
If I may contribute?

The letters so far have been red and blue, and Myst IV deals heavily with Sirrus and Achenar, imprisoned within the red and blue books. Perhaps the red letters will deal with Sirrus' age and the blue will lead to Achenar's age?

Also, "the start of something big" may refer to the "big" 600 Mb demo?

'Course, both of these are probably pretty obvious to you all. I don't really get what's going on here, but the puzzle seems impossibly obscure and involves a lot of hacking and such. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

TheThunder55
08-16-2004, 07:39 AM
so far, it hasnt involved any hacking, just a little skill with the net. we're looking foward to revelationist's next post, witch will hopefully provide us with more information.

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08-16-2004, 08:10 AM
http://revelationist.com/images/21.jpg

earthinvasion
08-16-2004, 08:57 AM
number 21 and E.

e is in the middle right part of the pic

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jetuserX
08-16-2004, 09:08 AM
looks like we finally got that vowel and also the pics have been put up on rev's site

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BlackHole7
08-16-2004, 09:14 AM
We finally have a fit!
Todays pic fits directly above pic16 (the one with the Z)
Also now that we are starting to get vowels there is a posiblity that once the pic is complete the letters will spell something

TheThunder55
08-16-2004, 09:41 AM
they do seem to fit, and i bet with another pic, M will fit with G, it also looks a little like the M/G group will fit with the e/z group.

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jetuserX
08-17-2004, 08:22 AM
i wonder what we'll get for this one today

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08-17-2004, 09:53 AM
http://revelationist.com/images/20.jpg

L-lee
08-17-2004, 10:28 AM
<UL TYPE=SQUARE><LI>4 - X
<LI>26 - D
<LI>16 - Z
<LI>28 - M
<LI>9 - J
<LI>7 - G
<LI>20 - D[/list]

Curious... Is it customary to have two numbers assigned to the same letter?

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brilers
08-17-2004, 10:40 AM
I guess it is L-lee

Here's how I think it all fits together so far:

http://myst.idyastudios.com/images/somethingbig/progress8.jpg

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jetuserX
08-17-2004, 10:46 AM
no actually its not typical to do that.. we'll have to see what curveball he gives us next

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TheThunder55
08-17-2004, 12:37 PM
hmm, brylers, i dont think you got the Ds in the right place, at least not the one on the right, it dosent look right.

so, how are we going to get a demo out of this? is it going to be something like last week's five peices puzzle? or will the letters spell out a url once they have all been put together?

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08-17-2004, 12:42 PM
Yep, I think you're right Thunder - the "D" on the right should be one square down at least.
[Edit: And maybe the left one, too...]

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jetuserX
08-18-2004, 08:30 AM
i wonder what we get for today

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08-18-2004, 08:51 AM
http://revelationist.com/images/12.jpg

wosborne2002
08-18-2004, 09:02 AM
Hmm, It looks like our next letter is a Q So now we have:

<pre class="ip-ubbcode-code-pre">
4 -&gt; X
26 -&gt; D
16 -&gt; Z
28 -&gt; M
9 -&gt; J
7 -&gt; G
20 -&gt; D
12 -&gt; Q
</pre>

I still can't find any pattern here. Anyone else have any new ideas?

BlackHole7
08-18-2004, 09:14 AM
Todays piece seems to fit one to the right and one above pic 9(red J)

Dalboz of Gurth
08-18-2004, 11:21 AM
one thing I noticed, maybe it's not important, regarding the red and blue letters:

R R R
b R b
b R b

The red letters form a "T"...
Yeah, ok, maybe it's really nothing... although it's just something to maybe keep in mind... I think there was something about a green T on the other puzzle (the one with the backstage pic of atrus). Are the puzzles maybe related somehow?...

TheThunder55
08-18-2004, 02:38 PM
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08-19-2004, 08:22 AM
http://revelationist.com/images/10.jpg

JSteele1234
08-19-2004, 08:25 AM
Hmm, a bluey 'L'...

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TheTian
08-19-2004, 12:46 PM
Does this one go to the left of the pix assembled on Brilers' site? One square down, maybe?

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TheTian
08-19-2004, 12:47 PM
hmmm...does this one maybe go to the left of the pix assembled on Brilers' site, maybe one square down???

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J5892
08-19-2004, 10:28 PM
This is the picture so far:
picture so far (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v28/J5892/prog.jpg)

There's obviously a pattern with the colors.
There are probably more rows or columns.

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jetuserX
08-20-2004, 07:19 AM
hmm revelationist posted this in his source code for his site
&lt;p&gt;&lt;!-- Quick clue- we're about a third of the way there. --&gt; &lt;/p&gt;

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TheThunder55
08-20-2004, 07:33 AM
wow, i see what u mean, jetuser, we have a LONG way to go. (think of how big this thread will be! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif )

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jetuserX
08-20-2004, 07:36 AM
hmm.. lets try to make it the longest thread in all of ubi

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08-20-2004, 08:26 AM
http://revelationist.com/images/30.jpg

AFGNCAAP
08-20-2004, 08:29 AM
Blue R, #30

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jetuserX
08-20-2004, 08:29 AM
jeez where is it .. its so dark

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Dalboz of Gurth
08-20-2004, 10:27 AM
Since he said we were one third through when he posted the 10th pic, would that mean that it's actualy 5 by 6 (or 6 by 5)?

I can't seem to find out where this last one would fit... maybe in a sixth row or collumn (sp?)?

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TheThunder55
08-20-2004, 11:32 AM
it would make more sense if it was another column, all of the screenshots released from m4 were rectangular so far.

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08-20-2004, 05:51 PM
I think it's 5 wide by 6 high the new peice looks like it's the bottom of the control with the edge of the platform your standing on looking across at the hut. the shadow on it is from the railing.

reference this image Tomhana (http://mysterium.ch/revelation/pictures/revelation_highres_07.jpg) in this picture you are standing on the platform on the right hand side looking across to the hut on the left.

Dalboz of Gurth
08-20-2004, 06:22 PM
Yeah, that's probably it. I was thinking the vertical bar was part of the lamp post, but I guess it's the railing... Good call!

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08-20-2004, 10:21 PM
Hey now we've got AFGNCAAP and Dalboz... Dalboz of Gurth.
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00100487 on Guild of Greeters

MTigerV
08-21-2004, 02:23 AM
anyone try to match the pieces with a print screen shot from the demo? might be worth a shot

GEAUX TIGERS!

MTigerV
08-21-2004, 03:03 AM
looked on ubi's site. i think i found the building but the picture isnt much help
cant post a direct link it's a flash site
www.mystrevelation.com (http://www.mystrevelation.com)
to get to it from tomahna start go forward one click then click the trees to the left of the building
in the shot its the building just behind atrus's head
hope this helps

GEAUX TIGERS!

Revelationist
08-21-2004, 06:55 AM
http://revelationist.com/images/22.jpg

AFGNCAAP
08-21-2004, 07:55 AM
Blue S, 22

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08-21-2004, 09:04 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Eat_My_Shortz:
Hey now we've got AFGNCAAP and Dalboz... Dalboz of Gurth.
Can I be Antharia Jack?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I want to be the flickering torch!

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Dalboz of Gurth
08-21-2004, 11:39 AM
Wow, I didn't know there were so many zorkers!!! Sometimes I used to use "AFGNCAAP", but I guess I was too late here... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif, first I though Yoruk, but it wasn't available... Anyway, then I though about Dalboz... (oh man, thanks alot, guys, now I feel like playing The Grand Inquisitor....) http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/53.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/88.gif
"Who is the boss of you? Me I am the boss of you!"
OK, back on topic, I think this "S" goes to the right of the "J", right? But that would meen that the "D" and the "X" would have to go down, as someone said already...

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highwaykind
08-21-2004, 12:13 PM
Blue S 22 fits under blue Q 12 un top right corner ?

Zane_Black04
08-21-2004, 12:36 PM
Here's my take on it....Just my two cents...http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v403/Zane_Black/Something%20Big%20Puzzle/5x6.jpg

JDistheone
08-21-2004, 12:40 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by highwaykind:
Blue S 22 fits under blue Q 12 un top right corner ?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I agree, I had Q-12 in that spot, but it has to be the top corner photo now.

Oh, btw...first post here...long time lurker on the boards..I still have my cd-rom for Myst on Win 3.1.

Dalboz of Gurth
08-21-2004, 01:00 PM
Yeah, yeah, that's it...! I was thinking of bringing the X and the D down instead of putting the Q up! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/35.gif
And the R looks kinda good down there... We'll have to wait for the pic right above to be sure, I guess...

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Oscar Wilde

Zane_Black04
08-21-2004, 04:33 PM
So are we in agreement that the pic is five across and six down (5 x 6)?

TheThunder55
08-21-2004, 08:01 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Oh, btw...first post here...long time lurker on the boards..I still have my cd-rom for Myst on Win 3.1. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Welcome!

And can we start to assemble some kind of sentance?

Update:
Here-
_L__Q
G_M_S
E__J_
Z___X
_D_D_
____R

I bet that second line is "GaMeS"

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Dalboz of Gurth
08-21-2004, 08:16 PM
Do you think we'll have to change the letters, like in the Grid puzzle? At least change some order... What word ends in Q? Or X?

Maybe the blue letters will make one message and the red ones another...

Until now Revelationist has only given us these images, right? I mean, no other clues or anything...

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Oscar Wilde

brilers
08-21-2004, 08:17 PM
I'm not sure - if they form words like that then I don't know of any english word that ends in "Q", besides "Iraq", and I don't think Iraq has anything to do with the puzzle http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

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Zane_Black04
08-21-2004, 08:49 PM
Okay me again, and I've got more pretty pictures i've made to share with everyone! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Just Clicky Here (http://photobucket.com/albums/v403/Zane_Black/Something%20Big%20Puzzle/)

Okay now the Grid one is a 5 x 6 grid based on what I think the puzzle looks like so far. In each box there are four items. The number in the little box in the corner is the order that piece was released. The number on top in a box is the number that was the name of the piece. The color is...well the color the letter is, and the letter is...well what letter there was.

The list is pretty self explanatory...I think.

And the last one is the picture that I have assembled so far.

Feel free to use these, and I hope we can figure out what this puzzle means!

matt myat
08-21-2004, 09:00 PM
[Edit - nice diagrams Zane, helps a lot - it's hard to juggle all this in your head!]

the lines would probably run on into one sentence so for example q and x wouldn't nessessarily be at the end of words. of course the q,z,j and x on their own are pretty rare letters - more of ceaser's?

[This message was edited by matt myat on Sat August 21 2004 at 08:17 PM.]

Dalboz of Gurth
08-21-2004, 09:09 PM
Yeah, I kinda "doubt" these letters are part of the message... as they are... But do you think there would be two puzzles with Ceaser? maybe... but in that case it will probably not be +1. Maybe its something else... like Atbash... (where A=Z, B=Y, C=X, ...)

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"Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes."
Oscar Wilde

Revelationist
08-21-2004, 09:21 PM
Very good, Zane.
You're off by only one image.
Nice job.

matt myat
08-21-2004, 09:29 PM
[Edit - hey Revelationist!]

we now we know the level of trickery Revelationist [oh, hello! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif] is cabable of, i don't think its going to be that easy.

not sure about the colours but i think the numbers hold a key - hang on - what if the numbers were offsets? hmm.. so for example moving forwards we get something like:

_V__C
N_O_O
Z__S_
P___B
_D_X_
____V

of course it may require moving backwards and this was done rather quickly (thanks to Zane's diagrams) so a couple may be off - but the letters look reasonably plausable despite the odd Z and X, and we have two 0's - as in bobogoobo perhaps?

Zane_Black04
08-21-2004, 09:31 PM
Oooh a complement from Revelationist...*feels special* Now if only I could figure out which one it is.....To Photoshop again! I shall return shortly with some reasonable pics.

Dalboz of Gurth
08-21-2004, 09:34 PM
One image? Cool! If I had to guess, I'd say it's the R. I think it goes two squares to the left. The vertical bar is part of the thing that looks like a parking meater (I don't know what it is, kind of a control pannel, maybe?)... It's in that high-res pic... You can see the top of it in the right hand corner on image 26 (D).

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"Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes."
Oscar Wilde

Zane_Black04
08-21-2004, 09:40 PM
Here is the pic based on Dalboz's suggestion

Clicky Clicky (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v403/Zane_Black/Something%20Big%20Puzzle/5x6-1.jpg)

TheThunder55
08-21-2004, 10:00 PM
hmmm, i think i am confused...

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Dalboz of Gurth
08-21-2004, 10:11 PM
Great, Zane! I think it looks good. Although the pic right on top would help us be sure...
Interesting idea, matt, but maybe a few more images would help...
Oh, and one more thing I realized, (it might be nothing...): the red letters kind of form a "mirrored" (left to right) pattern, if the letter to the right of E is also red... all the other letters are blue (for now, of corse...). Maybe the answer has something to do with looking at one side and then finding the corresponding letter on the other... or something like that... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/crazy.gif Specialy because the two bottom red letters that "correspond" are D... who knows...

(sigh) Ok, big post, crazy idea, ... sorry. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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"Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes."
Oscar Wilde

Zane_Black04
08-21-2004, 10:23 PM
Aha I have an idea! I shall return with my findings in a half hour! Hopefully, it shall be good!

[Edit] Okay I am back and have my findings. I went into the Myst IV Demo to do a bit of investigating. I can see where the picture was taken...but can't get to where it was taken.

This is the closest shot you can get from the demo (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v403/Zane_Black/Something%20Big%20Puzzle/NightPic.bmp)

If you turn to the right from there, you can see from where the shot was taken.

Views of picture taken (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v403/Zane_Black/Something%20Big%20Puzzle/Views.bmp)

The red line shows where you can stand to take the picture, and the blue line shows the view as if you were standing there. Now from that view you can see the the railing and the lightpost would be in the shot, with the mountains behind it. This leads me to believe that the piece Dalboz suggested to move, stays where I had originally placed it. Now this is just my opinion, and please please feel free to challeng me on it.

[Edit Edit] I think the piece that is out of order is D...where it goes, I have no clue...YET! Revelationist, help!!!

[This message was edited by Zane_Black04 on Sat August 21 2004 at 10:14 PM.]

[This message was edited by Zane_Black04 on Sat August 21 2004 at 10:27 PM.]

matt myat
08-22-2004, 12:06 AM
yeah that looks like the spot the shots taken from.

i'm confused as to what's a chimney or a lampost http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/53.gif

but i don't think R sits in the corner because the ah - tube - stops in D - unless that's in the wrong place? but in x the tube seems to be achored to something almost aligning with the parking-meter in D, and i just noticed that if you follow the line of the tube from X to R they definitely don't match up.

[This message was edited by matt myat on Sat August 21 2004 at 11:14 PM.]

JDistheone
08-22-2004, 12:35 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I think the piece that is out of order is D...where it goes, I have no clue...YET! Revelationist, help!!!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Zane you've done a fantastic job here!

I agree that D-26 seems out of order. In fact I can't get the angle to see where it goes.

It would be too easy just to get all the photos and just spell something out. There is a cryptogram here....

highwaykind
08-22-2004, 01:53 AM
How about the bottom blue R being out of place ?
Look at the shadow and the light part seems to be some path/board you would walk on ?
My image so far (http://www.bennink.info/foto/sofar.jpg)

Dalboz of Gurth
08-22-2004, 06:39 AM
But do you guys think the "bar" in R is part of the lightpost somehow or part of the railing on the right side... Man I hope the next image fits in between the two Ds...

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"Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes."
Oscar Wilde

Zane_Black04
08-22-2004, 09:59 AM
Ok i'm back with more pretty pictures. Let's start with the Exhibits.

Exhibit A - (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v403/Zane_Black/Something%20Big%20Puzzle/Views.bmp)

In this picture i've boxed an area in with green. You can see that the bar on the balcony does not circle all the way around, at least that's what it looks like to me. So this leads me to believe that red D goes here (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v403/Zane_Black/Something%20Big%20Puzzle/5x6-2.jpg)

Now this is just the ramblings of an overthinking individual. The only way to know where it goes is when Revelationists posts a nice pretty picture for us, which should be sometime soon.

MTigerV
08-22-2004, 10:10 AM
hey zane have you looked on the offical site mystrevelation.com when you complete all the mini games it takes you to the balcony of the building we are trying to see in the picture! cant seem to get a picture for the post (curse those over-interactice Flash sites!)

great work btw (your a photo shop junkie huh? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

GEAUX TIGERS!

Dalboz of Gurth
08-22-2004, 10:12 AM
But looking at the picture (maybe that daytime high res pic, is better for this...) we can see that the lightpost base tiuches the platform just a little bit bellow the D 20 pic... I don't know about the other D pic, but I think that R doesn't go there, otherwise the lightpost base would be too long...
Well, anyway, I tend to think it's like that other one you posted before. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
By the way, great pics you've been posting! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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Oscar Wilde

Zane_Black04
08-22-2004, 10:28 AM
Okay I got two shots of the Kitchen on the myst site...

Kitchen 1 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v403/Zane_Black/Something%20Big%20Puzzle/Kitchen-1.jpg)

Kitchen 2 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v403/Zane_Black/Something%20Big%20Puzzle/Kitchen-2.jpg)

Best I can do.

Dalboz of Gurth
08-22-2004, 10:40 AM
Great shots! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif They'll really help us when we get some pieces from the middle. It's a shame it can't turn more in order to see over to the other platform...

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"Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes."
Oscar Wilde

Zane_Black04
08-22-2004, 10:52 AM
Yeah now only if SOMEONE could be posting a pic right now....*taps watch*

Revelationist
08-22-2004, 11:11 AM
http://revelationist.com/images/19.jpg

Dalboz of Gurth
08-22-2004, 11:21 AM
W 19... another blue one... I'm thinking lefthand bottom corner. It fits in fine with the railing.

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"Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes."
Oscar Wilde

[This message was edited by Dalboz of Gurth on Sun August 22 2004 at 10:33 AM.]

[This message was edited by Dalboz of Gurth on Sun August 22 2004 at 10:35 AM.]

Zane_Black04
08-22-2004, 11:27 AM
Okay back with updated page

Here is the puzzle so far... (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v403/Zane_Black/Something%20Big%20Puzzle/5x6.jpg)

And here (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v403/Zane_Black/Something%20Big%20Puzzle/List.bmp) is the new list. The grid will be up in a little while.

highwaykind
08-22-2004, 11:32 AM
bottom left corner.

Image so far (http://www.bennink.info/foto/sofar.jpg)

Thinking out loud - isn't the fireplace grid 5x6 ?? ( new harddrive, no demo..)

Dalboz of Gurth
08-22-2004, 11:37 AM
Sorry, guys, I HATE to be insistant http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif, but I was thinking something like this (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v462/dalboz/somethingbig.jpg)

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Oscar Wilde

TheThunder55
08-22-2004, 11:38 AM
We have some 17 days left if i'm right, thats like the first week in september.

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highwaykind
08-22-2004, 12:04 PM
Dalboz - I don't think the blue R in the bottom row can be there since there's no grey part of a pole ( probably ) in the red D to the left of it ? Guess we;ll have to wait for another pic to prove me wrong http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Zane_Black04
08-22-2004, 12:14 PM
Ok I played around with the image I think is in the wrong place, and there is only one place it could go! So if that IS indeed the wrong picture in my first one, then this is the correct one...But if that piece was right, well then this is totally wrong....

Clickity Click Click (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v403/Zane_Black/Something%20Big%20Puzzle/5x6maybe.jpg)

[Edit] To try to further my point of hoping i'm right, if you look at the red D in the second line, near the bottom right corner of it, there is a shadow in a circle, in the Red D in the bottom line, there's a shaodwy circle in the upper left corner. Am I seeing things or is this there? Someone please help my brain out!

P.S. Revelationist, a clue if I'm on the right path please? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

JDistheone
08-22-2004, 12:25 PM
But Zane isn't the column attaching to a base at the bottom of 4-X? Isn't that why you had 20-D there to begin with?

So the column on the left in 30-R is attached to the balcony across the way(looking at it from your green area)?

Zane_Black04
08-22-2004, 12:34 PM
I....dont' know anymore...I'm just gonna keep fiddling around and trying to make myself think i'm right. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif But here is a new grid i'm sure we can all agree on.

You know you wanna click it (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v403/Zane_Black/Something%20Big%20Puzzle/Grid.jpg)

JDistheone
08-22-2004, 12:35 PM
[QUOTE]Edit] To try to further my point of hoping i'm right, if you look at the red D in the second line, near the bottom right corner of it, there is a shadow in a circle, in the Red D in the bottom line, there's a shaodwy circle in the upper left corner. Am I seeing things or is this there? Someone please help my brain out!

I see the circle in 26-D, but not in the other one, but the circle continues to the right, not down and to the right.

Dalboz of Gurth
08-22-2004, 01:00 PM
Ok, I made this pic: pic (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v462/dalboz/pic.jpg)

Ok, first of all, notice the three control panel things. Then notice that the bottom one on the second image is the same thing as the one one the platform from where the picture was taken... Ok, I don't have to explain the rest... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Look at the two green circles. That's why I think there should be a poll a bit to the right of this piece...

Anyway I think the lightpost's base has to be in that area... so I think that D (20) is in the right place...

I hope I could at least convince you all that I'm not THAT crazzy!! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/53.gif

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Oscar Wilde

[This message was edited by Dalboz of Gurth on Sun August 22 2004 at 12:15 PM.]

brilers
08-22-2004, 01:02 PM
Dunno if it'll help much, but here's a link to my thoughts of what the picture is 6 pages back:

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?a=tpc&s=400102&f=311106333&m=845107795&r=786103306#786103306


And this is what I think the puzzle is so far:

http://myst.idyastudios.com/images/somethingbig/progress13.png

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[This message was edited by brilers on Sun August 22 2004 at 12:42 PM.]

JDistheone
08-22-2004, 01:32 PM
I think you got it brilers. I had forgotten about your image nailing where 26-D is...so 30-R has to be bottom middle.

MTigerV
08-22-2004, 02:00 PM
i am starting to get confused. can someone explain ,in detail, what the numbers on Zane's grid mean? i dont feel like searching through the posts and maybe reviewing it will give us some new ideas.
please! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

GEAUX TIGERS!

Zane_Black04
08-22-2004, 02:04 PM
Pick a box any box. The number in the corner box is the other that piece was released. The number on the top of the three is the name of the pic. The color is the color of the letter. And the letter is...well the letter.

MTigerV
08-22-2004, 02:21 PM
Thanks alot photo shop king http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/11.gif

GEAUX TIGERS!

Zane_Black04
08-22-2004, 02:25 PM
No prob, now back to the puzzle. I hate to say it....but I was wrong. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/cry.gif Oh well. So we can agree that this (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v403/Zane_Black/Something%20Big%20Puzzle/5x6.jpg)is the puzzle so far?

[Edit] [Edit] Whoopsy made a mistake. Forget that one and new and improved will be shortly.

[Edit] Okay finally got it. Here is the brand new and improved grid! Right Here (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v403/Zane_Black/Something%20Big%20Puzzle/Grid.jpg)

And just in case anyone wants to print one out to keep on hand, here's a blank one Click Click (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v403/Zane_Black/Something%20Big%20Puzzle/GridBlank.jpg)

[Edit] Last time I PROMISE! Here is the updated list.

Click Clack Clock (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v403/Zane_Black/Something%20Big%20Puzzle/List.jpg)

[This message was edited by Zane_Black04 on Sun August 22 2004 at 03:05 PM.]

[This message was edited by Zane_Black04 on Sun August 22 2004 at 03:34 PM.]

Revelationist
08-22-2004, 05:19 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Zane_Black04:
[Edit] Okay finally got it. Here is the brand new and improved grid! Right here (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v403/Zane_Black/Something%20Big%20Puzzle/Grid.jpg) <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Perfect!

Zane_Black04
08-22-2004, 06:06 PM
Yay! So we finally know what it is and how it goes! Now only if we knew what to do with them....

Dalboz of Gurth
08-22-2004, 06:46 PM
We've got 17 more pieces to go. 17 more days to wait!! I wonder if we can already start having an idea about the message (if it is actually a message), or if we have to wait a bit more to get more pieces...

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"Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes."
Oscar Wilde

MTigerV
08-22-2004, 09:19 PM
i know its off topic but im trying to spread the word to get a U.S. version of the CE

"i have an idea lets do what every P.O.'ed fan group does. send enormus amounts of email that beg, plead, and threaten the Ubi staff until they give in, its worked on other industries (how you get new cable channels) so why no here?
just a suggestion http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/59.gif "

spread the word

GEAUX TIGERS!

highwaykind
08-23-2004, 01:27 AM
Zane - you rule http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
I kindly stole you pic and added some colour to it, hope you don't mind but I think it's a quicker overview this way :
http://www.bennink.info/foto/mystgrid.jpg

TheThunder55
08-23-2004, 05:06 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> i know its off topic but im trying to spread the word to get a U.S. version of the CE

"i have an idea lets do what every P.O.'ed fan group does. send enormus amounts of email that beg, plead, and threaten the Ubi staff until they give in, its worked on other industries (how you get new cable channels) so why no here?
just a suggestion "

spread the word
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I think we did that with URU ABM, when it wouldnt work on intel chipsets, and they gave us Complete chronicles, and it works great on intels! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/59.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/59.gif

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08-23-2004, 08:10 AM
http://revelationist.com/images/13.jpg

brilers
08-23-2004, 08:27 AM
Blue "O", goes southeast of 20.jpg (Red "D").

http://myst.idyastudios.com/images/somethingbig/progress14.png

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highwaykind
08-23-2004, 08:40 AM
Thanks brilers - and boy does your screen differ from mine ( mine's a lot darker !). funny http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

brilers
08-23-2004, 08:46 AM
I tweaked the images a bit to brighten things up some http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

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Zane_Black04
08-23-2004, 10:53 AM
Ookay the Grid, List, and Puzzle are updated.

Here! (http://photobucket.com/albums/v403/Zane_Black/Something%20Big%20Puzzle/?multi=3&addtype=)

Highwaykind: I do not mind at all! In fact, I was going to do that when I had a chance.

*goes to work on color grid*

Revelationist
08-24-2004, 08:43 AM
http://revelationist.com/images/3.jpg

Zane_Black04
08-24-2004, 09:22 AM
Everything udpated: Puzzling ain't it? (http://photobucket.com/albums/v403/Zane_Black/Something%20Big%20Puzzle/?multi=3&addtype=)

Dalboz of Gurth
08-24-2004, 09:49 AM
Hey, cool! so I guess now we can be 100% sure about that R... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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"Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes."
Oscar Wilde

mrm3fan
08-24-2004, 10:24 AM
Here's my own little image thanks to those have have been doing such great work on all this.

http://www.orgsites.com/oh/mrm3fan/Working_Image.jpg

Zane_Black04
08-24-2004, 04:15 PM
Speculation Time: I wonder if the color of the letters mean anything, or if they are to just make it harder to see. Discuss.

matt myat
08-24-2004, 04:25 PM
good point, i think it's just to make them blend in, although Revelationist could have specfically chosen letters to go on predominantly "blue" squares and those to go on "red" ones

but they are spread out rather evenly (though I thought from the start the reds would be more dominant!) and are actually the infamous red and blue!

Dalboz of Gurth
08-24-2004, 05:15 PM
I agree... The red ones are sread out evenly... maybe it'll make out a pattern?

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"Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes."
Oscar Wilde

Revelationist
08-25-2004, 09:14 AM
http://revelationist.com/images/29.jpg

JDistheone
08-25-2004, 10:00 AM
OK letter P, number 29....looks like it goes at the top next to 12-Q. Pretty easy

Zane_Black04
08-25-2004, 10:11 AM
Everything is going great, just see for yourself...Right here! (http://photobucket.com/albums/v403/Zane_Black/Something%20Big%20Puzzle/?multi=1&addtype=)Now just to figure out what it all means.

LazerFX
08-25-2004, 12:45 PM
HEY! I recognise this!

It's from Revelationists latest puzzle on the 'Images' thread! (http://revelationist.com/press.htm)

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