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_VR_ScorpionWorm
05-12-2004, 01:07 PM
What do you miss from war movies that were made in the "days" compared to the "newer generation of war flicks? I personnaly miss the immersion of German language in the films. I dont mind reading the subtitles. I know it would not have looked great for Enemy at the Gates because all the actors would have been speaking Russian or German.

The point, is what details that go unnoticed in todays war flicks do you miss? Aside from the actual aircraft that flew, it is hard to get those nowadays.

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_VR_ScorpionWorm
05-12-2004, 01:07 PM
What do you miss from war movies that were made in the "days" compared to the "newer generation of war flicks? I personnaly miss the immersion of German language in the films. I dont mind reading the subtitles. I know it would not have looked great for Enemy at the Gates because all the actors would have been speaking Russian or German.

The point, is what details that go unnoticed in todays war flicks do you miss? Aside from the actual aircraft that flew, it is hard to get those nowadays.

"Soldiers, Sailors, and Airmen of the Allied Expeditionary force: You are about to embark upon a Great Crusade toward which we have strived these many months. The eyes of the world are upon you. Good Luck! And let us all beseech the blessing of Almighty God upon this great and noble undertaking" - Gen. Dwight D. Eiseinhower-Supreme Allied Commander.

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diomedes33
05-12-2004, 01:37 PM
The war wasn't a subplot.

It doesn't seem enough today to make a movie about the heroics involved in war time. Hollywood always has to add some cheesy love story. *cough* Pearl Harbor *cough*

Saving private ryan is borderline. Not a cheesy love story, but the war is still a subplot.

Exceptions I can think of is We Were Soldiers and Band of Brothers.

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Vortex_uk
05-12-2004, 04:03 PM
all the new hero always survives c**p,and the way old movies were actually realistic,instead of nowdays were a person could take 4 bullets and still be able to fight and kill 10 men. As an example (not a war film but still from hollywood) MI2 at the end where the 2 people are going at least 60 mp/h into each other,jump up at each other and fall off a 20ft cliff and get back up after 30 seconds without anything broken http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/crazy.gif Hollywood has gone downhill with its realisms in its movies.

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tfu_iain1
05-12-2004, 04:07 PM
i dunno, plenty of old war movies were unrealistic as hell, even after the war they still retained the heavy propagandist element, although late 50's, and 60's onwards up to about mid 70's
was a golden era

Pentallion
05-12-2004, 04:12 PM
The old war movies were not realistic and using MI2 as an example is totally off topic.

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_VR_ScorpionWorm
05-12-2004, 04:16 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by tfu_iain1:
i dunno, plenty of old war movies were unrealistic as hell, even after the war they still retained the heavy propagandist element, although late 50's, and 60's onwards up to about mid 70's
was a golden era<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Unrealistic due to the fact that they couldnt reproduce certain effects. Not all Hollywood films tackled the war subject extensively in the 50's, the war ended less than a decade ago, not something poeple wanted to be reminded of. Besides the Korean War was going on at the time, then the Cold War, then Viet Nam. But getting back to topic, as the years went on poducers started to show war films of WWII. I believe thats when all the best war films came out.

Hollywood just makes an effort to get the best known actors and lots of explosions just to make it look good, pointed out in Pearl Harbor with Ben. I rather take offense to the movie(but thats another topic) Lets hope the new BoB movie with Tom in it doesnt turn into some cr@pfest of a movie.

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_VR_ScorpionWorm
05-12-2004, 04:20 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Pentallion:
The old war movies were not realistic and using MI2 as an example is totally off topic.

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Agree with the off topic part but what I was trying to get at was immersion for the most part. Of course old war flicks werent going to be that realistic, when most movies were made the world was in constant flux. The german speaking, the war being a "subplot", and the hero always lives or gets a bus load of bullets and lives. Ive seen it in some war flick but dont remember which one.

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