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watteville
09-10-2004, 11:44 AM
Hello, as some of you know I am still building my cockpit. Made out of aluminium and Inspired by planes like the Supermarine Spitfire, ME-109, and Polikarpov I-16, I try to recreate a very racy sculptural machine that would look very good.

http://www.simpit.net/images/Rocket_belly2.jpg

Here is a picture of it upside down in my studio as I finish polishing it's belly. I hope to finish it in about 2 months and will keep you posted of the progress I make.

As you can see it has a very elliptical metal fuselage, short stubby wings and it rests on skids. the round hole on it's underbelly is to cool the PC inside and the square hole under the left skid is where power and data will enter the machine. Not a single wire will be seen, not a single piece of plastic.

watteville
09-10-2004, 11:44 AM
Hello, as some of you know I am still building my cockpit. Made out of aluminium and Inspired by planes like the Supermarine Spitfire, ME-109, and Polikarpov I-16, I try to recreate a very racy sculptural machine that would look very good.

http://www.simpit.net/images/Rocket_belly2.jpg

Here is a picture of it upside down in my studio as I finish polishing it's belly. I hope to finish it in about 2 months and will keep you posted of the progress I make.

As you can see it has a very elliptical metal fuselage, short stubby wings and it rests on skids. the round hole on it's underbelly is to cool the PC inside and the square hole under the left skid is where power and data will enter the machine. Not a single wire will be seen, not a single piece of plastic.

GAU-8
09-10-2004, 12:34 PM
beautiful.... AND original.

do you have pics of the internals? we/I would like to see.

anything made of aluminum is A-OK in my book. replica or not. please show us more http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Gooner01
09-10-2004, 12:37 PM
Very cool, Watteville! Thanks,and keep us posted on your progress!

S! Gooner

h009291
09-10-2004, 02:07 PM
Cool .... but ....

Some of you guys REALLY need to find a woman http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/mockface.gif

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westcoastphil
09-10-2004, 02:10 PM
Wow! Looks like you built that out of a drop tank http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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ednavar
09-10-2004, 02:49 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by h009291:
Cool .... but ....

Some of you guys REALLY need to find a woman http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/mockface.gif
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Indeed. But still very cool.. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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Freycinet
09-10-2004, 02:59 PM
amazing, mindblowing!

crazyivan1970
09-10-2004, 03:07 PM
very cool

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gates123
09-10-2004, 03:13 PM
Looks great, you sure thats not for Xwing vs Tie fighter?

lil_labbit
09-10-2004, 03:14 PM
WOW that looks great man !

... ever seen this :
http://www.acesim.com/ready.html

It might be worth it http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
Though I'd build me a plastic-pipe one first to test http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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The_Gnat
09-10-2004, 04:41 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by h009291:
Cool .... but ....

Some of you guys REALLY need to find a woman http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/mockface.gif

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Same outcome if I hit on a woman or fly FB. I crash and burn. It would be more rewarding if I find a woman on DF server who could shoot me down. Then I will only crash and burn half as much as I do now, but still talk to the ladies and dogfight as often as before. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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Space_Hippy
09-10-2004, 06:11 PM
Man, I thought it was something out of a StarTrek movie!! Cool! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/sonar.gif

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Bearcat99
09-10-2004, 08:26 PM
That looks great!! Is that aluminum sheeting on...... what kind of wood is that? Keep us all posted that looks great...

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TC_Stele
09-10-2004, 08:59 PM
Whoa! You crazy man, you. You're blowing my wooden cockpit out of the sky with that aluminum one.

Can't wait to see the results.

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adlabs6
09-10-2004, 10:32 PM
Looks like nice craftsmanship... but it looks big in that room. I hope it'll fit through the door to get it out!

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GAU-8
09-10-2004, 10:37 PM
MORE PICS.

please...

oh... and if you decide "im tired of flyin".. you can always add "zero resistance balm" ALA national lampoons christmas vacation, and have the slickest fastest uncontrollable tabogan in the world.your very own snow rocket. sell me one

JG301_nils
09-11-2004, 02:59 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by The_Gnat:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by h009291:
Cool .... but ....

Some of you guys REALLY need to find a woman http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/mockface.gif

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Same outcome if I hit on a woman or fly FB. I crash and burn. It would be more rewarding if I find a woman on DF server who could shoot me down. Then I will only crash and burn half as much as I do now, but still talk to the ladies and dogfight as often as before. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

"Fighter pilot`s emotions are those of the duellist - cool, precise, impersonal. He is privileged to kill well. If one must kill or be killed, it should be done with dignity."


<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well, what FB HAS and a good woman HASNÔ┬┤T is this http://www.hjelmevoll.net/images/Max%20renders/Escape_Key.jpg http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

http://www.hjelmevoll.net/images/Max%20renders/Nils_logo.gif

triggerhappyfin
09-11-2004, 03:57 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by watteville:
Hello, as some of you know I am still building my cockpit. Made out of aluminium and Inspired by planes like the Supermarine Spitfire, ME-109, and Polikarpov I-16, I try to recreate a very racy sculptural machine that would look very good.

http://www.simpit.net/images/Rocket_belly2.jpg

Here is a picture of it upside down in my studio as I finish polishing it's belly. I hope to finish it in about 2 months and will keep you posted of the progress I make.

As you can see it has a very elliptical metal fuselage, short stubby wings and it rests on skids. the round hole on it's underbelly is to cool the PC inside and the square hole under the left skid is where power and data will enter the machine. Not a single wire will be seen, not a single piece of plastic.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Do you got any more pics of your project?
Would be really nice to see some more details http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/blink.gif

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Heads-on firing was not a safe practice after all ?
Jussi Huotari: It was not specially recommendedÔ.....
And later, as the Russians were armed with 20mm cannons, it was unwise to meet them heads-on

Extreme_One
09-11-2004, 04:34 AM
If I brought something like that out of the shed and into the house she'd be singing " D I V O-R C E"

Might be worth it actually...

S! Simon
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watteville
09-11-2004, 06:16 AM
more pictures:

http://www.simpit.net/images/Rocketback.jpg

Here is the Simpit on its wings/legs, from 3/4 back, the door is closed. It is perfectly
cylindrical in section and elliptical in plan/elevation. The structure is 3/8 x 3/4 Poplar
longerons on 3/4" Plywood frames the aluminium plates are riveted directly on the wood. The rectangular hole on the left will be the opening for loading CD's; it will open a bit like an airbrake.

My son calls this machine the
Rocketship, I just call it the Rocket.


http://www.simpit.net/images/cockpit.jpg

Here is a view of the cockpit with the door open you can see that the monitor
( elegance oblige) will be buried in the middle of the instrument panel, you
can also see some of the instruments openings.

The instruments will be fakes and will serve as switches to control the
game; For example pressing on the center of the gyro compass will bring the
map, pressing on different areas of the artificial horizon will bring different
views. F1, F2, F3... etc.

On the right side of the pit, the squarish boxy thing
will be a Spitfire inspired compas that will be used as a mouse. I will try to make
everything look like real instruments, glass faced lighted & recessed.

http://www.simpit.net/images/rocketcontrols.jpg

This picture shows a better view of the instrument panel, on the left is the
FW 190 style power quadrant (minus prop control being assembled), The stick is inspired by a I-16 one and the rudder pedal is in a Me-109 style. Most of my work in the next 2 months
will be instruments, electronics computer and Control systems , The
controls, will be made of steel, aluminium on ball bearings. I will try my best
to recreate the forces of a real stick and add a real trim wheel.

[This message was edited by watteville on Sat September 11 2004 at 05:36 AM.]

Heavy_Weather
09-11-2004, 07:20 AM
very nice

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Monty_Thrud
09-11-2004, 07:48 AM
That sir is wonderful...keep up the good work and please keep us up to date with the progress...and if you get bored of it, i would love to have this as a sidecar for my Triumph motorcycle http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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F19_Ob
09-11-2004, 08:53 AM
Fun project u have going there....It will be interesting to see it finished.
S

horseback
09-11-2004, 09:20 AM
As the kids say-it's da bomb!

Seriously, fantastic work, but if I built one of those, I'd need a built-in refrigerator & a relief tube, 'cause I'd never leave.

cheers

horseback

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T_O_A_D
09-11-2004, 09:57 AM
I like it! But as mentioned before D_I_V_O_R_C_E

At the very least public mockery.

Have you checked your Private Topics recently? (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?a=ugtpc&s=400102)
My TrackIR fix, Read the whole thread (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?q=Y&a=tpc&s=400102&f=49310655&m=15310285&p=1)
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triggerhappyfin
09-11-2004, 10:45 AM
Great looking interior! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/11.gif

The design is beatiful.
I+ll add a link to
Another awesome project (http://www.bob-ma.org/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=3737)

Maybe you get some usefull tips from there.

Please keep us posted on your project.

By the way - do you got any pics taken during construction?

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Heads-on firing was not a safe practice after all ?
Jussi Huotari: It was not specially recommendedÔ.....
And later, as the Russians were armed with 20mm cannons, it was unwise to meet them heads-on

GAU-8
09-11-2004, 01:32 PM
once again.. beautiful!

but you didnt do something...that i think many would love to see (OR maybe you did..but havent said anything)

VIDEO DIARY!

if you dont have one now, maybe your next one.

heywooood
09-11-2004, 05:43 PM
That is very fine work..and a nice workshop environment too... but it is slightly reminiscent of this old TV show.
http://timvp.com/martian.jpg

http://timvp.com/martian6.jpg

http://timvp.com/martian4.jpg

Didnt 'uncle Martin' keep his lil' secret in the garage too?...


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heywooood
09-11-2004, 05:47 PM
sorry I just have to reiterate..that is a really nice workshop you have there!


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"check your puns"

Spinnetti
09-12-2004, 07:03 AM
You obviously have very good skills. Why don't you build a real airplane? I'm sure you could...

BaldieJr
09-12-2004, 04:43 PM
This is excellent. If I were asked to pick "Cockpit of the Year", this project would win.

Very inventive and origional design. I envy your abilities!

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watteville
09-14-2004, 07:46 AM
I am putting together a website www.simpit.net (http://www.simpit.net) where all the details of the flight simulator will be posted. I will try to update there twice a week.

I am still building the control system out of steel and I will post pictures of it next time. Today I took some pictures of the 1/3 model as it shows the final shape of the machine better because I dont have to cope with wide angle lenses. Final dimensions will be 11'-6" long 4' wingspan.

http://www.simpit.net/images/rok34.jpg


3/4 view


http://www.simpit.net/images/rocktop.jpg

Front from above.

http://www.simpit.net/images/rockside.jpg

Side.

F19_Ob
09-14-2004, 08:14 AM
Ha ha...and LoL....I really love the looks of that thing.
If U for some reason cant or wont use it, it should be highly possible to sell it as work of art. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/59.gif



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Fornixx
09-14-2004, 09:17 AM
You are insane man! Very impressive!

NTESLA
09-14-2004, 09:23 AM
Are you sure you are not building a time machine? Very well done, workmanship looks to be 100% genuine. Where will you place your display? Will it be CRT, LCD or Projection? What PC will run it? What sims will you have it run? Sound systems to be added ? Great work of art!

P.S. : After I complete "The Few" I should start to make a film about simheads as us, very interesting, think it would be much more so than Trekkies!

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watteville
09-14-2004, 10:58 AM
Thank you, The monitor will be a 17" lcd (thank you to those who convinced me to use a bigger one as I was going to use a 15"). I designed it for IL-2 but it could really run anything.

I am a sculptor and I think it is about time someone designs a video game "sculpture" as it would be an incredibly rich multidimensional object.

This is actually the third one I built, (I sold the first 2 as sculptures) and never had time to showcase them.

This time a New York gallery will show it in December and I hope to get more exposure.

Thank you all for your support, this is an interesting project for me and I have a feeling that it will inspire many builders to take a more artistic approach to simpits.

I am still researching the hardware components I will install inside; If you have any ideas please help right now I will use AMD 64, 1 gig ram Geforce 6800.... but still waiting for the last minute to build the PC. The hardware will fit behind the seat, cannot fit a case so the motherboard will be bolted directly to an aluminium bracket.

TX Rahman
09-14-2004, 10:58 AM
She's definately a beaut! Again...Divorce city here if I would pull that....I might be able to convince her to let me put one in the garage...heh Awesome! Keep up the great work....green with envy here.. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/crazy.gif

Regards and Salute,
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NTESLA
09-14-2004, 04:03 PM
That is a good aproach, an open PC but it will be troublesome for you to change it when you have to upgrade. Look at these SFF (Small Form Factor) computer that can accomadate your most power hungry hardware :

http://us.shuttle.com/SB83G5.asp

http://www.shuttle.com/share/simages/productimages/sb83g5.jpg

Some of these look like art just as your pit.

http://fluxout.homestead.com/files/Thx-32x.jpg

"You can discover what your enemy fears most by observing the means he uses to frighten you"

Eric Hoffer (1902 - 1983)

RJNewly
09-14-2004, 04:39 PM
You have got to be kidding right? Is this just an elaborate hoax? I hear the sucking sound right now! LOLhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

RAAF_Edin
09-14-2004, 10:18 PM
Man this is awesome and for the originality in design I vote 10/10 ! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

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LuckyBoy1
09-15-2004, 02:17 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by h009291:
Cool .... but ....

Some of you guys REALLY need to find a woman http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/mockface.gif

http://www.medals.org.uk/united-kingdom/images/uk654.jpg <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Uh... and spending hundreds if not thousands of Zloty's to play this game and pedals, joysticks, Track Ir is not a sign you might want to get a life?

Now with an actual index & more fiber! It is newer & and even more improved! It's Luckyboy's Guide For Complete Users!...

http://www.airwarfare.com/tech/tech_lbguide.htm#001%20Security%20Issues

Luckyboy = Senior hydraulic landing gear designer for the P-11 & Contributing Editor to Complete Users magazine.

watteville
09-16-2004, 03:45 AM
I am very slow these days because I am waiting for some ball bearings for the control system, next pictures will show them in details.

I am posting a picture of my 2002 prototype so you can have an idea how the panel will look.

http://www.simpit.net/images/pit_2.jpg

the monitor was a 15" LCD and it was fine, the pilot sat close enough to get a good field of view, the only advantage (other than aesthetics) with a monitor in the panel is comfort; kind of like reading a book sitting in your bed.

In my new one one, I managed to fit a 17", we'll see if it is better.

Anyhow a trackir-3 will be installed and will be made up to look like a gunsight, I think it will help a lot.

The whole thing weight at about 90 lbs now

[This message was edited by watteville on Thu September 16 2004 at 03:45 AM.]

triggerhappyfin
09-16-2004, 04:20 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by watteville:
I am very slow these days because I am waiting for some ball bearings for the control system, next pictures will show them in details.

I am posting a picture of my 2002 prototype so you can have an idea how the panel will look.

http://www.simpit.net/images/pit_2.jpg


the monitor was a 15" LCD and it was fine, the pilot sat close enough to get a good field of view, the only advantage (other than aesthetics) with a monitor in the panel is comfort; kind of like reading a book sitting in your bed.

In my new one one, I managed to fit a 17", we'll see if it is better.

Anyhow a trackir-3 will be installed and will be made up to look like a gunsight, I think it will help a lot.

The whole thing weight at about 90 lbs now<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Holy s***, heÔ┬┤s done one before....MORE PICS.....MORE PICS....pls http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/53.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v257/Triggerhappyfin/ace1copy.jpg
Heads-on firing was not a safe practice after all ?
Jussi Huotari: It was not specially recommendedÔ.....
And later, as the Russians were armed with 20mm cannons, it was unwise to meet them heads-on

Jieitai_Tsunami
09-16-2004, 06:37 AM
Watteville if you have the money and time to do some thing like that http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif.

Why not stretch some canvass across the nose and stick a projector on the back where you head won't get in the way http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif. You also need a great surround sound system!

Then your'll really be in ww2.

http://www.plustech.fi/DualVisual.html

http://www.plustech.fi/images/DualVisual_15.jpg

http://www.plustech.fi/images/ISOT/Simul04.jpg

http://www.plustech.fi/images/ISOT/Simul05.jpg

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watteville
09-16-2004, 07:09 AM
Is this a "tree harvesting" simulator http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/35.gif

Cool, I'll exchange my rocket for one, ha ha ha! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/52.gif

Heavy_Weather
09-16-2004, 07:21 AM
very cool http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

"To fly a combat mission is not a trip under the moon. Every attack, every bombing is a dance with death."
- Serafima Amsova-Taranenko: Noggle, Ann (1994): A Dance with Death.

Marc-David
09-16-2004, 07:51 AM
As we say in Southwest Germany:

Heilix Blechle! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Yours, Marc-David

triggerhappyfin
09-16-2004, 07:52 AM
Future of simulator? (http://home.comcast.net/~unixgeezer/bducomp.WMV)


Will you ever go this far??? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/59.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v257/Triggerhappyfin/ace1copy.jpg
Heads-on firing was not a safe practice after all ?
Jussi Huotari: It was not specially recommendedÔ.....
And later, as the Russians were armed with 20mm cannons, it was unwise to meet them heads-on

Cold_Gambler
09-16-2004, 08:36 AM
FANTASTIC, Watteville! Beautiful workmanship... and please do post more pics of this project and your previous one-

Odranoel1
09-17-2004, 01:43 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>


I am still researching the hardware components I will install inside; If you have any ideas please help right now I will use AMD 64, 1 gig ram Geforce 6800.... but still waiting for the last minute to build the PC.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

First of all: congratulations on this superb piece of creative engineering.
As to your question, I am building an IL-2 specific system right now:
AMD 3500+, MSI K8 Neo2, 2 x Crucial Ballistix 512 MB, XFX GF 6800 GT (with dual DVI!) and 2 WD Raptor 10'000 rpm disks.
I will post test results as soon as build complete.
Again hats off for your great work! S!

watteville
09-17-2004, 01:58 PM
Great, you will have a fabulous PC, everyone seems to be building PC's for IL2 around AMD chips is it really better? I don't know much about the latest hardware so if some of you are pros at this I would really appreciate some ideas.

This is going to be so cool

Monty_Thrud
09-17-2004, 05:00 PM
Fantastic!...i can see the future, we'll all be wired to machines one day...hmmm! well maybe not all...excellent progress watteville...keep it up

http://premium.uploadit.org/bsamania/HurricaneIVD_cartoon2-copyns11.jpg
"I won't let go of that youthful soul despite body and mind
my youth will never die" - CREED

MB_Avro
09-17-2004, 05:48 PM
This thread scares me....

I'm reminded of how I started a similar project last year and it took me seven months to complete. My doctor says that I may soon be able to meet people again but no visitors until I have swallowed ALL the capsules of so-called medication.

Why is it so difficult to create a life-size replica of Napoleon as my friend ??

Regards,
MB_Avro

Tooz_69GIAP
09-17-2004, 05:50 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by triggerhappyfin:
http://home.comcast.net/~unixgeezer/bducomp.WMV


Will you ever go this far??? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/59.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

That was, er.....odd?? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/35.gif

whit ye looking at, ya big jessie?!?!

http://www.baseclass.modulweb.dk/69giap/fileadmin/Image_Archive/badges/69giap_badge_tooz.jpg (http://giap.webhop.info)
Executive Officer, 69th GIAP
Za Rodinu!
Petition to stop the M3 motorway through the Tara-Skryne Valley in Co. Meath, Ireland (http://www.petitiononline.com/hilltara/petition.html)

watteville
09-18-2004, 08:49 AM
Ok I finally finished the controls, they are mostly steel all bolted and riveted together. All brackets and horns are wood sandwiched by aluminium plates.

http://www.simpit.net/images/controls_copy.jpg


#1 the control column. #2 steel reinforcing plates #3 the aileron axis #4 bearings and collars. #5 the elevator control push rod.#6 is the control horn #7 Elevator bracket #8 Support bracket for potentiometer (elevator) #9 Aileron control horn. #10 Potentiometer and its support brackets (ailerons)#11 Aileron bracket #11 Rubber blocks

triggerhappyfin
09-18-2004, 04:00 PM
http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/blink.gif NIIIiiice

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v257/Triggerhappyfin/ace1copy.jpg


Heads-on firing was not a safe practice after all ?
Jussi Huotari: It was not specially recommendedÔ.....
And later, as the Russians were armed with 20mm cannons, it was unwise to meet them heads-on

Hawgdog
09-18-2004, 04:37 PM
Wow

Nice craftsmanship. Even nicer creativity.

http://img5.photobucket.com/albums/v22/HawgDog/sharkdog.gif
When you get to Hell, tell 'em HawgDog sent you!
Remember our Mistflugzeugs, long live the Mistflugzeug

lil_labbit
09-18-2004, 04:46 PM
http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/blink.gif
wow again http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

http://members.home.nl/lil.labbit/lilseesya.jpg
The meek shall inherit the Earth
OK :O
So let me inherit the sky http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

And eh watteville - this much trouble and work http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

did you hear of devicelink :O

Link real flight instruments to real dashboard instruments indicating real values - well did ya ?
It only works off-line but hey who knows what the future brings http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
try a search for udpspeed or udpgraph
last I got a link for - http://www.avcsite.ru/il2dl/graph_en.htm
http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I love your work http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif each week an update eh ? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif


And eh Tsunami - that chair http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif WOW - where'd ya get that ?

[This message was edited by lil_labbit on Sat September 18 2004 at 03:55 PM.]

Hysyde
09-18-2004, 05:21 PM
That's cool.

But you should have your trim on a slider, not a wheel.

http://ca.geocities.com/hysyde2001/AVpro2small.txt

Tvrdi
09-18-2004, 05:54 PM
http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/11.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/11.gif

watteville
09-25-2004, 08:46 AM
Construction is slow because of the huge amount of details and also because this is still a prototype and I do a lot of rebuilds like.... the stick;

http://www.simpit.net/sitebuilder/images/stick2-304x354.jpg

all apart,

http://www.simpit.net/sitebuilder/images/stick1-275x539.jpg

Assembled, The lever is for wheel brakes and will be shortened a bit, when you press it it squeezes a rubber block and really feels like a brake.

http://www.simpit.net/images/thr2.jpg

Throttle quadrant all appart.

http://www.simpit.net/images/thr1.jpg

And all together and painted. It is still missing some screws and switches. The round openings on the top will recieve some back lighted graphics.

BaldieJr
09-25-2004, 10:46 AM
Are those rotational potentiometers?

I'm using linear slide pots in my control stick. It has greatly simplified the design.

I laid my prototype up in scrap wood and now know enough to build the final design, but I haven't decided on a material. I don't have the tools to work metals. Maybe acrylic sheet since I have a bunch of 1/4" pieces laying around.

I wish you were my neighbor! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

watteville
09-25-2004, 11:36 AM
yes they are, come from a CH fighterstick, very good quality, very strong. As for metal it really is the cheapest material and is very strong; It is common knowledge that the cost of all the Aluminium in a metal aircraft is equal to the cost of the fabric and dope of a wood one.

Heavy_Weather
09-25-2004, 11:44 AM
wow, now thats detail, bravo sir bravo http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

triggerhappyfin
09-25-2004, 02:49 PM
<span class="ev_code_YELLOW">Beutiful craftmanship!!</span>

Nice updates!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

Aaron_GT
09-26-2004, 03:36 AM
watteville:

There is a guy in the USA who creates cockpits which use a moulding that is like an upside down small rigid pond liner fitted with LCD screens and spekers and a seat mounted on a set of hydraulics that moves with the movements on screen. I bet your cockpit could be adapted to this purpose. There was an article about it in PC Pilot a while back, but we've run out of shelf space and I think I tossed that PC Pilot out.

Also another idea might be to combine your cockpit ideas and the tipping cockpit and essentially make a replica of the Link Trainer (WW2 instrument flying trainer) but with the LCD screen in the cockpit of course, all linked up with DeviceLink.

Aaron_GT
09-26-2004, 03:43 AM
'If I brought something like that out of the shed and into the house she'd be singing " D I V O-R C E"'

Or be phoning up the men in white coats!

watteville
09-26-2004, 09:34 AM
I thought about motion platform when I was making Mk-II, I thought of mounting the rocket on a very strong and stiff stick sticking out of its tailcone and disapearing into the wall into a machine room where all motors and counterweights would be housed. I abandoned the idea very early because of time. After, when flying Mk-II I did not miss the motion because everything else was so "real". I fly real gliders and apart from "G's" and turbulences I don't feel much motion when I fly so when flying MK-II, I thought it was all right "motionless". The fact that the machine was very clean and pure sitting in the room was more important to me than rigging it with "ugly" motion mechanisms and having that rock and shake. In the next one I will explore the possibilities offered by force feedback as it can elegantly recreate the buffeting of a stall, turbulence and the hardening of the controls as the speed increases. I have also heard of someone developping an inflatable suit that can recreate the G's.

Anyhow I feel that I am barely scratching the surface of all the possibilities an object like this can offer and I am convinced that the route I am taking is the right one (very sculptural, serious and handcrafted machine). This is only the third one I have made, and like a Spit this airframe can handle a lot of upgrades.

I am growing tired of calling it "The Rocket", and was wondering if you had any ideas of how I could call it?
"The Fighter" perhaps?

Aaron_GT
09-26-2004, 01:21 PM
Given what you made is a thing of beauty I bet you could make it move and still make it look gorgeous.

Either that, watteville, or you should go into design. I'd love to see a car you'd designed, or a coffee machine or something. It has a very classic style.

watteville
09-28-2004, 06:31 AM
Actually Aaron, I am an Industrial designer by trade and because business has been slow lately I have embarked myself in this adventure. The most fun I have ever had designing something, I can tell you that.

The rudder pedals are finished, they are mounted on a tray that is adjustable 18", One can see the "T" handle to unlock them.

http://www.simpit.net/images/rudders.jpg

tHeBaLrOgRoCkS
09-28-2004, 07:15 AM
MAMAPAJAMA!! I thought I had seen it all when it came to cockpits but you just blew my frontal lobe!!

Congratulations and respect to your ability!

I am almost scared to ask but have you ever seen mechwarrior I bet you could build a kickazz mech?

watteville
10-05-2004, 11:04 AM
hello everybody, construction continues and i should be done in about 2 weeks.

the stick is finished, wired painted and tested

http://www.simpit.net/images/finishedstick.jpg

Construction of the instrument panel starts with 1\4" plywood 040 aluminium and 1\8 plexiglas, all the parts are cut.

http://www.simpit.net/images/instconstruction.jpg

Instrument faces are designed in Illustrator and printed on a plastic film, after painting it is all about screwing it all together for an afternoon.

http://www.simpit.net/images/instrumentpanel.jpg

a close up shows how simulation controls are embeded inside the instruments.

http://www.simpit.net/images/instdetail.jpg

next will be all about wiring all this!

BaldieJr
10-05-2004, 02:18 PM
Would you be willing to sell some of those aluminum guage bezels?

triggerhappyfin
10-05-2004, 02:40 PM
This looks really good!!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

Great idea with those game controls built in!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

<span class="ev_code_YELLOW">IÔ┬┤M REALLY IMPRESSED</span> http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

lil_labbit
10-05-2004, 08:31 PM
WOW http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif
I'm out of words - don't happen often http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Snuffly
10-05-2004, 10:18 PM
Now what if... What if...!!!!

The hole cockpit was a screen of the cockpit of an airplane.

Like instead of moving a hat switch to back left to look back left you move your head to around yo your back left.

The whole cockpit excpet the controls and stuff is a screen. Now that would make me cry for joy!!!

But hey man, absolutely fantastic work, with that cockpit you have right now, heck i probably cry to have that anyway lol, keep up the good work.

TC_Stele
10-05-2004, 10:36 PM
I'm utterly blown away with the detail you've managed to do with this. You should go into business focussed on this.

Where do you get those metal circle instrument holders? (put it crudely)

Let us know how you wire that? I can't guess how that would work. I just now saw that the buttons will actually be functional instead of for looks. How does that connect to the keyboard buttons?

I have the AB Cockpit http://www.62ndfightingfalcons.asn.au/62ndff/projects/projects.htm
but I think I could spice up the panel a bit with instruments like that.

FI.Snaphoo
10-06-2004, 12:42 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

That has to be one of the coolest things that I have seen in a long time.

Well done sir! S!

watteville
10-06-2004, 07:04 AM
Thank you very much, thank you for your Emails also, This project wakes me up in the morning like no other, it is simply super exciting to design and build it at the same time and I totally understand the amount of work that goes into designing a car or a plane now.

The instruments are actually very simple, all the parts are cut using a band saw (Yes even the Bezel or metal circle instrument holders. all is then assembled using simple 4-40 screws.
The pushbuttons are screwed into the holes and voila a whole panel.

After the project is done I plan to finish the construction drawings for it. The cost of this whole instrument panel is all work; there is about $5 of plywood, $8 of plexiglas and $2.50 of aluminium, Pushbuttons are 25 cents apiece and wired to a hacked keyboard that you probably have hanging somewere in your attic or can pickup for a buck at a yard sale.

watteville
10-07-2004, 11:21 AM
Finished the mouse.

http://www.simpit.net/images/mouse.jpg

lil_labbit
10-07-2004, 12:34 PM
ROFL Mouse http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

That's a MEAN looking mouse http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
Great !

Heavy_Weather
10-07-2004, 01:17 PM
so when does this go into production? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

watteville
10-12-2004, 12:48 PM
The gunsight... well not really, it is a housing for trackir-3 a head traking device.

http://www.simpit.net/sitebuilder/images/trackir-407x304.jpg

its position on the cockpit

http://www.simpit.net/images/toppit.jpg

I guess it is becoming more 1930 now

nickdanger3
10-12-2004, 03:44 PM
You rule, Watteville. Simply amazing. Makes me wish I had talent and time and money and whatever else I would need to pull of something so cool.

roybaty
10-12-2004, 04:50 PM
AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

I haven't read through all the posts but I'm betting you build/built kitplanes and or scratchbuilt from plans. This is a true labor of love, beautiful detail and workmanship!

You're at least in the metal/woodworking field I'd bet.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

JRJacobs
10-12-2004, 08:40 PM
this is awesome... personally i like this the best cause i feel it's something i could try my hand at... now you want to see the ULTIMATE gaming cocckpit go here
http://www.bob-ma.org/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=473&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

can you say spitfire... i knew you could

Bearcat99
10-12-2004, 09:00 PM
Wow.... I am totally blown away.. I havent visited this thread since September 10th.... that is absolutely amazing work. You know...... If you could streamline the production of this and get the cost of production down.. you could most likely at the very least make some extra dough on the side. if you made them more specific to certain plane types but all basically the same.... WOW...

I know this isnt neccessary but ignore the numnutz comments... this is absolutely amazing work. I love the way you took the controls of the sim and literally incorporated them into the unit... not in a pretentious or uncreative way but actually blended them in.. in a functional way. I love te way you took the functions of the sim and incorporated them into the dials. I have most of those buttons somewhere on my stick setup but it would be nice to have them on a box somewhere or layed out in a cockpit like that. Awesome work.....

watteville
10-13-2004, 03:28 PM
Yes that spit pit is awsome, I have been following Dave for some time and we exchange mail once in a while. I must admit that his workmanship is way ahead of mine. I really hope that one day we could have both our pit side by side, try them and brainstorm for a while... Maybe I'll go to Blackpool.

funhouse24
10-13-2004, 05:17 PM
Francois, you do yourself an injustice sir, I am only building from drawings, you are building your own design.
Keep up the great work.

Dave

GAU-8
10-14-2004, 02:58 AM
watteville,

looks like funhouse beat me to it..

the spit pit is great idea, and talent, but yours is not in any aircraft book. yours is completely ....YOURS... at some point, (which sux) someone will say "the spit pit is done wrong on XXXX account..when compared to the real", but the same cannot be said for yours, its gorgeous, original, is not limited by history, or history buffs.

do you have ANY video of creation? will you MAKE any? would love to see even a basic documentary on your pit.

TX Rahman
10-14-2004, 09:31 AM
For us un-wood/metalworking folks... Was looking at this and thinking...hmmm... Find an old BD5 fuselage and Viola! Kinda similar in shape to Watteville's beauty... Search on Google for BD5, BD5j or Bede 5 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

TX Rahman
10-14-2004, 10:49 AM
For example... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

http://www.txsquadron.com/uploaded/tx-rahman/BD5.jpg

watteville
10-21-2004, 06:56 AM
The Power quadrant is finished.

http://www.simpit.net/images/finished_power_quadrant.jpg

One can see that some graphics are lit in the circles. The Power lever is on a potentiometer, while the two others are double switches that will increase or decrease prop and mixture in 10% increments with each click. I would have preferred potentiometers but because some of the best simulators work this way I had
no choice. The button in front of the prop lever is the constant speed propeller on off switch, the
red one at the end will re-center the track-IR device and the two black ones can be programmed for
the 2 most used left hand switches.

Heavy_Weather
10-21-2004, 07:13 AM
wow that throttle quadrant is amazing sir http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

madsarmy
10-21-2004, 07:15 AM
Blown Away with your talent M8. Amazing!

JG301_nils
10-21-2004, 08:46 AM
Really amazing watteville!
I sometimes wonder if Oleg really knew what he started around the world, when he first released IL2, there has indeed been a few amazing spin-off products in itÔ┬┤s wake and not to forget the increased interest and sale on WW2 books and printed material. Just look at the hi-res screens thread, alot of these, I am sure will be future aviation artists, spun off from this great game.... (or shall I say product)

watteville
10-23-2004, 11:22 AM
sometimes I think that this is like one of the first computer game sculpture, or maybe it could even be the most complicated game ever made. anyhow I finished the power box

http://www.simpit.net/images/power_box.jpg


It sits on the right hand side of the cockpit and is shown in "night" position. It controls 2 things;

MAIN POWER acts as a "ON" or as a cutoff for all power entering the rocket. fliping this switch off is
like unplugging everything.

CPU POWER is to turn on the computer, a yellow LED behind the word CPU will indicate how it is
doing.

WUAF_Badsight
10-23-2004, 01:25 PM
awww maaaan

not a single pic loads on my screen

i was robbed !

GT182
10-23-2004, 06:05 PM
TC_Stele, how difficult was it to build the Ackers-Barnes cockpit? I have the plans and am thinking of building one myself. My only problem is blowing them up big enough to read.

WhiteKnight77
10-23-2004, 06:32 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by watteville:


http://www.simpit.net/images/finished_power_quadrant.jpg
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Gotta wonder about a plane with park and reverse. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

Seriously though, everything looks great.

TheGozr
10-23-2004, 06:44 PM
http://www.simpit.net/images/Rocketback.jpg
What watteville doesn't say is that his real project behind all this... is a Time Machine.. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Fantastic project...

watteville
10-24-2004, 03:35 PM
Are you a Frenchman in California? Gozr, I like that international competition you organise.
After this project is over I'll fly some with you guys.

TheGozr
10-24-2004, 04:08 PM
Yes i am and yes in Cal http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

yes come over http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

TC_Stele
10-29-2004, 01:44 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by GT182:
TC_Stele, how difficult was it to build the Ackers-Barnes cockpit? I have the plans and am thinking of building one myself. My only problem is blowing them up big enough to read. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

It was not difficult at all. I've never built anything like this and it was easier than I thought it'd be except for a few minor mistakes that were easily fixed. (I'm not your Tool Man kinda guy, and it was easy) I'll post some shots tomorrow.

watteville, how is your cockpit coming along?

Also, I thought this would be kinda neat for the cockpit panel for some buttons to put somewhere on the AB Cockpit http://www.thenerds.net/productpage.asp?un=147485&s=1

watteville
10-29-2004, 08:14 AM
wiring wiring wiring!!! hopefully almost finished

http://www.simpit.net/images/wires.jpg

and the PC is finished

http://www.simpit.net/images/pc.jpg

it will sit behind the pilot and is a AMD 64 3400 with 1gig DDR, Geforce 68000 and a motherboard that matches the bus speeds

Simjock
10-29-2004, 09:33 AM
I have seen several of these types of home built simulators, but I must say yours is certainly the coolest around.

One thing evade me...

All that work into desgn and construction of the "box" and I have yet to see anyone install an advanced graphics display. It seems every one is still useing single monitors.

Have you ever heard of the Matrox Prehilia?
http://www.matrox.com/mga/3d_gaming/enhanced_games/media/forgotten_battles/Forgotten_M04.jpg

http://www.matrox.com/mga/3d_gaming/enhanced_games/media/forgotten_battles/Forgotten_M10.jpg

http://www.matrox.com/mga/3d_gaming/enhanced_games/forgotten_battles.cfm

http://www.matrox.com/mga/products/parhelia/home.cfm

Obi_Kwiet
10-29-2004, 11:26 AM
Yeah, but besides it's tri-moniter support, it's a crappy card so I hear.

XyZspineZyX
10-29-2004, 01:30 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by TheGozr:
http://www.simpit.net/images/Rocketback.jpg
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Maybe if you can get a hold of some surplus JATOs you could compete for next year's X-prize?

watteville
10-30-2004, 08:36 AM
The door is installed one can barely see it when closed, onlt the hinge pattern of the plates gives it away

http://www.simpit.net/images/door1.jpg

Now slightly open

http://www.simpit.net/images/door2.jpg

open

http://www.simpit.net/images/door3.jpg

I think I am about 2 days away from the end, Today I am finishing polishing to a mirror, like a medieval armor

http://www.simpit.net/images/polishing.jpg

FI.Spitsfire
10-30-2004, 11:18 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif Can't see them, RedX syndrome

tHeBaLrOgRoCkS
10-30-2004, 03:31 PM
Man this thing never ceases to amaze me the words 'green' and 'envey' come to mind lol

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Owlsphone
10-30-2004, 03:49 PM
That is the coolest door I have ever seen.

You are a true artist. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

GT182
10-30-2004, 06:18 PM
Outstanding work Watteville. JWD S! Add me to the "Green With Envy" list. I sure wish I was that talented. BTW, do you have an extra copy of yer pit laying around for sale? Or even better, plans and a materials list?

I'm nominating Watteville for "Cockpit of the Year". That he does deserve.

Jagdgeschwader2
10-30-2004, 09:46 PM
We should have a sticky for cockpit builders
to show their projects off. I'm getting the itch to build one now. Great work watteville!
This has to be one of the most visually appealing cockpits I have ever seen. You
could put it on display in a modern art museum.


http://home.earthlink.net/~jagdgeschwader26/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/jagdgeschwader2s.jpg

PBNA-Boosher
10-30-2004, 09:59 PM
Cool stuff! Wouldn't it be hilarious if you sat in it and it collapsed!

tHeBaLrOgRoCkS
10-30-2004, 11:29 PM
You sir have an evil mind http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

FI.Spitsfire
10-31-2004, 04:24 AM
oh so tempted... what do I need a bed for... then I would have room.... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Fehler
10-31-2004, 04:45 AM
Without a doubt, this is the most creative sim cockpit I have ever seen. It has a 30's kind of sci-fi look to it. I showed this thread to my wife and she was amazed. Then she quickly looked at me and said, "Dont get any ideas mister!" http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

watteville
11-01-2004, 06:39 AM
Polishing is finished took 2 guys a whole day but was well worth is as it really is silver aluminium.

First order of business is the rudder pedals, they are on 2 tracks and adjustable on 18 ".

This whole bunch of wires look messy but it allows me to see were everything is and if a system is not working properly I can yank it out still connected and work on it on my lap, plus I rather be too long rather than too short.

http://www.simpit.net/images/rudderinstall.jpg

watteville
11-01-2004, 10:53 AM
OK it is going much faster than I thought, all the parts screw in with no snag yet.

view from the door

http://www.simpit.net/images/rightside.jpg

The left side

http://www.simpit.net/images/left.jpg

close up on the flaps and gear

http://www.simpit.net/images/flaps_gear.jpg

If all goes to plan I should be able to test fly my rocket tonight

Monty_Thrud
11-01-2004, 05:23 PM
Simply stunning http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif...i love this kind of dedication and attention to detail...bravo sir! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

tHeBaLrOgRoCkS
11-01-2004, 06:02 PM
FAAAAAAAAAAAR out man bon voyage S!

Old_Canuck
11-02-2004, 01:42 AM
Must feel good to be almost finished. Beautiful piece of work Watteville!

watteville
11-02-2004, 06:47 AM
Test flight is pushed back to tonight as 2 controls don't work; Flaps up and center cockpit throw my pc on standby, and only one green light comes up when the gear is down.

not too bad considering the 100's of connections that I soldered. now I have to discover witch ones i did wrong.

Anyhow I had to babysit and it was too dark.

http://www.simpit.net/images/test.jpg

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320BUSDRVR
11-02-2004, 07:05 AM
You have WAY, WAY too much time on your hands.
I like it though! I wish I had such tallent.



<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by watteville:
Hello, as some of you know I am still building my cockpit. Made out of aluminium and Inspired by planes like the Supermarine Spitfire, ME-109, and Polikarpov I-16, I try to recreate a very racy sculptural machine that would look very good.

http://www.simpit.net/images/Rocket_belly2.jpg

Here is a picture of it upside down in my studio as I finish polishing it's belly. I hope to finish it in about 2 months and will keep you posted of the progress I make.

As you can see it has a very elliptical metal fuselage, short stubby wings and it rests on skids. the round hole on it's underbelly is to cool the PC inside and the square hole under the left skid is where power and data will enter the machine. Not a single wire will be seen, not a single piece of plastic. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

watteville
11-03-2004, 12:32 PM
FINISHED, FINISHED, SHE IS FINISHED

http://www.simpit.net/images/backabove.jpg

All polished and ready to fly

http://www.simpit.net/sitebuilder/images/copen-257x191.jpg

Loading CD's

http://www.simpit.net/sitebuilder/images/close-263x195.jpg

And it retracts neatly

http://www.simpit.net/images/app1.jpg

The closed door is invisible

http://www.simpit.net/images/app2.jpg

The handle to open it is inside

http://www.simpit.net/sitebuilder/images/app3-261x195.jpg

Nice and cozy, one must stand on the seat and lower oneself like a foot in a shoe.

http://www.simpit.net/images/app4.jpg


Flip the right switch on the power box and the main power is on; slowly a large fan starts its whine from behind the seat, it cools everything and means that power is on. One touch of the red button on the left and the PC will start, a small LED behind the word CPU lights on, indicating that the computer is now powering up.

To be continued.....

watteville
11-03-2004, 12:58 PM
http://www.simpit.net/images/pow1.jpg

The 3 switches above the mouse, (the Burgundy ball thing), are from left to right Main accessory power and Sound, the middle one is for instrument lights and the right one for comfort fan on the pilot's feet. One can see the instrument panel lit by its small post lights.

http://www.simpit.net/images/app5.jpg

Everything is on ready to fly!!

http://www.simpit.net/sitebuilder/images/app6-349x260.jpg

The Rocket's office!!.... Throttle one inch!

http://www.simpit.net/sitebuilder/images/starter-205x253.jpg

CLEAR!! press starter

Sounds is great, it is worth to push it a bit as everything vibrates fantastically and the 109's engine noises are simply fabulous, especially when powering back!!.

Nothing out of the ordinary to say about the controls except that they are much much better than a stock CH stick because the arm is almost double, so it is super precise

http://www.simpit.net/sitebuilder/images/rocket_on-431x360.jpg

Bon voyage!!

Monty_Thrud
11-03-2004, 01:19 PM
One word...that is simply an amazing work of art...and for a change a work of art that will give pleasure AND teach some history at the same time, for a long time ...i'm envious of your talents...well done sir...i'll have two please http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

TX-EcoDragon
11-03-2004, 01:33 PM
Pure Art!

DD_NL
11-03-2004, 03:17 PM
Un-freaking-real! Is there anyway you can make a short video of the thing in action? That would be awesome.

Karkadann
11-03-2004, 09:06 PM
interesting to say the least - wish I had the resources to make my own - masterfully done is the better way to describe it - and beautiful

wondering if you considered the fact that heat rises (I'm sure you know that - there is more to what I mean), and in an enclosed area, especially one that is keeping in your body heat, along with the PC's heat, that a hole on the bottom might be completely inefficient

if your plan is to put in fans to move the air through, you're going to have to put some big (noisy) ones to get enough air flow to keep the CPU cool

I would recommend having the heat come out the top - and if possible, you could cut a hole in the top to make it look like air intakes on the sides (also, depending on how you are going to have your computer case set up, if you are going to have the PC in its case, you should cut a hole in the top to assist in airflow - don't make it too big - you don't want to just leave the top off - that will make it hard to have proper guided airflow, but, you could even make a change in a PC case, give it a pyramid type shape on the top and the heat would come to a point, where you could have a fan mounted to exhaust the heat

I think you might be sorry if you don't

if this has been addressed somewhere in the 7 pages of this thread, I am sorry to have been redundant - I just don't have the time to read all 7 pages

Edit: I wrote the post without seeing you had finished it - hope the heat situation is acceptable http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

BaldieJr
11-03-2004, 09:23 PM
Congrats on your completion!

With any luck, mine will be the next to see public scrutiny but I seriuosly doubt it will live up to the standard you have now set.

You sir, rock.

Old_Canuck
11-03-2004, 09:43 PM
Job well down, Sir http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

Looking forward to your first pilot report.

Owlsphone
11-03-2004, 10:40 PM
We are so not worthy http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

Like what has been said before - It is a beautiful work of art, but the fact that it is a fully functional cockpit just reminds me of your genius.

Very well done sir.

tHeBaLrOgRoCkS
11-04-2004, 06:37 AM
Dood!!

The CD tray thang (not to mention everything else) is just so cool!!

You have one helluva a tallent there!

Do you do hydraulics cos a motion cradle for that thang would be the dogs bouncy bits !

-HH- Beebop
11-04-2004, 07:05 AM
Very, very, nice!

"It's a flight simulator."
"No, it's a work of art."
"You're both right, it's a flight simulator AND a work of art."

(apologies to Saturday Night Live)

adlabs6
11-04-2004, 01:10 PM
Wow, amazing work. Glad to see your project is finished and you can get to enjoying it.

TheGozr
11-05-2004, 01:04 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

madsarmy
11-05-2004, 05:18 AM
Amazing!

watteville
11-05-2004, 07:13 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Karkadann:
interesting to say the least - wish I had the resources to make my own - masterfully done is the better way to describe it - and beautiful

wondering if you considered the fact that heat rises (I'm sure you know that - there is more to what I mean), and in an enclosed area, especially one that is keeping in your body heat, along with the PC's heat, that a hole on the bottom might be completely inefficient

if your plan is to put in fans to move the air through, you're going to have to put some big (noisy) ones to get enough air flow to keep the CPU cool

I would recommend having the heat come out the top - and if possible, you could cut a hole in the top to make it look like air intakes on the sides (also, depending on how you are going to have your computer case set up, if you are going to have the PC in its case, you should cut a hole in the top to assist in airflow - don't make it too big - you don't want to just leave the top off - that will make it hard to have proper guided airflow, but, you could even make a change in a PC case, give it a pyramid type shape on the top and the heat would come to a point, where you could have a fan mounted to exhaust the heat

I think you might be sorry if you don't

if this has been addressed somewhere in the 7 pages of this thread, I am sorry to have been redundant - I just don't have the time to read all 7 pages

Edit: I wrote the post without seeing you had finished it - hope the heat situation is acceptable http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You are absolutely right, heat rises, and the fan would be more effective on the top, but I would run into other problems, aestetics for one, the fan on the top would remind people that ... it's a PC... and if it is on top god knows what will fall in it.

In all there are 5 fans in the rocket
-1 the power supply very very quiet
-2 the CPU heatsink normally runs at 2000 rpm and switches to 5000 if CPU heats too much
-3 A big 115 volts fan at the bottom "on" all the time and is as noisy as the pc
-4 and -5 2X 12 volts fans on the pilot's feet circulates the air from the front to the cockpit opening as needed to cool the pilot's feet.

The PC is open, (no case) and it is true that the bottom fan does a poor job cooling it, but is still all right for the hour or two that I play

I plan to link the bottom fan with a flexible duct to the top of the cavity to suck out the hot air from above, it should work much better.

- This will be the first mod

There will be more

I am just test flying it to death right now and anyone in the New York area is welcome to come and help me find the little things that could improve it.

And Baldie, I am working on a set of construction documents and manual for Rocket MK-4 and I'll send you a copy as a wedding present http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

BaldieJr
11-05-2004, 05:35 PM
Cool http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I learned a lot of neat tricks by looking at your pics. Thanks to your artistic example my pit will be far cooler http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

watteville
11-07-2004, 07:50 AM
We've put about 20 hours on the rocket so far, I have modified the controls for comfort; If any of you has ever flown a LS-1D glider the controls feel exactly the same now, except that the stick is longer. It is almost a necessity because of the reclining position and the long playing hours.

No overheating problem yet the seat gets a bit hot after a while and I don't know if it is the seat itself or the pc behind it. I guess i'll have to take a good book and read it inside with the PC off to see.

Trackir-3 is working fine but I will modify its housing so it sits further away from the pilot.
Its adjustments right now are speed 10 and movements 0.0.1.1.2.2 abit close for slowing it more.

I will change some controls buttons due to some ergonomics discoveries I have made.

little by little I will get there.

watteville
11-09-2004, 11:12 AM
More track ir

http://www.simpit.net/images/tir1.jpg

My TrackIr had some problem tracking the dot when the pilot's head is away from center; With a round head screw #6 a baseball cap and the supplied small round dot the problem is solved

http://www.simpit.net/images/tir2.jpg

Here is the finished baseball cap worn by my kid's 55 year old nanny.

http://www.simpit.net/images/nny.jpg


And now she can eat some P-47 in her 109 while my kids nap

tHeBaLrOgRoCkS
11-09-2004, 11:40 AM
Hey great idea I will have to look into that I cant use the screw with my particular set up but I recon I can cut the head from one to achieve the same affect. There should be some kinda prize here for the best dam thread on the GD. Sticky or something I dunno either way great work.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Monty_Thrud
11-09-2004, 02:08 PM
Now we just need her to test it for about 3 hrs a night for about a month to see if the seating position is user friendly... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif...only j/k

triggerhappyfin
11-09-2004, 11:51 PM
Watteville! That been my mean wife, I wouldnt bother with the baseball cap...IÔ┬┤ve just made use of that screw anyhow... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

Chivas
11-16-2004, 06:50 PM
Outstanding Craftsmanship Watteville.

I have a question about your stick throw. In one post you mentioned being able to easily fine tune your stick movements to line up the shot. I'm having the exact opposite problem with my new X52 joystick. The X52 has a much longer throw than my old MS joystick. I have to move the stick much farther to tweak the shot.

VO1-VC
11-16-2004, 08:22 PM
WOW, very nice work, Watteville! I just read your entire thread for the first time - AWSOME.

I have been building and flying RC aircraft for over 25 years, and have flown flight sims since the early 80's. It was a most enjoyable experience to read about and see the progress of your project as it unfolded.

Thank-you for sharing this!

FoolTrottel
11-17-2004, 10:10 AM
Watteville,
Very very nicely done.
Technical detail and craftmanship.... And it looks so good!.... And it also really works!

I'm amazed.

Only one thing had me puzzeled, but after reading the complete thread I think I know the answer, but just to be sure....
The fact that the LCD is completely built into the cockpit puzzeled me a lot. As I think this infects the 'reality' look of it all in a bad way: on the screen you look at the outside view, while your head is looking 'down' into the cockpit...
But, as you are a true designer, I can imagine you would think that placing the LCD on top of the Rocket, sticking out, would really spoil it's looks.... and, if so... you are right!

Please understand, no critism here, just amazement...

watteville
11-18-2004, 01:43 AM
I have been thinking a lot about putting a lcd projector and a screen projecting the image outside the rocket and a real gunsight inside. If it is visually more real it starts complicating the trackir experience a lot making it wierd to use.

tHeBaLrOgRoCkS
11-18-2004, 08:02 AM
http://www.elumens.com/

check under products and select vision station

thats what sold me on projection but I see your point about a fixed gunsight and I think in order to get that level of coompatability you would probably need some kinda motion platform? Trouble is I think this would be a major budget buster. As to compatability with IL2 hmm.

Perhaps a completely new project ?

http://members.cox.net/rwcobra/

these guys made something along the lines of what I am talking about.

FoolTrottel
11-18-2004, 11:23 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by watteville:
I have been thinking a lot about putting a lcd projector and a screen projecting the image outside the rocket and a real gunsight inside. If it is visually more real it starts complicating the trackir experience a lot making it wierd to use. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

But, if you would use a large enough projection screen, you wouldn't need TrackIR any more....
('Large enough' could be 360 all the way round. But then again, the looks of the rocket would certainly be spoilt... it would be invisible...;-)

jeroen-79
11-18-2004, 12:04 PM
I think you may only have to raise TIR a bit because your head will be raised too.

How about building TIR into the gunsight?
If TIR looks up at the slanted glass it could see the dot reflected 90Ô? on the glass.

TheGozr
11-18-2004, 01:12 PM
So watteville how is it now.?

emailed you btw

watteville
11-19-2004, 10:44 AM
Re-send me that Mail, I am on a business trip in Europe, and I have screwed up my mailbox.

I am looking at ways to produce Rockets, kits and/or parts.

watteville
11-28-2004, 03:14 PM
Back in NYC, flight testing continues and all little quirks ironed out. If anyone is interested in test flying it, send me an email and I'll arrange something. The Rocket is still located in New York.

GAU-8
11-28-2004, 05:13 PM
so...

any videos yet? either of building it..or just whats under the hood , and happily rubbing it into our faces??? we wanna see http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif