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Mogalen
02-13-2017, 06:22 PM
This is an informative post from u/Willythakidd on Reddit. I'm just passing it along to this forum... All of the work was done by him, and this is not in any way my post:

"First and foremost, I want to congratulate the Knights on the faction war victory during the Open Beta for this wonderful game. Admittedly, I will look at your golden frames with fury, but will atleast be content with whatever exclusive reward I SHOULD be receiving for pledging my allegiance to the Viking faction, who won the faction war during the Closed Beta.
Now some of you might be saying, "This salty neckbeard...everyone gets a reward for participating in the CB. There is no reward for winning the faction war during that time."
And that's where I am going to have to stop you:

Source 1 - Official Press Release On January 10, 2017, Ubisoft issued an official press release that announces the dates of the Closed Beta. The second paragraph states:
"Coinciding with the Closed Beta, Ubisoft is launching War of the Factions, a limited-time event which will help answer the question: When the mighty Vikings, deadly Samurai and bold Knights finally collide on the battlefield, who will reign supreme? War of the Factions will track all multiplayer activities across all platforms from all players during the Closed Beta, and will reward players for fighting for their factions and honor the winning faction with additional rewards. The rewards will transfer to the full game and only be available to Closed Beta participants."

If you are still a neigh-sayer and deny that Vikings are deserving of a reward for winning the CB faction war, I'd like to present to you:

Source 2 Official Blog Post On January 10, 2017, Chris Watters, Communications Specialist at Ubisoft authored a blog post to accompany the announcement of the CB dates. If we look at the second paragraph of his blog post:
During the Closed Beta, players can also dive into War of the Factions and get a taste of the overarching conflict between the three warring groups. War of the Factions will track every match across all platforms during the Closed Beta, and players will be rewarded for fighting for their factions (with extra spoils going to the victorious faction). Additional rewards will also be given to those that participate in the Closed Beta. Both sets of rewards will transfer over to the full game at launch.

Again, not trying to downplay the victory of the Knights for their work during this past weekend. But I refuse to be to accept the fact that my faction's hard work and victory during the CB will not be honored."

Brunn_MgAmadd
02-13-2017, 06:25 PM
U guys had the privilege of playing CB and are still complaining?? o.O

AveImperator85
02-13-2017, 06:25 PM
Yes, and they CHANGED their decision because it's kind of unfair to offer exclusive rewards for a CLOSED BETA that only a few select people were able to participate in. Makes far more sense to reward OPEN BETA since ANYONE can join and participate if they choose to.

Remember that EVERYTHING before launch is subject to change, including beta rewards.

Mewsan
02-13-2017, 06:28 PM
Yes, and they CHANGED their decision because it's kind of unfair to offer exclusive rewards for a CLOSED BETA that only a few select people were able to participate in. Makes far more sense to reward OPEN BETA since ANYONE can join and participate if they choose to.

Remember that EVERYTHING before launch is subject to change, including beta rewards.

Yet they do offer exclusive rewards for the closed beta players. They just don't offer anything special to the closed beta winners, even though they said they would.

Zumaht
02-13-2017, 06:29 PM
Just typical ubi going back on what they say while reusing get to comment on it and ignoring any posts about it.

davedxd
02-13-2017, 06:30 PM
yeah sure, cause you were playing the closed beta cause you wanted a reward, not cause you wanted to play the game and test it out before buying..the amount of butthurt ppl over a small reward is huge, if that is such a big deal for you and you cant get over it, show ubisoft whos the boss and dont buy the game..

Fo1v
02-13-2017, 06:44 PM
No one should have to justify why they feel cheated for not receiving something they were repeatedly told that they would receive. That being said, I don't really care much about the rewards one way or the other; likely the in game unlockables will be more appealing in the long run anyway. But that doesn't detract from the fact that they blatantly misrepresented the rewards, and lied about they were going to be doled out. With that being said as well, I am FINE with them deciding to offer everyone the rewards from the closed beta in the end regardless of how shady it is... but then shouldn't it only seem fair to offer the same with the open beta, especially with the final server issues? I don't even understand how anyone would argue against that.

davedxd
02-13-2017, 06:48 PM
No one should have to justify why they feel cheated for not receiving something they were repeatedly told that they would receive. That being said, I don't really care much about the rewards one way or the other; likely the in game unlockables will be more appealing in the long run anyway. But that doesn't detract from the fact that they blatantly misrepresented the rewards, and lied about they were going to be doled out. With that being said as well, I am FINE with them deciding to offer everyone the rewards from the closed beta in the end regardless of how shady it is... but then shouldn't it only seem fair to offer the same with the open beta, especially with the final server issues? I don't even understand how anyone would argue against that.

im pretty sure that when u agree to something, you know that things can change, especially if its a beta, they can tell you that they are going to nerf a class, and then they decide that they won't, cause its better the way it already is, are you going to cry over the nerf that didnt happen ? no, you move on, you realize that the decision they made is probably cause they think its for the best...all these people crying over that emblem must have 15 years old or less..

Brunn_MgAmadd
02-13-2017, 06:52 PM
I think people are missing their "for honor" fix of the day so they are grumpy :D

Fo1v
02-13-2017, 06:56 PM
im pretty sure that when u agree to something, you know that things can change, especially if its a beta, they can tell you that they are going to nerf a class, and then they decide that they won't, cause its better the way it already is, are you going to cry over the nerf that didnt happen ? no, you move on, you realize that the decision they made is probably cause they think its for the best...all these people crying over that emblem must have 15 years old or less..

Unfortunately, that logic is only being applied one way. When anyone suggests that they "change" their policy on the knight win, people start to complain that it would be unfair to alter the outcome or the rewards offered to them. But when that exact same thing happened to another faction, they are told to keep their mouths shut and to not cry over a victory reward that was advertised but never given to them. It's all very childish, I agree, but unfortunately I count you among them due to the fact you are just insulting others for seeking equal treatment in both beta victories. But I digress, this isn't really a point that I am that interested in pursuing. People will continue to be upset, and you will continue to call them names because ad-hominem is more effective in your mind than an actual discussion surrounding the issue.

DDSDevilDog
02-13-2017, 06:58 PM
I am sure any other faction would be expecting a reward for winning the CB when that is what was stated. I am not one who has complained about the knights winning the OB, but I do believe that the Vikings deserve something for winning the CB as was promised.

if any of you other factions had won the CB you would be complaining as well.

davedxd
02-13-2017, 07:10 PM
Unfortunately, that logic is only being applied one way. When anyone suggests that they "change" their policy on the knight win, people start to complain that it would be unfair to alter the outcome or the rewards offered to them. But when that exact same thing happened to another faction, they are told to keep their mouths shut and to not cry over a victory reward that was advertised but never given to them. It's all very childish, I agree, but unfortunately I count you among them due to the fact you are just insulting others for seeking equal treatment in both beta victories. But I digress, this isn't really a point that I am that interested in pursuing. People will continue to be upset, and you will continue to call them names because ad-hominem is more effective in your mind than an actual discussion surrounding the issue.

look, if they decided to change the rewards from closed beta before the end of the closed beta, no one would mind the results and no one would mind the change, but now that vikings lost open beta war, and there is a reward for the open beta, they are spreading tears across the internet..''now that we lost the open beta war, we should have won the closed beta ''promised'' reward'', no one cared about this weeks ago till now..its just a childish attitude..

OGL Spade
02-13-2017, 07:11 PM
I was samurai fr closed beta, guess I don't get any fancy stuff. all well I'm fine with that.

DDSDevilDog
02-13-2017, 07:12 PM
Listen Gray, I don't need a lecture from you. Obviously you weren't on the Viking faction and were not in the CB, so it doesn't matter to you, so just knock off your mummy crap. We were told there was a reward for the winner, many thought they were getting something and now find out we're not. If you can't understand why we are disappointed than it is just because you are probably a Knoght and want to be a little snowflake who has his reward.

DDSDevilDog
02-13-2017, 07:15 PM
Where was this told before the CB ended? This is the first I have heard of it, so if they made it clear before the end of the CB than that's fine.

VanBaal42
02-13-2017, 07:15 PM
look, if they decided to change the rewards from closed beta before the end of the closed beta, no one would mind the results and no one would mind the change, but now that vikings lost open beta war, and there is a reward for the open beta, they are spreading tears across the internet..''now that we lost the open beta war, we should have won the closed beta ''promised'' reward'', no one cared about this weeks ago till now..its just a childish attitude..
I've seen enough posts where vikings asked for the reward winning the cb before the open beta was even announced.

Twisted-Karma
02-13-2017, 07:17 PM
LoL, are people still really that upset they didn't win the emblem outline ?

g0dh8zu
02-13-2017, 07:20 PM
I am not sure why anyone is thinking that they changed their mind about what they said, or that the vikings arent getting a reward for winning the closed beta. They said from the begining that the winner of the closed beta would get a reward in retail as well as the faction that wins the open beta. This information was even in the email they sent after the closed beta ended saying the results were in. They did not change anything Vikings and Knights are both getting something.

davedxd
02-13-2017, 07:21 PM
I've seen enough posts where vikings asked for the reward winning the cb before the open beta was even announced.

ask is one thing, the amount of tears in less than 1 day is crazy...they asked and they were told to move on, it was a better reward for open beta, and they moved on, until now..

davedxd
02-13-2017, 07:22 PM
I am not sure why anyone is thinking that they changed their mind about what they said, or that the vikings arent getting a reward for winning the closed beta. They said from the begining that the winner of the closed beta would get a reward in retail as well as the faction that wins the open beta. This information was even in the email they sent after the closed beta ended saying the results were in. They did not change anything Vikings and Knights are both getting something.

if what you are saying is right, whats all the tears about?

VanBaal42
02-13-2017, 07:28 PM
So why not cancel the OB reward too?

pppever
02-13-2017, 07:28 PM
http://i.imgur.com/kDjouFy.jpg

Ex__Machina
02-13-2017, 07:30 PM
meh i chose vikings in closed but i really don't care. i mean what kind of reward do you want?

i wont' ever use the emblem. given of those caches is MEH at best

do you want a border so you won't feel ****ty every time you see someone sporting the gold frames?

davedxd
02-13-2017, 07:35 PM
http://i.imgur.com/kDjouFy.jpg

i didnt understand the image, lol..

NukeOfficial_
02-13-2017, 07:39 PM
Vikings won 3 Battles (tech test, CB and Showmatch Tournament) and get NOTHING, Knights win 1 Battle (OB) and get a reward as ONLY faction.

THAT and just that is the Problem.

Aidie2005
02-13-2017, 07:48 PM
Where is the source where ubi states Vikings wont get the the CBT reward?

If this is true then i personally believe Ubisoft shouldn't of said anything about rewarding the winning faction in cbt.

Yes decisions can be changed, but Ubi wouls of known that the CBT was going to be limited to a certain amount of players, if they changed it because it was "unfair to players who didn't get into the cbt" then like i said ubi shouldn't of said anything and saved the additional rewards for OBT.

I am not too fussed about the rewards though ill be fine with my deluxe edition and season pass rewards.

People need to stop insulting each other, stfu, wait for the game to release tomorrow and enjoy yourselves

davedxd
02-13-2017, 07:51 PM
well, now that you mentioned it, i wanna know the source aswell..

NukeOfficial_
02-13-2017, 07:55 PM
Where is the source where ubi states Vikings wont get the the CBT reward?

If this is true then i personally believe Ubisoft shouldn't of said anything about rewarding the winning faction in cbt.

Yes decisions can be changed, but Ubi wouls of known that the CBT was going to be limited to a certain amount of players, if they changed it because it was "unfair to players who didn't get into the cbt" then like i said ubi shouldn't of said anything and saved the additional rewards for OBT.

I am not too fussed about the rewards though ill be fine with my deluxe edition and season pass rewards.

People need to stop insulting each other, stfu, wait for the game to release tomorrow and enjoy yourselves

on the website forhonorgame.com/war it showed the three exclusive CBT rewards (emblems) and the text said the Victor will recieve the emblem of the olds or smth like that, aswell as more glorious stuff is coming soon (those are the golden power frames). When the open beta released they updated the Website so that the Victors of the open beta will get an exclusive reward, and that EVERYONE in the closed beta will get an emblem.

NukeOfficial_
02-13-2017, 07:59 PM
Btw.. i played the ( TT , closed beta and open beta ) and always used the Gold Borders for my viking emblems... Where that Gold border come from?

Every factions has 1 gold borders by default i guess?

Those are different gold borders, those are available to everyone (I think)

g0dh8zu
02-13-2017, 08:02 PM
Well i tried finding the email i received at the end of closed beta posting the results from the war of the factions. In there they said all participants will be getting the emblem, however, they also stated that the victor of the faction war in both the closed and open beta will be getting a reward. This was straight from Ubisoft. I believe that people are seeing that they mention the knights getting a reward for winning the open beta faction war, but they do not have any mention of the vikings winning closed beta so they are making assumptions that we wont be getting anything. You guys will see tomorrow. if i find that email i'll post it for you all.

whovie
02-13-2017, 09:37 PM
But they promised, but they promised ... waaaaaaaaa .... but they promised. Broken record.

I was in the CA, the CB and the OB (not relevant) but was never a Viking (not relevant).

This isn't about what I played or what faction I was. It's about grown men acting like toddlers because they didn't get a bit of superficial fluff, that wasn't even in a full game, when they were already exceptionally lucky to even be in that CB in the first place. It's about insane levels of entitlement and the desperate need to grow the hell up and stop acting like a baby.

Be dissapointed, fine. Don't whine like a 3 year old for days on the forums over it.

Look, I think a good test of how big a problem like this is, is what I think of as the 'work colleague test'
(doesn't work so well if you work with loads of gamers / Vikings).

There are 2 parts to the test.
First would you even dare to mention it at work to 'normal' people

a) Yes it's a valid important issue that others will understand
b) No it's far too silly and I would be embarrassed to even mention it

If you could go to work tomorrow and tell your colleagues about your problem would they:

a) sympathise and fully agree that its bad and you are right to be upset
b) laugh you out of the building and tell you to grow up / get a life / get out more

So, would you go to work tomorrow and tell them that you are really upset today because you played this beta of a game and your Viking won but you're not getting your prize? :D

See how childish it all is when you think of it like that?

But yeah, I know, they 'promised' .... waaaaaa

Talk about broken record, you piss and moan more about other people than anybody else on these forums. Why do you get so upset about what other people say? Is it not childish to constantly mock everyone? Because it seems pretty childish to me. Don't mistake my intentions either, I don't care about an award. Just some hypocrite acting like a child by mocking people who he thinks are childish. Practice what you preach and grow up.

Wiillythakiid
02-13-2017, 09:46 PM
But they promised, but they promised ... waaaaaaaaa .... but they promised. Broken record.

I was in the CA, the CB and the OB (not relevant) but was never a Viking (not relevant).

This isn't about what I played or what faction I was. It's about grown men acting like toddlers because they didn't get a bit of superficial fluff, that wasn't even in a full game, when they were already exceptionally lucky to even be in that CB in the first place. It's about insane levels of entitlement and the desperate need to grow the hell up and stop acting like a baby.

Be dissapointed, fine. Don't whine like a 3 year old for days on the forums over it.

Look, I think a good test of how big a problem like this is, is what I think of as the 'work colleague test'
(doesn't work so well if you work with loads of gamers / Vikings).

There are 2 parts to the test.
First would you even dare to mention it at work to 'normal' people

a) Yes it's a valid important issue that others will understand
b) No it's far too silly and I would be embarrassed to even mention it

If you could go to work tomorrow and tell your colleagues about your problem would they:

a) sympathise and fully agree that its bad and you are right to be upset
b) laugh you out of the building and tell you to grow up / get a life / get out more

So, would you go to work tomorrow and tell them that you are really upset today because you played this beta of a game and your Viking won but you're not getting your prize? :D

See how childish it all is when you think of it like that?

But yeah, I know, they 'promised' .... waaaaaa

Gray, thank you for acknowledging that the Vikings have a reason to be disappointed, but this is not whining. This is about receiving a reward for something that Ubisoft took the time to develop and publish on several official fronts stating that they will be offering a reward to the winning faction. This is not a case where a friend told a friend who told another friend that works at Ubisoft that the winner MAY be getting a reward. I see how you can perceive this as people whining and feeling entitled, but this is a matter of being straight out lied to.

g0dh8zu
02-13-2017, 09:47 PM
Lemme guess, you're a Viking? :D

Lemme guess, your 12?

whovie
02-13-2017, 09:49 PM
Lemme guess, you're a Viking? :D

Jesus, you're a tool. Thanks for proving my point.

C4kie
02-13-2017, 09:57 PM
im pretty sure that when u agree to something, you know that things can change, especially if its a beta, they can tell you that they are going to nerf a class, and then they decide that they won't, cause its better the way it already is, are you going to cry over the nerf that didnt happen ? no, you move on, you realize that the decision they made is probably cause they think its for the best...all these people crying over that emblem must have 15 years old or less..

God damn are you legally ******ed mate?

We didn't agree to getting a reward for winning the Closed Beta, we were PROMISED a reward for winning the Closed Beta. Don't be butthurt just because you're too **** at playing games to get into a closed beta mate, it's pathetic what you're doing right now.

The.Odee
02-13-2017, 09:57 PM
Jesus, you're a tool. Thanks for proving my point.
Funny, I actually used the same word to describe him in a completely different thread.

Wiillythakiid
02-13-2017, 10:07 PM
Honestly though, is there no part where just being part of the Closed Beta was a reward, and while its a minor dissapointment and a bit of a shame, thats all it is?
Is it really serious?
I had people flooding my inbox with requests for Closed Beta codes when I posted that I had 3 to give out, people were desperate to get into that Beta, many never made it.
I totally get people are a bit fed up. But c'mon, theres a point at which you acknowledge you were well ahead just being in the CB in the first place and call it a day, surely.
They shifted the goalposts, don't think for a minute I don't understand any aspect of what happened.
But the complaints are out of proportion to the seriousness of the issue.
If people had paid for anything, fine.
If they ever told us anything like 'buy the deluxe version and get an emblem' and we didn't get it, I'd be first in line with my 'I hate Ubisoft' banner.
But this was free CB.
Anyway, not gonna keep replying, that truly is just adding fuel to the fire and letting people target me with their rage instead of Ubisoft.

Speaking for myself, yes it is that serious. I understand that this was a closed beta and that I was selected among hundreds of thousands, but since it appears you favor analogies, this situation is very similar to applying for a job where you are explicitly told that you will be getting a bonus for being a top performer, getting the job, becoming top performer and then being told your not going to get paid but you should value the experience you received because they didn't select everyone that applied.