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UbisoftClaims
02-13-2017, 02:39 PM
So will there be a way to buy steel on release so i can get all the cool cosmetic upgrades asap or will i have to grind for weeks to make my guy look pretty. there was a video of a guy on youtube who got into the game early and the prices for the cosmetic upgrades was something like 15k steel and im very impatient https://youtu.be/0ImVh7AIcnM?t=293

RabidUrko
02-13-2017, 02:41 PM
Earn it and play the game.

Ragnar---
02-13-2017, 02:46 PM
Mythic outfits cost 15000 steel?.. If we're getting 40 steel a game.that's 375 games without daily quests. That seems like a mobile game.

ausknipsr
02-13-2017, 02:48 PM
Mythic outfits cost 15000 steel?.. If we're getting 40 steel a game.that's 375 games without daily quests. That seems like a mobile game.

i dont think so. i really like the fact that you have to go through a lot of time and blood and tears to achieve something special. in this case, mythic outfits.

Ragnar---
02-13-2017, 02:51 PM
i dont think so. i really like the fact that you have to go through a lot of time and blood and tears to achieve something special. in this case, mythic outfits.

It can still be special without it taking forever to unlock. To get every mythic skin presuming there are only two per class, you would need to play 6750 games of Dominion.. lol. wtf.

UbisoftClaims
02-13-2017, 02:53 PM
but a lot of us are whales who are lazy and impatient if its only cosmetics i feel it would be good for the game think of it like buying skins in league or something having the different tiers range from 10 dollars and all the way up depending on what they add a max of 30bucks

Ragnar---
02-13-2017, 02:56 PM
but a lot of us are whales who are lazy and impatient if its only cosmetics i feel it would be good for the game think of it like buying skins in league or something having the different tiers range from 10 dollars and all the way up depending on what they add a max of 30bucks

Ye I understand you people will buy this stuff. It's just a massive shame that the game is clearly balanced on paying for the steel rather than earning it.

UbisoftClaims
02-13-2017, 03:09 PM
we never know we might be able to earn alot more steel in game through other ways that we didn't have in the beta the guy said you got steel and some cosmetics from completing story mode and maybe they will make the daily missions refresh faster

Done_DL
02-13-2017, 03:16 PM
You can buy steel, i'm looking at the packs in the Australian playstation store, so prices will be Aussie Dollarydoos

5000 steel - $7.55
11000 steel - $14.95
25000 steel - $29.95
65000 steel - $75.95
150000 steel - $150.95

UbisoftClaims
02-13-2017, 03:27 PM
You can buy steel, i'm looking at the packs in the Australian playstation store, so prices will be Aussie Dollarydoos

5000 steel - $7.55
11000 steel - $14.95
25000 steel - $29.95
65000 steel - $75.95
150000 steel - $150.95

thanks for the update that doesn't sound that bad when i do the conversions its pretty reasonable

Ragnar---
02-13-2017, 03:33 PM
You can buy steel, i'm looking at the packs in the Australian playstation store, so prices will be Aussie Dollarydoos

5000 steel - $7.55
11000 steel - $14.95
25000 steel - $29.95
65000 steel - $75.95
150000 steel - $150.95

I really hope there is a 4v4 gamemode without gear. I wonder how Ubisoft can justify selling statted gear and I wonder why nobody cares, yet Call of Duty did it and people were up in arms.

ScarIette
02-13-2017, 03:54 PM
I really hope there is a 4v4 gamemode without gear. I wonder how Ubisoft can justify selling statted gear and I wonder why nobody cares, yet Call of Duty did it and people were up in arms.

Baffling, isn't it? The worst part is when people tell you to just avoid stat modes despite the fact that most of the dailies require them. You can pay real money to get an advantage. Maybe people will see how bad it is when the full game launches and the whales whip their wallets out.

TaurusWildSpeak
02-13-2017, 03:57 PM
I wish they stop doing that. It's a 60$ game, they should be able to balance the credit you earn and the cost of gear so it doesn't feel overwhelming without the need to buy with real money. Come on now.

UbisoftClaims
02-13-2017, 03:57 PM
Baffling, isn't it? The worst part is when people tell you to just avoid stat modes despite the fact that most of the dailies require them. You can pay real money to get an advantage. Maybe people will see how bad it is when the full game launches and the whales whip their wallets out.

oh yeah you can buy the scavenger packs with steel completely forgot about that maybe if they want to sell cosmetics they should make a second currency for it so people can buy the new currency that can only be used on cosmetics and make it so that steel can be used on both cosmetics and scavenger packs

Zv1k0
02-13-2017, 03:58 PM
Its very bad and it shouldnt be this way. It would be alright if you couldnt get any advantage like its in league of legennds for example.

AveImperator85
02-13-2017, 03:58 PM
I really hope there is a 4v4 gamemode without gear. I wonder how Ubisoft can justify selling statted gear and I wonder why nobody cares, yet Call of Duty did it and people were up in arms.

It's called Elimination. Secondly, you can't buy gear, you can buy loot crates...with Steel...that drop random loot for your current level. You're not going to see a lvl 1 Warden with lvl 30 Epics because there's no way for that to happen. He can buy all the loot crates he wants, he's still going to only get low-level grays, so I'm not really seeing the problem here.

Buying Steel is hardly a Pay-to-Win setup. It's more akin to MOBA cash shops to let people buy cosmetics like Skins and Executions. If you're dumb enough to drop $150 on loot crates because you think it's going to give you a leg up...well, enjoy your 800 gray trash items.

The_B0G_
02-13-2017, 04:01 PM
I've beaten people with 20+ gear level with starting gear before, I don't mind them selling in game currency, it still doesn't make you good at the game.

It just gives guys who don't have the time to put into the game because of work a chance to compete with kids who play 8 hours a day.

DrExtrem
02-13-2017, 04:05 PM
Impatient you say.

Lets play some duels wallet warrior. ;)

Arkhos1988
02-13-2017, 04:06 PM
God, the money cry, equipment means **** and does not much from what i saw so far. You wana look pretty, how about dont look like a corps.
The only real advantage from what i see is a seasonpass, so you can learn champs ahead of time, rest means nothing. As we also have seen for every honor lv there comes a new equipment lv so you dont get anything better than lv6 on a 0 honor char, so no pay to win, pay to get a stat boost that barely matters.

DrExtrem
02-13-2017, 04:23 PM
From what I have seen, better gear is only better in one or two departments.

The downside is, that it becomes nearly useless in the other ones.

The "better" gear, is in fact only more specialised gear, that will most likely be more problematic for the players, who can't compensate the downsides, while getting the most use out of it.

Let all the wallet warriors buy great gear ... most if them will not know how to take advantage out of it anyway.

Cro0kers
02-13-2017, 04:44 PM
well if luckily you loot the sword that buffs attack, you can pay to win to upgrade it to the max instead of grinding, making a clear advantage straight.

Thanks for that Ubi, let's just ruin all balance with pay to win. If only it was cosmetics like rainbow six. But no, you had to be greedy init...

AveImperator85
02-13-2017, 04:46 PM
well if luckily you loot the sword that buffs attack, you can pay to win to upgrade it to the max instead of grinding, making a clear advantage straight.

Thanks for that Ubi, let's just ruin all balance with pay to win. If only it was cosmetics like rainbow six. But no, you had to be greedy init...

It may buff Attack, but it's going to TANK your Defense and Stamina Cost, so it's a tradeoff, not a clear advantage. Stop spreading misinformation and fearmongering, scrub, and git gud.

theromanticswb
02-13-2017, 04:46 PM
Mythic outfits cost 15000 steel?.. If we're getting 40 steel a game.that's 375 games without daily quests. That seems like a mobile game.

It's not that bad really. I mean considering Mythic is like the end all be all for expensive items, you can get 15000 steel within the first 20 to 25 hours of gameplay if you don't spend it on other stuff. I don't see a problem.

Prior_Heahmund
02-13-2017, 04:52 PM
If you can buy steel that means you can buy Scavenger chests. If you are willing to fork over the cash you get an advantage. Pay-to-win on a AAA title is inexcusable, and I hope that as gamers we say no.

theromanticswb
02-13-2017, 04:55 PM
I don't understand what you guys are talking about. No one in here, except one guy, understands how this system works at all.

1. You cannot buy high level gear. PERIOD.
2. You can ONLY buy crates which give you random gear drops for that one character.
3. The drops are based on your Reputation level on that one character. *Reputation 0, level 1-6 gear (does basically nothing, all for looks really). *Reputation 1, (takes a good 10 to 15 hours of gameplay to hit) level 7-12. *Reputation 3, (takes a good 40+ hours to get to), level 13-18'ish. And so on.
4. There is matchmaking. The game tries to match you with players at similar gear levels. If someone buys as much gear as possible at say, reputation 1, they might have a total gear level of like 42'ish. they will get in matches against others with similar.
5. Gear ONLY COUNTS in 4v4 modes. It doesn't do anything 2v2's and 1v1's which is where the real competitive scene happens.

TLDR: Buying steel is a waste of money. It doesn't do anything to make you OP because gear doesn't make you OP anyway. It's almost a placebo.

AveImperator85
02-13-2017, 04:56 PM
If you can buy steel that means you can buy Scavenger chests. If you are willing to fork over the cash you get an advantage. Pay-to-win on a AAA title is inexcusable, and I hope that as gamers we say no.

This again? You haven't played the game at all, have you? Scavenger crates get you gear appropriate to your Hero's level. So a level 1 Warden, for example, is still only going to get low-level gray trash items. How exactly is that Pay-to-Win? Gear isn't necessarily an advantage, it just allows you to tweak your playstyle because every item has a tradeoff. This blade may increase your Attack, but it's going to DECREASE your Defense.

Learn about the game before you spread misinformation.

theromanticswb
02-13-2017, 04:56 PM
If you can buy steel that means you can buy Scavenger chests. If you are willing to fork over the cash you get an advantage. Pay-to-win on a AAA title is inexcusable, and I hope that as gamers we say no.

No you can't. Read my post.

UbisoftClaims
02-13-2017, 05:00 PM
well i learned all i need from this thread and I'm agreeing with everyone who knows that you have to lvl up before buying crates gives you any form of advantage but i will be that guy with mythic cosmetics as soon as the game starts no problem in having a cool looking warrior at the start of the game

Ragnar---
02-13-2017, 05:02 PM
Here's a question for you people; How much extra Steel do you get from the Champion status and if four of my friend had it, would the bonus for Steel stack?.

AveImperator85
02-13-2017, 05:03 PM
Here's a question for you people; How much extra Steel do you get from the Champion status and if four of my friend had it, would the bonus for Steel stack?.

None, because Champion status only gives a bonus to XP gain and loot drops. It doesn't affect Steel gain.

Prior_Heahmund
02-13-2017, 05:04 PM
I played the entire beta, and what I saw was simple. After the event people got two chest. With mine it was level 7 blues in the last two drops. So what did I do with all the steel I did not spend? I bought more chests- equipped what I wanted and broke the rest down. Whats to stop people from using the currency they get from dissembling equipment to upgrade their current items?

theromanticswb
02-13-2017, 05:06 PM
I played the entire beta, and what I saw was simple. After the event people got two chest. With mine it was level 7 blues in the last two drops. So what did I do with all the steel I did not spend? I bought more chests- equipped what I wanted and broke the rest down. Whats to stop people from using the currency they get from dissembling equipment to upgrade their current items?

READ THE THREAD.

I'm going to keep responding with this until people understand there is no possibility of pay to win in this game. It just doesn't function like that.

I don't understand what you guys are talking about. No one in here, except one guy, understands how this system works at all.

1. You cannot buy high level gear. PERIOD.
2. You can ONLY buy crates which give you random gear drops for that one character.
3. The drops are based on your Reputation level on that one character. *Reputation 0, level 1-6 gear (does basically nothing, all for looks really). *Reputation 1, (takes a good 10 to 15 hours of gameplay to hit) level 7-12. *Reputation 3, (takes a good 40+ hours to get to), level 13-18'ish. And so on.
4. There is matchmaking. The game tries to match you with players at similar gear levels. If someone buys as much gear as possible at say, reputation 1, they might have a total gear level of like 42'ish. they will get in matches against others with similar.
5. Gear ONLY COUNTS in 4v4 modes. It doesn't do anything 2v2's and 1v1's which is where the real competitive scene happens.

TLDR: Buying steel is a waste of money. It doesn't do anything to make you OP because gear doesn't make you OP anyway. It's almost a placebo.

AveImperator85
02-13-2017, 05:08 PM
I played the entire beta, and what I saw was simple. After the event people got two chest. With mine it was level 7 blues in the last two drops. So what did I do with all the steel I did not spend? I bought more chests- equipped what I wanted and broke the rest down. Whats to stop people from using the currency they get from dissembling equipment to upgrade their current items?

Nothing. That's how the game is designed. It still doesn't give you and clear advantage over others of the same Reputation level. If you got lvl 7 blues from your Event crates, you were probably at least Rep 1, going against others of similar reputation and gear level. You have a small chance of getting those drops after a match anyway. So you upgrade them, so what? All it does is further increase what's already boosted and further decrease what's already penalized.

I'm still not seeing the problem here. Buying Steel is mostly gonna be for those who don't want to grind out 7000+ Steel for Executions and outfits. I, for one, will certainly be buying some Steel because I want that sweet, sweet Impaler execution for my Lawbringer...but I can buy all the crates in the world and not get higher level gear than my Lawbringer's level, so to do so would just be stupid and shows a clear lack of understanding about how the loot system in this game works.

Damage_Incorp
02-13-2017, 05:20 PM
I dont understand people who pay a game with minimal content then they're looking forward to be milked even more for a couple of cosmetics.

If people like you werent so eager to throw their $$ then maybe companies wouldnt have microtransactions and rng case gambling scams everywhere

J4NT5A
02-13-2017, 05:28 PM
READ THE THREAD.

I'm going to keep responding with this until people understand there is no possibility of pay to win in this game. It just doesn't function like that.

I don't understand what you guys are talking about. No one in here, except one guy, understands how this system works at all.

1. You cannot buy high level gear. PERIOD.
2. You can ONLY buy crates which give you random gear drops for that one character.
3. The drops are based on your Reputation level on that one character. *Reputation 0, level 1-6 gear (does basically nothing, all for looks really). *Reputation 1, (takes a good 10 to 15 hours of gameplay to hit) level 7-12. *Reputation 3, (takes a good 40+ hours to get to), level 13-18'ish. And so on.
4. There is matchmaking. The game tries to match you with players at similar gear levels. If someone buys as much gear as possible at say, reputation 1, they might have a total gear level of like 42'ish. they will get in matches against others with similar.
5. Gear ONLY COUNTS in 4v4 modes. It doesn't do anything 2v2's and 1v1's which is where the real competitive scene happens.

TLDR: Buying steel is a waste of money. It doesn't do anything to make you OP because gear doesn't make you OP anyway. It's almost a placebo.

40+ hours for rep 3??? I ended up with 28-29 hours in the beta and i was almost rep 4 and after i had gear score of 84 i still got matched in elimination with people having gear score less than 25. I only got one match where there was someone with gearscore of 86

Prior_Heahmund
02-13-2017, 05:28 PM
Nothing. That's how the game is designed. It still doesn't give you and clear advantage over others of the same Reputation level. If you got lvl 7 blues from your Event crates, you were probably at least Rep 1, going against others of similar reputation and gear level. You have a small chance of getting those drops after a match anyway. So you upgrade them, so what? All it does is further increase what's already boosted and further decrease what's already penalized.

I'm still not seeing the problem here. Buying Steel is mostly gonna be for those who don't want to grind out 7000+ Steel for Executions and outfits. I, for one, will certainly be buying some Steel because I want that sweet, sweet Impaler execution for my Lawbringer...but I can buy all the crates in the world and not get higher level gear than my Lawbringer's level, so to do so would just be stupid and shows a clear lack of understanding about how the loot system in this game works.

People with passion are so easy to troll. Fact is I don't care if people buy steel. In truth my only concern is what happens when the powers-that-be figure out another source of revenue and go another step.