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pdog1
03-08-2004, 08:18 PM
Currently its 150 rounds per gun.
Finnish G50s used 300 rounds per gun, i belive you made small error in calculations of 300 rounds for total ammo, thanks.

pdog1
03-08-2004, 08:18 PM
Currently its 150 rounds per gun.
Finnish G50s used 300 rounds per gun, i belive you made small error in calculations of 300 rounds for total ammo, thanks.

rbstr44
03-08-2004, 08:58 PM
I think you have a double post thing going.

[edit: Okay. No problem, then. Hopefully, you will get an answer to one of the posts.]

[This message was edited by rbstr44 on Tue March 09 2004 at 04:28 AM.]

pdog1
03-08-2004, 09:01 PM
yeah sry, didn't see the first one so i reposted

SUPERAEREO
03-09-2004, 03:11 AM
Bump!

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rbstr44
03-09-2004, 05:27 AM
I just read where a second person has also reported this--in the big AEP bug thread: http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?q=Y&a=tpc&s=400102&f=63110913&m=141109652&p=6

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pdog1
03-09-2004, 07:49 AM
bump for 300 rpg

mike_espo
03-09-2004, 09:31 AM
Ammo load seems right.....I can kill two gladiators with current load..... However, did the freccia have two airspeed indicators? Our version does. Is this a bug?

Did some offline firing tests. The breda 12.7mm could fire at 700rmp or 11.7rps. In AEP if can fire for 14 sec which gives 163 total rounds. I can't find any info on how many rounds the freccia carried for the bredas. But thats what we got....assuming the rof is modelled correctly.

[This message was edited by mike_espo on Tue March 09 2004 at 10:57 AM.]

pdog1
03-09-2004, 12:54 PM
cr42 also has 2 speedometers i think its right but would like correct 300 rpg for g50

mike_espo
03-09-2004, 01:27 PM
hey pdog1, is that the finnish version your referring to? I just checked my 1/48 scale Pacific Airframes kit and the notes say 300 rpg. Hmmmmmm. I guess we got a problem...

pdog1
03-09-2004, 01:54 PM
yep finnish version which is represented, most italians used G50bis, finns used G50 first series with 300rpg right

mike_espo
03-09-2004, 02:58 PM
Yeah, 300rpg would give about 10 more seconds of ammo. maybe enough to get that extra kill.....

pdog1
03-09-2004, 04:22 PM
yeah 300rpg would be more than enough and adequate, 150 is pathetic..

mike_espo
03-09-2004, 04:34 PM
Just played on an online dog server. Flew the Freccia and killed a spitfire. Still had ammo left. I love this plane.

Wetwilly87
03-09-2004, 04:44 PM
I just did some research also on the Freccia, both the G.50 and the G.50bis had 300 rpg, so I guess the rpm is off or something.

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JG53Frankyboy
03-09-2004, 06:15 PM
you can test the ammoload mucheasier:
start a dogfight offline , fly the plane and fire the guns you want to know till they are empty. than hit replay and fly another.
type in the chat box
>user STAT

and you see the amount of rounds you shoot before.

and making this test says exactly , firing the G.50 guns till they are empty 300rounds at all !
thats 150 rounds per gun - and that seems wrong.

same with the A6M2 (as mentioned on anothe rplace) you will get 250 rounds at all for the 20mm - thats 125 rounds per gun - should be 60rpg.

pdog1
03-09-2004, 07:40 PM
haha 1 plane to little ammo, another to much

pdog1
03-10-2004, 08:25 AM
Bump

JG53Frankyboy
03-10-2004, 08:40 AM
you can stop to bump it, oleg has email report , he answerd and they will check - and hopefully change it

Oleg_Maddox
03-10-2004, 09:01 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by pdog1:
Currently its 150 rounds per gun.
Finnish G50s used 300 rounds per gun, i belive you made small error in calculations of 300 rounds for total ammo, thanks.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Already fixed. Sorry for this. We got incorrect initial info.
In add-on will be fixed http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

SUPERAEREO
03-10-2004, 09:19 AM
Thank you Oleg!!! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/11.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

pdog1
03-10-2004, 10:33 AM
Right on Oleg. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

LEXX_Luthor
03-10-2004, 01:03 PM
Thanks Oleg and pdog1 http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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mike_espo
03-10-2004, 03:34 PM
Hey guys. I just read in "fighters" my Mike Spick that the g.50 did have 150rpg. Other sources claim that its 300rpg. ????

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LEXX_Luthor
03-10-2004, 08:13 PM
Yep, some internet sources say 300, some say 150. hmmm

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Jjjouk
03-11-2004, 12:35 AM
Nevertheless most of the documents show that correct amno is 300 rounds... Thanks to Oleg for fixing the bug in the upcoming patch ! Can't wait to fly with Finnish Air Force in G-50 with correct amno http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

CalleB
03-11-2004, 08:50 AM
According to pictures of the Finnish G50 there are two speed indicators. One to the right of the gun sight and the second on the left side of the gun sight below the RPM indicator.

Wetwilly87
03-18-2004, 05:05 PM
I know this is an old topic, but ive been doing alot of research on the G.50, and Ive come to some interesting conclusions.

Most of the G.50's recieved by the Finns were G.50bis's, the G.50 in the game is just the regular version. The diffrence bewtween the two is that the G.50bis is slightly longer, slightly shorter, had a different tail fin, and a couple other body fixes. It also has more fuel, increasing the Freccia's fuel range from 440 to 650, give or take a two KM's. Now Ive also have seen on websites that it had 150 RPG, and others 300 RPG. Now Im thinking that the G.50bis had 300 RPG, and the G.50 just had 150. Now to solve this, I think we need the G.50bis. Now it only takes a slight modification to the G.50 we have now, and it would help us out alittle by giving us a little bit more range on the plane. Its just a thought. I mean historical, the Finns had more G.50bis's than G.50's. I think that the Finns need a defult skin too. I got a historicaly accurate Finn skin from http://www.il2skins.com/ that makes it more realistic, but only I can have it in career mode. http://www.il2skins.com/?action=display&skinid=613 is a pic of the skin. Also it looks like we have only one regiment picture for the finns. This website has many good pictures of other Finnish regiments during the war.

http://www.sci.fi/~ambush/faf/fighters.html#fiiu

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