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MIG16
09-05-2004, 08:42 AM
A He111 that sunk in 1940 in the Jonsvatnet lake near Trondheim in Norway was raised this weekend. The aircraft is one of 5 that sank in the spring of 1940 during the invasion of Norway, when the Luftwaffe used lake Jonsvatnet as runway because Trondheim V√¬¶rnes airport was not usable. When the ice melted 5 aircraft broke trough and sank.

Here are some pics of the He111 I took today. A Ju88 will be raised later this week.

http://photobook.sol.no/show_image_stream.php?bid=12578410&dx=527&dy=395

http://photobook.sol.no/show_image_stream.php?bid=12578409&dx=527&dy=395

http://photobook.sol.no/show_image_stream.php?bid=12578408&dx=527&dy=395

http://photobook.sol.no/show_image_stream.php?bid=12578390&dx=527&dy=395

http://photobook.sol.no/show_image_stream.php?bid=12578389&dx=527&dy=395

http://photobook.sol.no/show_image_stream.php?bid=12578388&dx=527&dy=395

http://photobook.sol.no/show_image_stream.php?bid=12578387&dx=527&dy=395

http://photobook.sol.no/show_image_stream.php?bid=12578386&dx=527&dy=395

http://photobook.sol.no/show_image_stream.php?bid=12578385&dx=527&dy=395

http://photobook.sol.no/show_image_stream.php?bid=12578384&dx=527&dy=395

http://photobook.sol.no/show_image_stream.php?bid=12578383&dx=527&dy=395

http://photobook.sol.no/show_image_stream.php?bid=12578382&dx=527&dy=395

http://photobook.sol.no/show_image_stream.php?bid=12578381&dx=527&dy=395

Michael, Trondheim

MIG16
09-05-2004, 08:42 AM
A He111 that sunk in 1940 in the Jonsvatnet lake near Trondheim in Norway was raised this weekend. The aircraft is one of 5 that sank in the spring of 1940 during the invasion of Norway, when the Luftwaffe used lake Jonsvatnet as runway because Trondheim V√¬¶rnes airport was not usable. When the ice melted 5 aircraft broke trough and sank.

Here are some pics of the He111 I took today. A Ju88 will be raised later this week.

http://photobook.sol.no/show_image_stream.php?bid=12578410&dx=527&dy=395

http://photobook.sol.no/show_image_stream.php?bid=12578409&dx=527&dy=395

http://photobook.sol.no/show_image_stream.php?bid=12578408&dx=527&dy=395

http://photobook.sol.no/show_image_stream.php?bid=12578390&dx=527&dy=395

http://photobook.sol.no/show_image_stream.php?bid=12578389&dx=527&dy=395

http://photobook.sol.no/show_image_stream.php?bid=12578388&dx=527&dy=395

http://photobook.sol.no/show_image_stream.php?bid=12578387&dx=527&dy=395

http://photobook.sol.no/show_image_stream.php?bid=12578386&dx=527&dy=395

http://photobook.sol.no/show_image_stream.php?bid=12578385&dx=527&dy=395

http://photobook.sol.no/show_image_stream.php?bid=12578384&dx=527&dy=395

http://photobook.sol.no/show_image_stream.php?bid=12578383&dx=527&dy=395

http://photobook.sol.no/show_image_stream.php?bid=12578382&dx=527&dy=395

http://photobook.sol.no/show_image_stream.php?bid=12578381&dx=527&dy=395

Michael, Trondheim

h009291
09-05-2004, 08:54 AM
I guess the fuselage is upside down to protect the belly gunner position?

http://www.medals.org.uk/united-kingdom/images/uk654.jpg

BBB_Hyperion
09-05-2004, 08:57 AM
Thx for sharing. Looks like a long restauration http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif .

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MIG16
09-05-2004, 08:57 AM
I think it was laying upside down on the bottom.

Gooner01
09-05-2004, 09:01 AM
Michael, great pix - thanks for posting. Can't wait to get a look at the -88.

S! Gooner

MIG16
09-05-2004, 09:07 AM
Article in our local newspaper (in Norwegian I'm afraid):

http://www.adressa.no/trondheim/article.jhtml?articleID=506980

Some pics of the raising:
http://www.adressa.no/bildegallerier/article.jhtml?articleID=506976

The 96 year old pilot of the aircraft was present!

09-05-2004, 09:45 AM
cool pics.
look at the wings, they are huge

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v388/foxl_/me109g_1.jpg

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crazyivan1970
09-05-2004, 10:01 AM
Very cool, thanks for sharing.

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Fritzofn
09-05-2004, 10:46 AM
Norwegian: Genial bilde serie, skulle gjerne vert med p√¬• restaureringen av skj√¬łnnheten.

English: Enginious picture series, would love to join inn the restauration work of that beutiy :-)

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Red_Russian13
09-05-2004, 11:52 AM
Awesome! Thanks for sharing with us. It would be very interesting to be a part of such an event.

Red Russian

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tHeBaLrOgRoCkS
09-05-2004, 04:15 PM
Kewl pictures, thanks for sharing http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v323/tHeBaLrOgRoCkS/planes/signiture3.jpg

hotspace
09-07-2004, 08:22 AM
Excellent Pics http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

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I16fan
09-07-2004, 08:36 AM
supert! hadde ingen anelse av at vingen var s√¬• tjukk http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

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JG301_nils
09-07-2004, 09:18 AM
Flotte bilder, takker i16 http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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Skarphol
09-07-2004, 12:49 PM
Does any of you guys know the future fate of these planes? I've read in one thread here on the forum that they are going to Germany in trade for an F-104 Starfighter. That seems unlikely as Starfighters are available in large numbers all over the world, I know of 4 of them in Norway alone. And a Starfighter is not worth these two planes!
I've heard that the Germans will restuarate (spelling?) both this Ju-88 and the -88 that was raised last summer and then give one of them back to the museum at Gardermoen, Norway. Don't know if this is true either, and the story doesn't count for the He-111.
Does anyone have any further information?

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p1ngu666
09-07-2004, 01:25 PM
nice thanks for sharing http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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woofiedog
09-07-2004, 03:16 PM
http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-surprised.gifThank's for the Photo Links! Unbelieveable pictures.
It amazes me that these aircraft pulled from swamps and lakes are in such great shape.
The Viking Ship painted on the aircraft is almost new.
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Abel29A
09-07-2004, 03:28 PM
Skarphol: According to what I have read in the local newspaper the he 111 is going to Deutsche Teknikmuseum in Berlin - which seems fair considering them paying for the whole operation, but the Ju 88 will probably remain in Norway and be restored here. They already have a Ju 88 at Gardemoen which will be shipped to Germany, as that one is in worse conditions.

The story can be read here: http://www.adressa.no/nyheter/article.jhtml?articleID=506625 (in norwegian)

EDIT. Here is a small gallery of pictures form the JU 88 being raised. Neste means next btw :=)
http://www.adressa.no/bildegallerier/article.jhtml?articleID=507819

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WUAF_WarWeapon2
09-07-2004, 04:11 PM
Can someone say that those Krauts got PWNED?

Skarphol
09-08-2004, 01:07 AM
Thanks Abel!

The state of that Ju-88 is really amazing! I allmost can't beleive that the airframe is that litle corroded after 64 years under water.

Skarphol

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fherathras
09-08-2004, 01:27 AM
ooo... skulle √¬łnske jeg kunne v√¬¶re med p√¬• noe s√¬•nt!

Hiriyu
09-08-2004, 01:29 AM
You won't see much corrosion or oxidation of steel or aluminum so long as it's kept underwater - there's typically not a whole lot of free oxygen [required for oxidation] in the depths of static bodies of water. Once you remove it from the water though, you need to start preservation efforts immediately.

woofiedog
09-08-2004, 02:54 AM
http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-surprised.gifGreat picture of the Dive Brakes on the JU 88.
http://www.adressa.no/multimedia/archive/00186/IMG_2267_186498a.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v438/woofiedog/WOOFIEDOG.jpg

Friendly_flyer
09-08-2004, 03:06 AM
The papers say all magnesium parts are long gone. What was made of magnesium on a plane like the He-111?

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Skarphol
09-08-2004, 04:08 AM
As far as I know, are the attachmentpoints for the enginemounts and undercarriage made of magnesium. I think the reason for this is that magnesium is easy to shape and very stiff. I know that the wheelsuspension on formula 1-cars often is mase out of magnesium.

Skarphol

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xanty
09-08-2004, 04:30 AM
Brilliant news! I am excited to the prospect of having these two unvaluable birds restored and looked after. I will indeed try to get the the he-111 and compare...:-)

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