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Das_alte_leid
04-30-2004, 11:38 AM
Hey all.

Just saw the developement update. Wow guys, it really is amazing what Oleg and Co. are giving us and FREE aswell!

Anyway, my question is this:
In the Dev. I saw a Yak-9UT. Now I've done a vit of research (Yakovlev Aircraft by Gunston and Gordon), and have discovered that there were a few variants of the -9UT. There was a single prototype armed with 1xN-37 (30rds) through the prop spinner, and 2xB-20S (120rds each). However, the 282 series aircraft were armed with 1xNS-23 + 2xB-20S. My question is Which version are we getting. Logically you would have thought the latter, but... you never know, eh?

Later it says:
'In the final week of the war a Yak-9UT regiment destroyed twenty-seven Fw 190s and a Bf 109 for the loss of two aircraft.'
Not bad, huh?

Any reply would be appreciated.
A big thank you to Oleg and Co., to crazyivan for keeping order, and to all of you.

Zwitter raus...

Das_alte_leid
04-30-2004, 11:38 AM
Hey all.

Just saw the developement update. Wow guys, it really is amazing what Oleg and Co. are giving us and FREE aswell!

Anyway, my question is this:
In the Dev. I saw a Yak-9UT. Now I've done a vit of research (Yakovlev Aircraft by Gunston and Gordon), and have discovered that there were a few variants of the -9UT. There was a single prototype armed with 1xN-37 (30rds) through the prop spinner, and 2xB-20S (120rds each). However, the 282 series aircraft were armed with 1xNS-23 + 2xB-20S. My question is Which version are we getting. Logically you would have thought the latter, but... you never know, eh?

Later it says:
'In the final week of the war a Yak-9UT regiment destroyed twenty-seven Fw 190s and a Bf 109 for the loss of two aircraft.'
Not bad, huh?

Any reply would be appreciated.
A big thank you to Oleg and Co., to crazyivan for keeping order, and to all of you.

Zwitter raus...

CaptainGelo
04-30-2004, 11:40 AM
here u go...I would translate it, but no time:P (http://www.airwar.ru/enc/fww2/yak9ut.html)

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koivis
04-30-2004, 11:52 AM
How do you do that Oleg? Tell me please! Can I see what IE version you have?

Red_Russian13
04-30-2004, 11:54 AM
I'd translate it...but it take me a bloody week!

Just took a Russian 207 exam...vocab, no problem! Grammer...forget it! I suck!

Maybe someday I'll do the language justice...for now I'll continue to butcher it.

Red Russian

CaptainGelo
04-30-2004, 11:55 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by koivis:
How do you do that Oleg? Tell me please! Can I see what IE version you have?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>¨

its magic http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/59.gif

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plane is 2slow, guns are 2weak and DM suck?...Then click here (http://www.hmp16.com/hotstuff/downloads/Justin%20Timberlake%20-%20Cry%20Me%20A%20River.mp3)

Fear british army. (http://216.144.230.195/Videos/Medium_WMP8/British_Attack.wmv)

Blair and Bush got a thing together (http://216.144.230.195/Videos/Medium_WMP8/Endless_Love.wmv)



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LEXX_Luthor
04-30-2004, 11:56 AM
No we can't.

I don't like your sig 86, but the reactions to that sig are *priceless* http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/11.gif

For the Panicked simmers among us, don't worry, most who use that for internet webboard sig get bored with it after a few days or, at worst, weeks, and then its back to the usual airplane sig or something (I wonder what real life pilots painted on their planes lol).


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MOH_HEATER_
04-30-2004, 12:15 PM
This is kinda neat!

If your running Norton's firewall,go into internet zone control. Click restricted and add www.danasoft.com (http://www.danasoft.com).
Blocks that sig.

adadaead
04-30-2004, 12:57 PM
I speak russina very good i could translate. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif



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ZG77_Nagual
04-30-2004, 01:05 PM
my bet is on the version with 2x 20mm and 1x23mm

TheKetamineKid
04-30-2004, 02:01 PM
wow...another yak...just what we wanted. The community has been looking forward to this since....oooohh never.


THIS IS WHY ITS FREE.

"Full real? How can you call it full real when you're still using auto-pitch on that 109...now get your coat and p**s off back to Crimson Skies!"

CaptainGelo
04-30-2004, 02:10 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by TheKetamineKid:
wow...another yak...just what we wanted. The community has been looking forward to this since....oooohh never.


THIS IS WHY ITS FREE.

"Full real? How can you call it full real when you're still using auto-pitch on that 109...now get your coat and p**s off back to Crimson Skies!"<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

u know what..I'm **** tired to see u with this kined of post tard...so ****off..

and u'r total noob here and u just freaking crying about everything,u have been here monthe? and I'm already hate u... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/crazy.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/52.gif

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plane is 2slow, guns are 2weak and DM suck?...Then click here (http://www.hmp16.com/hotstuff/downloads/Justin%20Timberlake%20-%20Cry%20Me%20A%20River.mp3)

Fear british army. (http://216.144.230.195/Videos/Medium_WMP8/British_Attack.wmv)

Blair and Bush got a thing together (http://216.144.230.195/Videos/Medium_WMP8/Endless_Love.wmv)



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WUAF_Badsight
04-30-2004, 02:14 PM
TheKetamineKid speaks for HIMSELF ONLY http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/51.gif

ElAurens
04-30-2004, 03:25 PM
The 37mm variant, be sure....

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BuzzU
04-30-2004, 03:36 PM
A 9U with a big cannon. Sounds pretty deadly.

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Spectre-63
04-30-2004, 03:59 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by TheKetamineKid:
wow...another yak...just what we wanted. The community has been looking forward to this since....oooohh never.


THIS IS WHY ITS FREE.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

OOoh...anyone else remember those "this is your brain" commercials???

"This is your brain"

"This is your brain while being an unappreciative, whining, sophomoric dumb****"

I just love these little trips down memory lane. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

http://home.comcast.net/~mjmcmahon672/images/Sig_Small.gif

VW-IceFire
04-30-2004, 05:26 PM
Well I'm looking forward to all of the new Yak's, and the new FW190A-6 and the entirely new to the sim I-185 and the top of my list is of course the Spitfire IX but there's lots to like about this new patch.

I'm nearly as excited about the new planes as I am the new tanks! Those are exceptionally cool as well and totally not expected!

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a88.iap_Sergej
04-30-2004, 05:34 PM
Oleg your sig shows that my Browser is IE6. But this isn't true lol

CaptainGelo
05-01-2004, 02:24 PM
ok, this thing hadonly little shaking when fireing, was able to fire 4-5 shots from 37mm cannon without shaking and loosing aim....it was as fast as yak9u, but there is something about alirons and elevators beeing more heavyhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif(was main problem of the plane)....climb to 5000 m in 5.2 min.....it destroyed 28Axis planes and lost only 2.....and there was made about 280 of them....oh man,,,,,cant waithttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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plane is 2slow, guns are 2weak and DM suck?...Then click here (http://www.hmp16.com/hotstuff/downloads/Justin%20Timberlake%20-%20Cry%20Me%20A%20River.mp3) | Fear british army. (http://216.144.230.195/Videos/Medium_WMP8/British_Attack.wmv)

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CaptainGelo
05-01-2004, 02:30 PM
37mm cannon have 30 shots and 20 mm 120 each...

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plane is 2slow, guns are 2weak and DM suck?...Then click here (http://www.hmp16.com/hotstuff/downloads/Justin%20Timberlake%20-%20Cry%20Me%20A%20River.mp3) | Fear british army. (http://216.144.230.195/Videos/Medium_WMP8/British_Attack.wmv)

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Urist
05-01-2004, 02:37 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Spectre-63:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by TheKetamineKid:
wow...another yak...just what we wanted. The community has been looking forward to this since....oooohh never.


THIS IS WHY ITS FREE.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

OOoh...anyone else remember those "this is your brain" commercials???

"This is your brain"

"This is your brain while being an unappreciative, whining, sophomoric dumb****"

I just love these little trips down memory lane. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

http://home.comcast.net/~mjmcmahon672/images/Sig_Small.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

One of the guys at work here has a poster of that commercial, cept it goes...

"This is your brain" an egg
"This is your brain on drugs" egg getting fried in a pan
"This is your brain with a side order of bacon" some tasty bacon getting cooked with your "brain"...

I laugh everytime I see it...

Back on topic, I love the addition of more russian aircraft, they have been ignored for a while. And having an NS-23 on a fighter is making me drool...

(I remember that commercial got made fun of for years and is still a bit of a cliche..)

LuftLuver
05-01-2004, 04:39 PM
We're overlooking the new Yak that is going to be the real monster: Yak3P

3 x 20mm http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/blink.gif

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KGr.HH-Sunburst
05-01-2004, 04:48 PM
new yaks make new targets http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
cant wait to shoot them down

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TheGozr
05-01-2004, 05:53 PM
New Yaks Yeas! kick buttucks.. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

-GOZR
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vanelvis
05-01-2004, 08:10 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by TheKetamineKid:
wow...another yak...just what we wanted. The community has been looking forward to this since....oooohh never.


THIS IS WHY ITS FREE.

"Full real? How can you call it full real when you're still using auto-pitch on that 109...now get your coat and p**s off back to Crimson Skies!"<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


I am actually looking forward to the new Yak.

p1ngu666
05-01-2004, 09:19 PM
yep im lookin forward to it
fear they might be buried into uber section with the ki84c tho

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VW-IceFire
05-01-2004, 09:23 PM
They shouldn't be...the UT should probably perform like the 9U does and the new Yak 3 version will again perform like the current Yak 3 does. The difference will be firepower and weight (not sure what the additional weight of those guns will do to the FM).

Additionally, anyone who's flown a 9U will know that its susceptible to damage in the controls quite easily it turns well but in sustained turns other fighters can do better and its high speed performance is almost as bad as the 109's. So there are lots of things to be used against Yak-3's and Yak-9's that already work. There shouldn't be much difference. You still have to aim those cannons as well...

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CaptainGelo
05-02-2004, 02:04 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by VW-IceFire:
They shouldn't be...the UT should probably perform like the 9U does and the new Yak 3 version will again perform like the current Yak 3 does. The difference will be firepower and weight (not sure what the additional weight of those guns will do to the FM).

Additionally, anyone who's flown a 9U will know that its susceptible to damage in the controls quite easily it turns well but in sustained turns other fighters can do better and its high speed performance is almost as bad as the 109's. So there are lots of things to be used against Yak-3's and Yak-9's that already work. There shouldn't be much difference. You still have to aim those cannons as well...

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Yak3P got acualy 11 KG lighter cuz of new guns....

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Kurfurst__
05-02-2004, 04:46 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BuzzU:
A 9U with a big cannon. Sounds pretty deadly.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Kinda 109Kish... fast, manouverable, one-hit gun... thanks god it`s climbrate sux though. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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"We've got the finest tanks in the world. We just love to see the German Royal Tiger come up on the field".
- Lt. Gen. George S. Patton, Jr. Febuary 1945.

"One day a Tiger Royal got within 150 yards of my tanks and knocked me out. Five of our tanks opened up on him at ranges of 200 to 600 yards and got 5 or 6 hits on the front of the Tiger. They all just glanced off and the Tiger backed off and got away. If we had a tank like that Tiger, we would all be home today."
- Sgt. Clyde D. Brunson, US Army, Tank Commander, February 1945

CaptainGelo
05-02-2004, 05:10 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Kurfurst__:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BuzzU:
A 9U with a big cannon. Sounds pretty deadly.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Kinda 109Kish... fast, manouverable, one-hit gun... thanks god it`s climbrate sux though. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

http://www.x-plane.org/users/isegrim/fat-furred%20tigerB.jpg

"We've got the finest tanks in the world. We just love to see the German Royal Tiger come up on the field".
- Lt. Gen. George S. Patton, Jr. Febuary 1945.

"One day a Tiger Royal got within 150 yards of my tanks and knocked me out. Five of our tanks opened up on him at ranges of 200 to 600 yards and got 5 or 6 hits on the front of the Tiger. They all just glanced off and the Tiger backed off and got away. If we had a tank like that Tiger, we would all be home today."
- Sgt. Clyde D. Brunson, US Army, Tank Commander, February 1945<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

compared to BF all plane have bad climbrate, but have u tryed to fly yak9U, it climbs fast, for allide fighter, yak9ut is only bit slower......but climb isnt everything. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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Das_alte_leid
05-02-2004, 05:40 AM
Hey all.

Umm, pardon me, but please refrain from cluttering up a post with all that balls about sigs. Please.

Right, thank you for all the info all those that provided it. Unfortunately I am not so good at translation, so if someone would be so kind as to translate it, I would be indebted to you.

I am looking forward to all new aircraft. The more the merrier!

ANother question. For any that may know...

In the dev pic of the Mk IX(clipped) Spitfire, the .50cal ports are covered in a red 'cap'. On the extended wing version, they arent. Could this be explained by a new addition to the game? As in, they start covered, but when you fire, they come off?

Very exiting.

Thanks again.

Zwitter raus...

HH Quazi
05-02-2004, 06:29 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by WUAF_Badsight:
_TheKetamineKid speaks for HIMSELF ONLY_ http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/51.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

TheKetamineKid does have a point, and I didn't take his statement as a whine but more of a duh. I mean, we already have a sh*t pot full of Yaks to fly and there's not too many differences between them, as far as flight characteristics imo. And given the direction FB has been going lately, with the release of AEP and the other "free" updates and patches before AEP, I personally would like to have seen another plane, perhaps an Itailian model or really any other model, besides another Yak. But I will take what is given freely and be grateful. And I hope theketaminekid does also. S!

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CaptainGelo
05-02-2004, 06:34 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by QuaziMotto:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by WUAF_Badsight:
_TheKetamineKid speaks for HIMSELF ONLY_ http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/51.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

TheKetamineKid does have a point, and I didn't take his statement as a whine but more of a duh. I mean, we already have a sh*t pot full of Yaks to fly and there's not too many differences between them, as far as flight characteristics imo. And given the direction FB has been going lately, with the release of AEP and the other "free" updates and patches before AEP, I personally would like to have seen another plane, perhaps an Itailian model or really any other model, besides another Yak. But I will take what is given freely and be grateful. And I hope theketaminekid does also. S!

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[This message was edited by oleg86 on Sun May 02 2004 at 09:27 AM.]

HangerQueen
05-02-2004, 09:42 AM
Let's quit with the country-bashing please.

As for which version of the Yak 9UT - does it really matter? 1*23mm + 2*20mm or 1*37mm + 2*20mm both spell ouch in any language http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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Stalker58
05-02-2004, 11:40 AM
Whenever Yaks get bigger cannons they are actuallz LIGHTER, when LW planes get bigger guns, they are usually more heavy and it must be that way, be sure because gues who won the war?

Altitude, speed, manoeuvre and.... CRASH!

CaptainGelo
05-02-2004, 11:52 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Stalker58:
Whenever Yaks get bigger cannons they are actuallz LIGHTER, when LW planes get bigger guns, they are usually more heavy and it must be that way, be sure because gues who won the war?

Altitude, speed, manoeuvre and.... CRASH!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

well, thats how it is....u got a problem with it?

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Stalker58
05-02-2004, 12:06 PM
I have ZERO problems to fly plans with red stars on them, sometimes when tired I fly them a lot.After all it's still only game http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Altitude, speed, manoeuvre and.... CRASH!

clint-ruin
05-02-2004, 12:08 PM
The N23/B20/N37 [not NS] were probably the best weapons in their class for a very very long time.

You will find it's a general trend that the soviet planes got lighter in terms of bare airframe weight as the war went on and relied much more on aerodynamic improvements and better material usage. Opposite approach to sticking more and more weight on and then relying on more powerful engines or more boost to make up the difference.

LaGG 3 series 1 was over 300kg heavier than LaGG 3 66.

Yak-3 was ~2700kg, developed from Yak-1 @ 2900kg

La5 @ ~3300 vs La7 @ ~3250.

Basically goes on and on as such, the only time you see loaded weights increasing is when more fuel tanks are put in.

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CaptainGelo
05-02-2004, 12:09 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Stalker58:
I have ZERO problems to fly plans with red stars on them, sometimes when tired I fly them a lot.After all it's still only game http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Altitude, speed, manoeuvre and.... CRASH!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

good http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
why only when tired?

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plane is 2slow, guns are 2weak and DM suck?...Then click here (http://www.hmp16.com/hotstuff/downloads/Justin%20Timberlake%20-%20Cry%20Me%20A%20River.mp3) | Fear british army. (http://216.144.230.195/Videos/Medium_WMP8/British_Attack.wmv)

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