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fluke39
10-21-2003, 03:17 PM
for a long time on and off i have made model aircraft - usually in 1/72 scale, i made alot when i was quite young and it cooled off a bit but i started up again about 3 years ago.

since i have decided to try and make them as good "display pieces", i have moved to 1/48 scale, but before i painted any 1/48 i thought i'd buy one or two 1/72 scale to practice my painting on.

so i bought a airfix 109E which i thought would make a good counterpart to a spitfire mk1 i have in 1/72

upon opening the box i was sorely disppointed, it is impossible to line up the wings tailplane and rudder to the appropriate angles, many of the parts dont line up right, the panel lines were all raised - as opposed to etched out (how panel lines should be), the canopy doesnt at all fit onto the fuselage and the cockpit detail extended to a dashboard with a few circles on it.

Oh well i thought this is why i have decided to use 1/48 instead of 1/72 scale. However today i had a few pounds spare - so i bought a revel 1/72 P47D to accompany an old 109-G. this also surprised me but not in the same way - not only does the aircraft have etched panel lines- the detail is fantastic - - the canopy is split so you can have it in open position (something i have never seen in 1/72 scale) the cockpit has a detailed and accurate dashboard, rudder pedals and joystick. and also there are around 120 decals supplied - and whats more it fits together perfectly and is 50p cheaper than the airfix models at 3.50 !!.

i will never buy another airfix in my life and i suggest no-one else does either!

i suspect that the revel model i bought is probably a recent "remould" or whatever it is called - which is a good move by revel as they have now gone up in my estimation from "toy's that you put together" - to serious scale models
as airfix seem to have spent their time and money on repackaging the same old shyte - they stay as "toys you can build " in my estimation.

although i think i will mainly be buying tamiya from now on i think revel will get a look in whenever i fancy a good model but don't have the money for a tamiya or equivalent
can anyone else reccomend any quality, or cheap brands - or name ony other ones to avoid?

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fluke39
10-21-2003, 03:17 PM
for a long time on and off i have made model aircraft - usually in 1/72 scale, i made alot when i was quite young and it cooled off a bit but i started up again about 3 years ago.

since i have decided to try and make them as good "display pieces", i have moved to 1/48 scale, but before i painted any 1/48 i thought i'd buy one or two 1/72 scale to practice my painting on.

so i bought a airfix 109E which i thought would make a good counterpart to a spitfire mk1 i have in 1/72

upon opening the box i was sorely disppointed, it is impossible to line up the wings tailplane and rudder to the appropriate angles, many of the parts dont line up right, the panel lines were all raised - as opposed to etched out (how panel lines should be), the canopy doesnt at all fit onto the fuselage and the cockpit detail extended to a dashboard with a few circles on it.

Oh well i thought this is why i have decided to use 1/48 instead of 1/72 scale. However today i had a few pounds spare - so i bought a revel 1/72 P47D to accompany an old 109-G. this also surprised me but not in the same way - not only does the aircraft have etched panel lines- the detail is fantastic - - the canopy is split so you can have it in open position (something i have never seen in 1/72 scale) the cockpit has a detailed and accurate dashboard, rudder pedals and joystick. and also there are around 120 decals supplied - and whats more it fits together perfectly and is 50p cheaper than the airfix models at 3.50 !!.

i will never buy another airfix in my life and i suggest no-one else does either!

i suspect that the revel model i bought is probably a recent "remould" or whatever it is called - which is a good move by revel as they have now gone up in my estimation from "toy's that you put together" - to serious scale models
as airfix seem to have spent their time and money on repackaging the same old shyte - they stay as "toys you can build " in my estimation.

although i think i will mainly be buying tamiya from now on i think revel will get a look in whenever i fancy a good model but don't have the money for a tamiya or equivalent
can anyone else reccomend any quality, or cheap brands - or name ony other ones to avoid?

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XyZspineZyX
10-21-2003, 03:29 PM
From my experience revel are indeed excellent, especially for the price. There are an awful lot of lot of airfix kits - some are good, some are OK, some are dreadful. I wouldn't condemn the whole brand out of hand. A quick google can produce some very useful reviews.

XyZspineZyX
10-21-2003, 03:50 PM
Strangely, I have just started reading a book I got for Xmas last year "AIRFIX - Celebrating 50 years of the greatest kits in the world" by Arthur Ward. It's very nostalgic for me as I started building them about 40 years ago, and the box art brings back some good memories. I have to admit though, that I dont think they ever were "the greatest kits in the world" for all the reasons you have cited. That Spitfire kit was probably first produced back in the '50's and has never been updated. It's not fair to judge it by todays standards. I think the current owners of the company treat these old 1/72 series kits as "toys" that young newcomers to the hobby can cut their teeth on before they move on to serious stuff in 1/48 scale. It's not worth the huge investment in new moulds when so many more "serious" kit makers (Hasegawa, Tamiya) make Spitfire kits for the "adult" modeller. As mikeyg007 says, it's a good idea to find a review of a kit before buying.

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XyZspineZyX
10-21-2003, 03:52 PM
I model in 1/72 because of the great variety available. In this scale I would check out Hasegawa and Fujimi. Not cheap but very good models. Italeri has some very good kits as well.

XyZspineZyX
10-21-2003, 05:23 PM
tamiya does a 109e in72nd. I would suggest that one personaly.
S!

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XyZspineZyX
10-21-2003, 06:27 PM
I stopped building Arfix plastic kits.Found to many were very poor fitting. Revell are much better quality.
I have now moved onto balsa kits with tissue covering. the good thing with balsa ones is you can modify to different variations of the aircraft quite easily. They are a lot of work but well worth the effort & cheap to /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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fluke39
10-21-2003, 07:31 PM
yes - i suppose is is kind of unfair to judge them by todays standards given the vast extent of the range - built up over time, it would take an awful lot of time to remould all the kits. Also it is a fair point about airfix aiming at a younger market - however if this is the case you would hope that the would reduce their price accordingly. perhaps one of the better things about airfix is the range of different models - but all too often when you find a good "obscure" model it is gone before you could read a review on it and come back to the shop - what would be useful would be if they printed the date of moulding on the box.(doubt they would though)



I_Jg3_BARKHORN wrote:
- tamiya does a 109e in72nd. I would suggest that one
- personaly.
- S!
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hmm - i didn't know tamiya did 1/72 scale - never ever seen any! - thanks for the heads up /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

whilst i was in the shop today i was comparing a tamiya P51 (21.99) against the equivalent revell one (9.99) (both 1/48)- and was again quite impressed by revell - it seemed to have the same amount of detail but in different places - eg the tamiya has seperate flaps that can be put in the "down" position - wheras the revell kit doesn't - but does have little panels you can fold up on the wings to reveal the .50's and ammo belts! although i would probably guess the tamiya would be more precise and fit together better - the revell one looked a very tempting buy indeed!

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