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frior-one
03-16-2004, 01:37 AM
hi, at last i have found a campaign i can commit to....1 problem, navigation. i fly in cockpit (a recent convert and loving it) but my screen is set to 600x800 for performance issues. i can not read the compas as the stick gets in the way most/all of the time. can i turn the speed bar on (covers ears to protect from screams!!!) i found the isle of wight more by luck than judement! or any pointers please.

frior-one
03-16-2004, 01:37 AM
hi, at last i have found a campaign i can commit to....1 problem, navigation. i fly in cockpit (a recent convert and loving it) but my screen is set to 600x800 for performance issues. i can not read the compas as the stick gets in the way most/all of the time. can i turn the speed bar on (covers ears to protect from screams!!!) i found the isle of wight more by luck than judement! or any pointers please.

AWL_Spinner
03-16-2004, 03:10 AM
A shame you can't read the compass at that resolution. Regarding the stick I didn't have any problems with that obscuring my compass during that campaign, as far as I recall. There's the flat dial and also the gyro compass just above it so you've two locations to spot your heading.

Regarding the speedbar, you can only turn this on/off with all the other settings at the START of a campaign. However, I recall seeing somewhere a little utility to enable you to change difficulty settings midway through, someone else may be able to help there.

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Extreme_One
03-16-2004, 04:50 AM
You can assign a key in the control settings to allow the speedbar to be toggled on and off.

As for your question...
Why not?

As far as I'm concerned my campaigns are for everyone. If you want to fly with speedbar on and map icons on and ingame icons on - then you go ahead and enjoy it.
I reckon that disabling instant success off is absolutely fine too BTW.

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michapma
03-16-2004, 05:11 AM
Hmm, Spinner I don't recall being able to see the reading of the compass on the floor through the stick. I'm also not aware of the second compass. You can see the compass of course, but only the sides of it. This is useful insofar that you can deduce what the heading should approximately be, but it's not an instant reading...

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AWL_Spinner
03-16-2004, 05:26 AM
Michapma, Are you looking with a snap-view or with a panning option? I'm using TrackIR and have no problem seeing the compass (either one). May post a screenie later if you're interested.

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Huxley_S
03-16-2004, 05:41 AM
Spinner... I'm interested!

Please post your screenie because I played one of these Hurri missions last night at full switch (it was my favourite offline experience so far!) but I just couldn't see that compass properly - and I didn't know there was a second one.

I downloaded the software that gives you mouse view using the hat switch last night but haven't had time to try it out for real yet. I reckon this will help.

The Hurri is a great plane for cockpit play - it has a big spacious cockpit, much nicer than the 109s that I usually fly which can be pretty claustrophobic.

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AWL_Spinner
03-16-2004, 05:48 AM
Ok Huxley_S, I'll take some screenies when I get home! I'm at work at present but from memory you need to be looking right down into the cockpit.

Cheers, Spinner

Edit : I'll post a track file too.

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[This message was edited by AWL_Spinner on Tue March 16 2004 at 04:59 AM.]

frior-one
03-16-2004, 06:12 AM
thanks for the replies chaps but i must be doing something wrong.....i fly in cockpit using a 6 point "mouse button" on top of the stick for views. when i look down to the compas the stick is smack in the middle of the view. i can sometimes just see the heading through the "d" of the yolk but that is hit and miss depending on my flight attribute. the other reading is totally obscured.
where can i change the difficulty settings, they all come up with the locking bar in place?
regards

AWL_Spinner
03-16-2004, 06:18 AM
frior-one, have you tried looking round the cockpit with the mouse? If you look toward the floor, I'm sure you'll be able to see your heading on the compass. I don't think the snap-views go far enough. I'll investigate later.

I was wrong earlier about the settings thing it seems, according to Extreme_One the speedbar can be toggled on or off with a key binding, you should be able to access this through the key settings menu. If so then it's independant of your difficulty choices.

Cheers, Spinner

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Huxley_S
03-16-2004, 06:20 AM
Once you've started a campaign you can't edit the difficulty settings... (there may be a 3rd party bit of software that allows you to do it perhaps)... but essentially if you want to change the switches you have to start over from the beginning of the campaign.

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frior-one
03-16-2004, 06:26 AM
ok thanks for that. good job i've only flown 2 missions then. back to the start..now off to isle of wight again..

Tully__
03-16-2004, 07:57 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by AWL_Spinner:
I was wrong earlier about the settings thing it seems, according to Extreme_One the speedbar can be toggled on or off with a key binding, you should be able to access this through the key settings menu. If so then it's independant of your difficulty choices.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

The toggle only works if the difficulty setting is set to allow speed bar. If it's off in the difficulty settings, it's off period.

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bird_brain
03-16-2004, 09:33 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by frior-one:
hi, at last i have found a campaign i can commit to....1 problem, navigation. i fly in cockpit (a recent convert and loving it) but my screen is set to 600x800 for performance issues. i can not read the compas as the stick gets in the way most/all of the time.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


http://hstrial-jyarbrough.homestead.com/Hurri_ckpit.jpg

If you move the stick back slightly, you can see the bearing on the compass ( marked in red)
You can also steer by the gyro compass ( marked in green) http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif
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Huxley_S
03-16-2004, 10:40 AM
Do you work it all out on paper at the mission briefing screen then?

e.g. 250kph - 310 degrees for 3 minutes 20 seconds, 250kph - 260 degrees for 6 minutes 45 seconds etc etc

or do you fly by using ground landmarks, following roads and rivers etc?

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Jazz-Man
03-16-2004, 11:37 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Huxley_S:
Do you work it all out on paper at the mission briefing screen then?

e.g. 250kph - 310 degrees for 3 minutes 20 seconds, 250kph - 260 degrees for 6 minutes 45 seconds etc etc

or do you fly by using ground landmarks, following roads and rivers etc?

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Huxley_S
03-16-2004, 03:49 PM
Hey, I sussed out how to view the compass in the Hurricaine.

You have to press Shift & F1 to move your head forward.

Observe, without pressing Shift & F1
http://www.onemorewild.org/huxley/images/hurrinof1.jpg

But when you press Shift & F1, hey presto
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AWL_Spinner
03-16-2004, 04:25 PM
Hey Huxley, et al., glad you've found the compass. I've no idea what the Shift-F1 does for you in your views but in my unadulterated normal FOV view I get the following (with and without gunsight zoom).

I can see both a) the gyro compass over the control column and b) the centre of the compass dial through the control column. No problem navigating at all.

Cheers, Spinner.

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Tully__
03-16-2004, 09:49 PM
Shift-F1 changes your pilot from a relaxed sit back and cruise seating position to a hunched over the gunsight seating postion. In most allied aircraft it's not that noticeable as the movement is all fore/aft (though it does allow you to look past some of the cockpit bars when looking out the side of the cockpit).

In German aircraft the gunsight is almost useless if you don't use it.

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frior-one
03-17-2004, 01:54 AM
thanks for the input gentlmen.
awl_spinner - i notice that you are climbing when this picture was taken, i can see the detils if i pull the stick back but in normal level flight the two dials are totally obscured.
i will try the ****-f1 combo tonight.
S!

AWL_Spinner
03-17-2004, 03:12 AM
Hi frior-one,

The climb wasn't intentional in that shot, I was a little drunk last night so it was a rushed effort! And the stick was centered, the aircraft was just in a nose-up climb attitude.

Trust me, even with the stick slightly forward the view is much the same. I suspect your problem will be solved by the Shift-F1 trick as observed by Huxley. I'd not considered this as I've only ever used it in German aircraft, like Tully describes it rarely has much of an effect in allied cockpits.

In the second gunsight-view shot of mine you will see the nose is almost on the horizon, and the compass is still clearly visible (although the stick is centered in both shots).

Also, regardless of the position of the stick, the gyro-compass just above the stick in both shots is ALWAYS visible in this view.

Cheers,

Spinner

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