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XyZspineZyX
09-15-2003, 02:09 PM
Hey guys,

Can someone tell me, or point me in the direction of some tips on navigating in FB? Vector 020 etc for landing leaves me confused.. I look at my instruments etc and think "where the hell do I read vector 020 from!?!".

It doesn't make for easy landings on a really foggy day! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif
thanks chaps.

XyZspineZyX
09-15-2003, 02:09 PM
Hey guys,

Can someone tell me, or point me in the direction of some tips on navigating in FB? Vector 020 etc for landing leaves me confused.. I look at my instruments etc and think "where the hell do I read vector 020 from!?!".

It doesn't make for easy landings on a really foggy day! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif
thanks chaps.

XyZspineZyX
09-15-2003, 02:52 PM
compassdirection, thus 020 must be NNE

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XyZspineZyX
09-15-2003, 10:49 PM
North is 0
East is 90
South is 180
West is 270

......... I think lol, plz tell me if I am wrong, I never look at the compase ever, I look at the water on the maps and navigate that way if need be.

Message Edited on 09/15/0302:50PM by EyesBlack

XyZspineZyX
09-16-2003, 11:24 AM
What do u do when it's pitchblack? /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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XyZspineZyX
09-16-2003, 11:44 AM
When it's pitch black?

Pray your not flying a P-40! lol
For some reason my compass doesn't work.

XyZspineZyX
09-16-2003, 03:05 PM
I've always wondered how, on the aircraft (mostly German) that have some type of waypoint indicator, do those indicators work? How can you have an instrument that points toward a waypoint in 1938-1945 (i.e. no GPS or VOR stations, I believe)? If a target is well behind enemy lines, which they almost always are, what kind of system could you use to have something on your dashboard point at it? Also, while I'm on the topic (sorta), why can I not get that pointer to cycle to the next waypoint if I'm the only aircraft in the flight? I can order my flight (if there's at least a wingman) to go to next waypoint, in which case the pointer will reflect that, but if I'm by myself, no dice. Any body out there wanna help me out on either of these?? Thanks in advance.



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XyZspineZyX
09-16-2003, 06:26 PM
There's the regular compass on the aircraft and the magnetic compass,(I think that's the name) that can be adjusted to point to a particular vector, degree setting, so if you are flying north and your vector was set for say 090 then the magnetic compass would be pointing east, that's the compass that moves all over the place when you fly, it's the bigger compass in the BF-109. In the Heinkel bombers they had a triangulation system with radio signals that came from three points in France all pointing to a particular area of say Britian, when they reached that point the tone changed and they were over target, something like that.

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XyZspineZyX
09-16-2003, 08:19 PM
I use sun, clock, map in FB when I can't see the compass.
If time is 1200, the sun is at south.. and 1600, at southwest etc.

In long bomber flight with no beacon aid and bad weather, they used trigonometry with map, compass, etc.

That's why rendezvous sometimes failed between bomber and fighter group.

One shouldn't call himself an ace if he can't find his way without "map icon + minimap path + speedbar"(worst trio in FB /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif ) . He's just a decent gamer at most.

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XyZspineZyX
09-16-2003, 10:09 PM
Aardvark892 wrote:
- I've always wondered how, on the aircraft (mostly
- German) that have some type of waypoint indicator,
- do those indicators work? How can you have an
- instrument that points toward a waypoint in
- 1938-1945 (i.e. no GPS or VOR stations, I believe)?
- If a target is well behind enemy lines, which they
- almost always are, what kind of system could you use
- to have something on your dashboard point at it?

This is a cheat, really - in effect the program 'invents' a radio beacon that coincides with your waypoint. As you say, it wouldn't have been so easy in real life.


- Also, while I'm on the topic (sorta), why can I not
- get that pointer to cycle to the next waypoint if
- I'm the only aircraft in the flight? I can order my
- flight (if there's at least a wingman) to go to next
- waypoint, in which case the pointer will reflect
- that, but if I'm by myself, no dice. Any body out
- there wanna help me out on either of these?? Thanks
- in advance.
Sorry, can't help there, beyond saying I've found it pretty confusing myself

XyZspineZyX
09-17-2003, 02:12 AM
I've been flying some DCG missions I made up around Smolensk and eliminated all the goodies I'm use to like the icons and stuff. The map I have I downloaded and printed from Mudmovers and have been using it and fly now by land marks and compass directions, map comes with compass orientation. It's not so hard after all, if you fly the Heinkel and camp out in the nose cone you can get a good idea where you are by following rivers and roads, lot of roads lead to big towns, plus I've been messing around with TAS and with the grids on the map and knowing the distances between waypoints I mark I was surprised that the time I calculated to be over a specific area was bang on, the maps are to scale. Just go read up on basic navigational techniques and try that way for the hell of it. Oh by the way, No exterior views, No speedbar, No icons, No minimap, keep it as real as possible.

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