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XyZspineZyX
07-11-2003, 08:42 PM
how come the bombsight is so inaccurate anyone figure it out

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XyZspineZyX
07-11-2003, 08:42 PM
how come the bombsight is so inaccurate anyone figure it out

geuss whos back......... watch it Sangsta

XyZspineZyX
07-11-2003, 09:19 PM
Which one? The one on the He-111 works fine for me. With a bit of practice I can put the bombs right on target.

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XyZspineZyX
07-11-2003, 10:13 PM
I wonder why people feel the need to show their incompetence in this forum.

nikko

XyZspineZyX
07-12-2003, 12:08 AM
try it in the He 111 online, it does'nt works fine

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Message Edited on 07/12/0301:09AM by BlackRookie

XyZspineZyX
07-12-2003, 02:38 AM
He-111 works online as long as the outside view is enabled, I believe.

At any rate, that's not a bombsight problem, is it? I can't even figure out what the person's complaining about.



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XyZspineZyX
07-12-2003, 03:29 AM
It's not a bombsite problem?

I think there might very well be a problme sir.

If there is not a problem, then we would appreciate an answer/solution as to why it only works upredictably.

If it is not a problem, then someone MUST have the answer as to what we are doing wrong!

Why is it that us (whiners) that are having trouble, are not complaining about the bombsite in offline missions, that we have no problem bombing our targets, but have trouble getting it to work ONLINE?

So do not make posts in this thread about proper bombsite alignment procedures... because we obviously know them, if we are hitting targets OFFLINE.

I have tried many game difficulty settings from full real to full easy, even thinking it may have something to do with padlock being enabled. I imagine it must use similar coding, to lock onto a specific object/area.

I also considered, will the bombsite only lock onto legitimate in game targets? Not the scenery objects placed in by mission builder or stock city scenery, but tossed that theory, when I start bombing trees and bare ground in single player mode.

ALL I WANT IS A COUPLE ANSWERS FROM THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM.

Q. IS THERE A PROBLEM WITH THE HE111 BOMBSITE WHEN PLAYING ONLINE?

Q. IS THERE A WAY TO AVOID THIS PROBLEM, BECAUSE ONE NIGHT I WAS BOMBING AWAY ONLINE THREE SUCESSIVE RUNS HITTING THE TARGET, WHILE ANOTHER PLAYER IN GAME COULD NOT GET A RELEASE. (which make me think it is not a game setting issue, but a aircraft control/key command thing).

Q. IF THERE TRUELY IS A PROBLEM, AND THERE IS NO SOLUTION, WILL IT BE ADDRESSED IN THE PATCH. Because if not, I am going to need to start working on a bombadier utility for calculating angles for high altitude bombing of targets not at sea level.)

Thanks in advance for your consideration.

XyZspineZyX
07-12-2003, 05:34 AM
Why are you addressing yourself to me? Do I look like I'm Oleg, or something?

I'm just sharing my experience - I've played both offline and online, and I've been able to put bombs on target when the external view is enabled.

What the hell is your problem?



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XyZspineZyX
07-12-2003, 07:19 AM
Err ah.. This is Oleg Ready Room...

Should each person who wants to address the bombsite issue start his own thread?

Is this your private thread? Why assume this reply is only addressed to you?

My problem is the same problem as many others. The bombsite does not seem to be functioning properly online.

It just so happens that one of your responses was
"He-111 works online as long as the outside view is enabled, I believe."

With you wrapping that staement up with "I Believe", which is not exactly a definite statement.

If you are not having a problem, stay out of the conversation, as you are not offering any solution, other than to say, it works fine for me, "I Believe!"

As stated in my previous reply, and on the UBI board by many people, we have tried many game settings from All real to easy, and it does not solve the problem.

I have no personal grudge towards you, it is just irritating to have people come in and just assume that all is well and we are just doing something wrong.

Sorry, if I rubbed you the wrong way... I would just like what I come to this board for, assistance, and answers.

Not an arguement....

XyZspineZyX
07-12-2003, 09:24 AM
hm..well it's true the He111 bombsight does not work well online, but I don't think that's what the person wanted to say. So I wonder why post it here?

Nikko

XyZspineZyX
07-12-2003, 12:27 PM
OK - Get this:

Somebody posted soemthing about a BOMSIGHT ??????

And I decided to share my experience. Now you come in and have hysterics about it all over me.

It's not my problem if you don't understand the language.

You also don't seem to realize how this works - anybody can post their experiences here, OK? And if their experience indicates IT WORKS, maybe that should be a clue that the problem isn't in the game, but in your system, or in the online settings.

So get irritated with somebody else - you don't own this place.





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XyZspineZyX
07-12-2003, 06:14 PM
Ok Icarus, I think this is getting out of hand, you are right that Everyone has the right to post here..

If you can truely hit the target EVERYTIME in and ONLINE game, then I invite you to prove it to me online sometime...

and then you can be of some assistance, gather your in game host settings, and procedures, so that we can see why you are able to do this but others are not.

Note that I never said that the bombsite did not work at all, I am just backing up others claims that there is a problem with it online.

I posted my questions/comment in this thread, because it is better than starting another thread about the same subject. Else we have 15 bombsite thread, somewhat like what we see going on about the Fw190 cockpit.. Having mutliple thread about the same subject, is counter productive.

So PEACE Icarus... Please just let us people who are not getting online releases, know what your magical settings are, so we can have fun too..

BTW...

Do not say it is enabling external views.. Already tried that.

Also don't bother with making sure that the altitude and airspeed are correctly dialed in.. Already did that too..

Also don't suggest avoiding last minute adjustments, my site is on target miles out... and I do not press Bombsite automation, until the site is under 20 degrees..

Also don't suggest Level Stabilizer, because that is on as well..

What am I doing wrong?

XyZspineZyX
07-12-2003, 11:30 PM
This has been a very well-known problem since FB came out, that the bombsight does not release automatically reliably online. Some times it works, some times it doesn't, but there definitely is a bug there. That's not just my opinion, but a quick search in the archives will reveal that You can still release manually when the bug occurs. None of Oleg's recent posts address whether he has fixed this bug in the patch, so it's anyone's guess when it will be corrected.



Message Edited on 07/13/0308:11PM by xenios

XyZspineZyX
07-13-2003, 05:01 AM
S! Xenios

Thank You!

Some reasonable answer, so I do not feel like I am going crazy here..

When I started experiencing this problem, I immediately began searching the place I have always receive Help/Advice, the UBI board.

Unfortunately, it start to look like some of the other postings on the board, going around and around, with someone coming in and try to tell us it is just our incompitence...

In your post you replied:

"....the bombsight does not release automatically reliably online when external views are enabled."

Is this a typo, because I believe the other posting said that it is a problem when external views are NOT enabled?
I seemed to have experience this problem whether they external views are enabled or not..

I have tried from the most relistic settings to the easiest settings, and to no avail.

I was thinking it was a local in game key command missing, or process not performed. As one night online it was working for me, while not for another player.But then the next day, in the same mission, with the same host settings, I was not able to get an automatic release once, while another was able to get one or two, but nothing consistent.

I just started flying the He111 seriously, so had to do a big search on the board to find an answer, but never came up with a solution.

Now that I know there is nothing I can do to deal with this issue, I need to figure out how to reliable hit targets from above 3000 meters manually. Does ANYONE know of a good resource for calculating the variable we need to figure out the angle of site, when flying at a certain altitude and airspeed.. I mean before auto bombsites, this must have been necessary for the bombadeir to calculate.

Thanks

XyZspineZyX
07-14-2003, 02:10 AM
I use the autolevel to level out the bomber during a bombrun--you have to assign a key to this function. If you are asking about how to compute your True Airspeed, you can print out a TAS chart from the PDF files on one of the game disks. With the chart you just line up your indicated airspeed with your alt. and you have your TAS to enter into the bombsight. The He111 can be very accurate even at high alt. when everything goes right. Too bad it's such easy prey.

Flying a Ju88, Pe2, Pe8, or any U.S. bomber would be great in FB. A flyable Ju88 is in the works of course, and I believe these could level bomb or divebomb.I'm not sure what kind of bombsights the Soviet bombers used, hopefully something more advanced than that used in the TB3.

XyZspineZyX
07-14-2003, 03:19 AM
"Level Stabilizer" and I am familiar with it..

Unfortunately I only derive enjoyment in using what limited gaming/flytime I have ONLINE, so without reliable release of bombs using bombsite automation, I need to find a better way.

XyZspineZyX
07-14-2003, 09:17 AM
You should defintly watch the training video's for the bombers. because I think your question has something to do with the TAS/IAS issue.

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XyZspineZyX
07-14-2003, 01:20 PM
Platypus_1.JaVA wrote:
- You should defintly watch the training video's for
- the bombers. because I think your question has
- something to do with the TAS/IAS issue.

The video says I have to wait 40sec max for the sights to appear. Online I experieced multiple times that it doesn't even appear after 2-3 minutes. WTF? Too fast?? Most times it came as I slowed down... Bombing @5000 is impossible online. Offline it comes. Then that no-autorelease thing.

Other than that, I found the engine limits too bad for bombing. @5000 I can't see any targets. I do a rough approach and then I've no time for coorections because as I can barely estimate the target's position, I already have hte sight down @30-40?! = Time to drop the load. Objects SHOULD be visible at higher ranges. Especially ships are very bad. They pop up @ some 500-1000m (smaller ones). If you do something here, pls don't change the vis range of trees, normal houses etc, but targets, factories etc.


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