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sureshot324
07-26-2004, 06:17 PM
I know there are a lot of joystick threads, but i couldn't find one specificaly for joysticks with built in throttles. I'm not really that hardcore into flight sims and want to use it for other things too, like driving games and a joystick with a seperate throttle just takes up too much space. Any recommendations?

sureshot324
07-26-2004, 06:17 PM
I know there are a lot of joystick threads, but i couldn't find one specificaly for joysticks with built in throttles. I'm not really that hardcore into flight sims and want to use it for other things too, like driving games and a joystick with a seperate throttle just takes up too much space. Any recommendations?

Korolov
07-26-2004, 06:22 PM
The Thrustmaster Top Gun Fox 2 Pro series are a good buy for that - twisty stick, built in throttle, plus a few buttons and a hat switch. Definately a good buy if you can't afford a more serious setup.

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TgD Thunderbolt56
07-26-2004, 07:58 PM
Most joysticks have some kind of throttle control on board. Even if it's just a simple wheel. My biggest concern for you would be your rudder control. if you don't want the added cost (and footprint) of another controller, you may not want to add rudder pedals thus you're limited to a "twisty" stick. The best one out there is/was the Microsoft series. Some had forcefeedback and some didn't. A simple Microsoft Sidewinder stick may be the best answer for you if you can still find one and they're fairly cheap comparitively (around $30-40 USD.)

Another possibility might be the Saitek Evo (twisty with an on-board throttle control)

Lastly, if size is only an issue on your desktop, you may consider something from CH Products ( http://www.chproducts.com ) Their stuff is top-notch. Rugged, versatile and comfortable, but they don't offer twist-rudder or force-feedback...yet and they're a little more pricey. You would still be left with the keyboard for rudder control *ick* without some pedals though.

Good luck,

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Snuffy Smith
07-26-2004, 10:20 PM
The MS Sidewinder that I had I loved, but when I got a new rig, I neglected to ask about that; and, I found that it would only take USB connections, and I never found a satisfactory adapter for it. If you have a rig with a 9-pin game plug then definitely the MS Sidewinder is the way to go. Do not get force feedback--it only adds unnecessary complexity. Since, I can't use my favorite Sidewinder anymore, I got a new Thrustmaster Topgun Afterburner II, which works fine. I'm afraid I don't have the room for petals--the twist rudder is the next best thing.

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Red_Russian13
07-26-2004, 11:08 PM
I loved my MS Sidewinder, but alas, she died a while back.

I bought a Logitech Extreme 3D Pro, and while it took me some getting used to, I really like it now. It's got the second button (cannon usually) right where your thumb naturally lies while on the stick. I like that a lot. It's a twisty stick as well, with four buttons around the hat. It costs around $40. And it's stable on the desk...

Hope this helps...I'm sure you'll find numerous different sticks recommended here...I'd try it out first if you can, just for the ergonomics.

Red Russian

arcadeace
07-27-2004, 01:21 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Korolov:
The Thrustmaster Top Gun Fox 2 Pro series are a good buy for that - twisty stick, built in throttle, plus a few buttons and a hat switch. Definately a good buy if you can't afford a more serious setup.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

A lot of people don't know about these but they are good. I have the Afterburner II with seperate throttle but its stick base is the same, without the built in functions. They're built good and the base has weight. Also, its easy to put some washers in the adjustable spring cylinder to get any tension desired. I can make the stick tension very stiff to very easy.

WOLFMondo
07-27-2004, 02:49 AM
Im very pleased with my Saitek Cyborg EVO.

http://www.saitek.com/uk/prod/cyborg_evo.htm

Looks the best too.http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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Raiden48
07-27-2004, 02:54 AM
I bought a Thrustmaster top gun 2 shock and it broke in 24 hours, besides its got bad buttons and an unpractical slider

bazzaah2
07-27-2004, 02:59 AM
pedals would be great for your driving games too.

My CH fighterstick has been great - still going strong, though ff would be nice.

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lil_labbit
07-27-2004, 05:05 AM
Saitek Cyborg evo here too http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif very good stick for the money http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

+ has throttle and rudder (twist stick).
+ 12 triggers (2 can be used as shift).
+ 8-way hat switch (can be put into mouse mode).
+ adjustable in size and left/right hand use.

- looses calibration under windows XP restart
easily handeled by moving stick through all extremes before take-off (quick recalibration).

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KSS_Shrike_UK
07-27-2004, 06:47 AM
Logitek Wingman Strike Force 3D
2 pov hats, strong FF, mousewheel, loadsa buttons, programmable, stable drivers, had a good year of use out of it, no probs, but they are really rare to find as logitek i think must have only made them for 6 months. If you can find one grab it, my second fave to my x45.

IKG26Redcoat
07-27-2004, 11:17 AM
I got a Logitech Wingman Force 3D. its got pov, four buttons on top, throttle and twist rudder control with another two buttons on the base. At first, I hated it. It sat in a box for the first three months because it was so damn flighty, it was impossible to fly with. I tried allsorts, dialing sensitivity up and down, shouting at it, got a priest to exorcise it, but it was ****e. Then one of my squadron mates give me some settings which transformed it over night. Now I wouldnt want to go back to no ffb, and never having owned the microsoft one,( i was lookin at buyin it once, but i put it back on the shelf so I could go the pub with the money instead!I had it in my hands lol! *******) I can only say that for perfomance, its ok. The lack of a top thumb posit cannon button is a pain, but i got it set up my own way now and am used to it. Also my hands are too big for the damn thing , and i have to fly with my hand much lower on the stick to avoid hitting the forward trigger button. But all said and done, Id rather have it than nothing. If anyone else has it, and the same probs, pager me in HL and I'll page you those settings.
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71RAF_Wildman
07-27-2004, 11:41 AM
id like to find a new stick.. my x45 is gettin kinda old... might get another 45 if i cant find another stick with as many buttons this thing has...never have to touch the keyboard..got the whole planes controls at my fingertips http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/784.gif

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Korolov
07-27-2004, 01:21 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Raiden48:
I bought a Thrustmaster top gun 2 shock and it broke in 24 hours, besides its got bad buttons and an unpractical slider<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

And my Afterburner II lasted damn near 3 years. Hell, still using the throttle for it. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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F16_Neo
07-27-2004, 01:45 PM
I'm happy with my EVO, best one so far.

Whatever you do stay away from logitech sticks - or be unhappy and frustrated.

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F0_Dark_P
07-28-2004, 03:22 PM
WORD! Logitech suck, i whent for a X45 and it is realy good, and btw for you that have it, i removed de spring so it dont center, but the precision is greatly improved after that

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